Jesus is not coming back. He already did in 70 A.D.
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It happened in the spiritual realm. It is not physical bodies and people would not have seen it on earth. It is a spiritual resurrection. Mankind no longer being separated from God because of sin. When Jesus came back Hades was opened and the dead were raised and entered heaven. Since 70 A.D. everyone who dies immediately goes to heaven. There is no waiting in Hades.
Rev 14: 13 says "blessed are those who die in the Lord from this time forward that they may rest and their works follow them". What happens immediately after that verse? One like the Son of Man puts in the sickle and harvests the earth. The resurrection. No more separation from God.
Rev 14: 13 says "blessed are those who die in the Lord from this time forward that they may rest and their works follow them". What happens immediately after that verse? One like the Son of Man puts in the sickle and harvests the earth. The resurrection. No more separation from God.
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The yr 538AD is interesting to me. During this time period (536 AD) there was an extreme weather event / atmospheric dust event dimming the sun and causing massive crop failures. This extreme event was then followed by the Justinian Plague in 541AD.
I can't help but see these two events as fulfillment of the fifth bowl of wrath (Rev 16:10-11). At this time Saint Justinian the Great was the Emperor of the Byzantine Empire. His throne must be what is referred to in Rev 16:10.
This is phenomenal prophecy fulfillment!
I can't help but see these two events as fulfillment of the fifth bowl of wrath (Rev 16:10-11). At this time Saint Justinian the Great was the Emperor of the Byzantine Empire. His throne must be what is referred to in Rev 16:10.
This is phenomenal prophecy fulfillment!
History:
The Byzantine Papacy was a period of Byzantine domination of the Roman papacy from 537 to 752, when popes required the approval of the Byzantine Emperor for episcopal consecration, and many popes were chosen from the apocrisiarii (liaisons from the pope to the emperor) or the inhabitants of Byzantine-ruled Greece, Syria, or Sicily. Justinian I conquered the Italian peninsula in the Gothic War (535–554) and appointed the next three popes, a practice that would be continued by his successors and later be delegated to the Exarchate of Ravenna.
With the exception of Pope Martin I, no pope during this period questioned the authority of the Byzantine monarch to confirm the election of the bishop of Rome before consecration could occur.
Bible Prophesy::
Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. This beast had two horns like a lamb, but spoke like a dragon. And this beast exercised all the authority of the first beast and caused the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose mortal wound had been healed.
Bible Prophesy fulfillment:
The first beast is a governmental leader (Emperor) and the second beast is a clerical leader (Pope)
Throughout history the 1st and 2nd beast jump from one person to the next, from one dynasty to the next, from one empire to the next...
1st Beast = Justinian I "the Great" (527 - 565AD)
1st Beast = Justin II (565 - 578AD)
1st Beast = Tibernius II Constatine (578 - 582AD)
on and on...
1st Beast = Charlemagne (800 - 814AD)
on and on...
History:
Within 50 years (Christmas 800), the papacy recognised Charlemagne as Holy Roman Emperor. This can be seen as symbolic of the papacy turning away from the declining Byzantium towards the new power of Carolingian Francia.
The Byzantine Papacy was a period of Byzantine domination of the Roman papacy from 537 to 752, when popes required the approval of the Byzantine Emperor for episcopal consecration, and many popes were chosen from the apocrisiarii (liaisons from the pope to the emperor) or the inhabitants of Byzantine-ruled Greece, Syria, or Sicily. Justinian I conquered the Italian peninsula in the Gothic War (535–554) and appointed the next three popes, a practice that would be continued by his successors and later be delegated to the Exarchate of Ravenna.
With the exception of Pope Martin I, no pope during this period questioned the authority of the Byzantine monarch to confirm the election of the bishop of Rome before consecration could occur.
Bible Prophesy::
Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. This beast had two horns like a lamb, but spoke like a dragon. And this beast exercised all the authority of the first beast and caused the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose mortal wound had been healed.
Bible Prophesy fulfillment:
The first beast is a governmental leader (Emperor) and the second beast is a clerical leader (Pope)
Throughout history the 1st and 2nd beast jump from one person to the next, from one dynasty to the next, from one empire to the next...
1st Beast = Justinian I "the Great" (527 - 565AD)
1st Beast = Justin II (565 - 578AD)
1st Beast = Tibernius II Constatine (578 - 582AD)
on and on...
1st Beast = Charlemagne (800 - 814AD)
on and on...
History:
Within 50 years (Christmas 800), the papacy recognised Charlemagne as Holy Roman Emperor. This can be seen as symbolic of the papacy turning away from the declining Byzantium towards the new power of Carolingian Francia.
