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Oh, they has the origional texts, that everyone understood, and not texts which were written 1600 years later which were translated into a flawed language. From copies of texts which can no longer be found. Written in languages which few understood anymore.
Its easy, one just has to open their mind and think, and not try to disprove people with nonsense like this when they cant disprove them with the word itself
Its easy, one just has to open their mind and think, and not try to disprove people with nonsense like this when they cant disprove them with the word itself
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The King Jimmy is a translation/transliteration and yes it has translation errors based upon the 54 Episcopalian PRIESTS that TRANSLATED it not being able to TRANSLATE accurately ANYTHING that contradicted the CHURCH of ENGLAND and the Pedophile KING JIMMY......and I suppose the OTHER 14 translations GOT THE WORD WRONG HEY....
Dude, you are such deceiver!
Dude, you are such deceiver!
You carry on, any excuse to avoid doing an exegesis of scripture you cannot do. You simply confirm what I repeatedly state on these websites. People who run to the greek and concordences cannot discern a spiritual message when asked to do so, for they have the wrong kind of trinity, Father Son and the Bible. They rely on the little grey cells to learn, not the Holy Spirit, and only he can lead you into spiritual truth/discernement. All you are left with then, is a very shallow understanding of the message, hence your deflection now
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Adikimos Definition:
You are correct that in the context of 1 Corinthians 9:27, it does not mean lose salvation. *The NIV says ..disqualified for the prize and not disqualified for salvation. This is what happens when people give words a "broad brushed definition" in every instance. I see this happen a lot with the word "justified." (Romans 5:1; James 2:24) A "broad brushed definition" of the word "justified" results in the false doctrine of "saved by works" in James 2:24.
In context, Paul asks the question. What is the prize before Paul? Is it that reward of which he spoke in verse 1 Corinthians 9:18, his glorying of preaching a free gospel? There are those who take Paul to be referring to the possibility of his rejection in his personal salvation at the end of the race. The problem that I see with that interpretation is there is a difference between a prize and a gift. A prize is something that you work for and earn where a gift is something that you freely accept without merit. Prize (brabeion) - the prize awarded to a victor, the reward (recognition) that follows triumph. Yet salvation is a free gift that we freely accept. (Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8). 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 mentions - If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, (of reward) though he himself will be saved.
Kenneth Wuest paraphrases the last half of 1Co 9:27 as "I myself should be disqualified [from further Christian service]."
Henry Morris writes that "The Greek for "castaway" (adokimos) means literally "disapproved," but it does not suggest being discarded altogether. Paul had just written about losing all rewards but still being saved (1Corinthians 3:15), and he realized that this could become possible even for him. (Defender's Study Bible Online Notes)
W A Criswell observes that "Paul's assurance of salvation (cf. 2Ti 1:12) and his confidence in the security of the believer (cf. Ro 8:30, 31) go hand-in-hand with self-discipline and watchfulness (1Co 10:12). There is no hint of any possible loss of salvation in the text. Paul disciplines himself rigorously so that he will not become "disqualified." This final word is adokimos (Gk.), suggesting the idea of "disapproved." Paul does not fear loss of salvation, but rather loss of his work and influence as a minister of Christ. (Criswell, W A. Believer's Study Bible: New King James Version. 1991. Thomas Nelson)
Everett Harrison writes that "The emphasis in the NT falls rather on self-discipline as the key to dedicated usefulness in the kingdom of God (1Co 9:24-27) (Colossians: Christ All Sufficient. Everyman's Bible Commentary).
Scofield writes that in using adokimos "The apostle is writing of service, not of salvation. He is not expressing fear that he may fail of salvation but of his crown.
Paul does not seem to indicate any insecurity about his position - "Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day--and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing." (2 Timothy 4:8).
In 1 Corinthians 9:24, Paul mentions - Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. That doesn't sound like the free gift of eternal life. That sounds like an Olympic race where all run, but only one receives the gold medal. Would this mean that everyone else is disqualified from the race? Silver medal, bronze medal, no medal but finished the race, all disqualified from the race? Of course not!
- not standing the test, not approved
- properly used of metals and coins
- that which does not prove itself such as it ought
- unfit for, unproved, spurious, reprobate
You are correct that in the context of 1 Corinthians 9:27, it does not mean lose salvation. *The NIV says ..disqualified for the prize and not disqualified for salvation. This is what happens when people give words a "broad brushed definition" in every instance. I see this happen a lot with the word "justified." (Romans 5:1; James 2:24) A "broad brushed definition" of the word "justified" results in the false doctrine of "saved by works" in James 2:24.
In context, Paul asks the question. What is the prize before Paul? Is it that reward of which he spoke in verse