Sounds like gnosticism.
You said we will be like the angels, but bro, i would submit to you that angels are not immaterial. Proof? Sodom and Gomorrah. Those angels had a body.
More proof: Our bodies will be similar to Jesus' resurrection body, He was the first of many brethren, and AFTER the resurrection Jesus drank, ate and said TOUCH ME for a SPIRIT hath not flesh and bones as you see me have.
You said we will be like the angels, but bro, i would submit to you that angels are not immaterial. Proof? Sodom and Gomorrah. Those angels had a body.
More proof: Our bodies will be similar to Jesus' resurrection body, He was the first of many brethren, and AFTER the resurrection Jesus drank, ate and said TOUCH ME for a SPIRIT hath not flesh and bones as you see me have.
Yes it is. No resurrection = No hope.
Not everything I disagree with is a heresy. But full preterism definately is. It teaches teh second coming CAME AND WENT. The fact that you dont agree with that should be surprising, but considering you are the man who used the words "misogynistic patriarchy", its no surprise you are soft on doctrine too.
Very disappointing to see that we are at a stage in Christianity where calling out something as heresy that denies the second coming of Jesus is yet future is seen as a negative thing. The modern western thought really has done a number on Christianity!
I wont put you on ignore, but i wont be responding to your stuff no more, i just cant see the use. Just saying that so you know its not fruitful to write to me since I wont be writing back. God bless you and your family though, hopefully you tighten things down on the doctrine department and start taking a stand.
Not everything I disagree with is a heresy. But full preterism definately is. It teaches teh second coming CAME AND WENT. The fact that you dont agree with that should be surprising, but considering you are the man who used the words "misogynistic patriarchy", its no surprise you are soft on doctrine too.
Very disappointing to see that we are at a stage in Christianity where calling out something as heresy that denies the second coming of Jesus is yet future is seen as a negative thing. The modern western thought really has done a number on Christianity!
I wont put you on ignore, but i wont be responding to your stuff no more, i just cant see the use. Just saying that so you know its not fruitful to write to me since I wont be writing back. God bless you and your family though, hopefully you tighten things down on the doctrine department and start taking a stand.
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Full-preterism has been on the rise on the internet recently. I have to say though i dont know ANY brethren in real life that believe that junk. NOT A ONE.
My theory is that its a pushback on the rapturemania, they got tired of the date-setting Harold Campings and the rest of them and now they found something online that says its all done. Its great to have that hidden knowledge of how it all went down and all these regular Christians still waiting for Jesus to come back.
My theory is that its a pushback on the rapturemania, they got tired of the date-setting Harold Campings and the rest of them and now they found something online that says its all done. Its great to have that hidden knowledge of how it all went down and all these regular Christians still waiting for Jesus to come back.
2 Thess 2:4
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God."
This would be big news. Surely the Jews would have recorded it and noted the identity of this person.
But you have no idea who this is? Ridiculous.
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God."
This would be big news. Surely the Jews would have recorded it and noted the identity of this person.
But you have no idea who this is? Ridiculous.
How much $ are the catholics paying you to spread this propoganda?
You don't understand the beasts or the kingdoms-empires.....PROPHECY HAS TO MATCH HISTORY ! It is how the Lo
See other replies I sent and watch the video on youtube
Babylon to America I am unaware of your atmospheric phenomena.....could be...
But....the keystone is the historical empires....
You are close there where yiu said the. Byzantine....Daniel 4&7....." The Iron Kingdom-
ROME- shall be DIVIDED-THE IRON SHALL MIX WITH THE CLAY-( the feet and toes of Daniels statue )-THE CLAY -is
CHRISTIANITY
A....oh israel shall I not do with you as THE POTTER-
GOD-......does with the clay-man-breath of life-day of pentecost-the church-constantine- in the sign of the CROSS YOU MUST CONQUER-CHRISTIANITY-ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH-
Iron and Clay mixed-paganism-satan-mixed with-christianity-.....Roman.Empire divided not conquered- BYZANTINE-JUSTINIAN DECREE-POPE-SATANIC CHRISTIANITY-BISHOP OF ROME-538-FIRST BEAST EMPIRE-1798-......SEE 🎥 VIDEO FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA
( it explains prophetic historical timeline )
You don't understand the beasts or the kingdoms-empires.....PROPHECY HAS TO MATCH HISTORY ! It is how the Lo
See other replies I sent and watch the video on youtube
Babylon to America I am unaware of your atmospheric phenomena.....could be...
But....the keystone is the historical empires....
You are close there where yiu said the. Byzantine....Daniel 4&7....." The Iron Kingdom-
ROME- shall be DIVIDED-THE IRON SHALL MIX WITH THE CLAY-( the feet and toes of Daniels statue )-THE CLAY -is
CHRISTIANITY
A....oh israel shall I not do with you as THE POTTER-
GOD-......does with the clay-man-breath of life-day of pentecost-the church-constantine- in the sign of the CROSS YOU MUST CONQUER-CHRISTIANITY-ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH-
Iron and Clay mixed-paganism-satan-mixed with-christianity-.....Roman.Empire divided not conquered- BYZANTINE-JUSTINIAN DECREE-POPE-SATANIC CHRISTIANITY-BISHOP OF ROME-538-FIRST BEAST EMPIRE-1798-......SEE 🎥 VIDEO FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA
( it explains prophetic historical timeline )
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There was two large volcanoes that erupted fairly close in time. One in 535/536 and the other in 539/540 CE. And It should be emphasized that large eruptions do not simply chill the world. The effects on weather and climate are non-uniform. They are regional and can differ markedly, as Pinatubo and Tambora have shown. Tropical eruptions, such as the 539/540 event, also exercise a different force on climate than high latitude Northern Hemispheric ones, like 535/536. For instance, major near-equatorial volcanism is known to cause winter warming in North America, Europe, and Russia, but winter cooling in Western and Eastern Asia. Extratropical Northern Hemispheric volcanism cools hot and cold seasons alike. Seasonality matters too. That high latitude eruptions seem to be more impactful if they occur in summer could indicate that the 535/536 eruption happened in that season.
Jesus appeared several times after His resurrection and kept changing His form.
Mark 16: 12, "After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as they walked and went into the country.
Luke 24: 13-16, " Now behold, two of them were traveling that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened. 15 So it was, while they conversed and reasoned, that Jesus Himself drew near and went with them. 16 But their eyes were restrained, so that they did not know Him.
John 20: 14-15 (Mary at the tomb), "Now when she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, and did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” She, supposing Him to be the gardener, said to Him, “Sir, if You have carried Him away, tell me where You have laid Him, and I will take Him away.”
John 21: 12, " Jesus said to them, “Come and eat breakfast.” Yet none of the disciples dared ask Him, “Who are You?”—knowing that it was the Lord."
Jesus looked different multiple times when He resurrected. He could make Himself appear however He wanted to. In the room with doubting Thomas He did appear in His pre-death appearance. The other instances, you can see from the Scritpures, He did not.
Angels, just like God, are spirits. Ministering spirits. They can take on bodies. I don't know what our resurrection body is like because I have never had one but I know it isn't like this one.
Mark 16: 12, "After that, He appeared in another form to two of them as they walked and went into the country.
Luke 24: 13-16, " Now behold, two of them were traveling that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was seven miles from Jerusalem. 14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened. 15 So it was, while they conversed and reasoned, that Jesus Himself drew near and went with them. 16 But their eyes were restrained, so that they did not know Him.
John 20: 14-15 (Mary at the tomb), "Now when she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, and did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?” She, supposing Him to be the gardener, said to Him, “Sir, if You have carried Him away, tell me where You have laid Him, and I will take Him away.”
John 21: 12, " Jesus said to them, “Come and eat breakfast.” Yet none of the disciples dared ask Him, “Who are You?”—knowing that it was the Lord."
Jesus looked different multiple times when He resurrected. He could make Himself appear however He wanted to. In the room with doubting Thomas He did appear in His pre-death appearance. The other instances, you can see from the Scritpures, He did not.
Angels, just like God, are spirits. Ministering spirits. They can take on bodies. I don't know what our resurrection body is like because I have never had one but I know it isn't like this one.
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Nobody is saying that there is no resurrection. It already happened in 70 A.D. When we die we immediately go to be with the Lord in our glorified spiritual body.
It is not heresy. Jesus kept His promise and came back in 70 A.D. How do you explain Matt 16: 27-28? He did not reward every man according to his deeds at the transfiguration. These verses along with Matt 24: 30-31 and Matt 10: 17-23 tell you He was coming back in His generation.
The resurrection is past. Christians die and immediately go to be with the Lord at death. There is no need for Christ to come back because He already did.
It is not heresy. Jesus kept His promise and came back in 70 A.D. How do you explain Matt 16: 27-28? He did not reward every man according to his deeds at the transfiguration. These verses along with Matt 24: 30-31 and Matt 10: 17-23 tell you He was coming back in His generation.
The resurrection is past. Christians die and immediately go to be with the Lord at death. There is no need for Christ to come back because He already did.
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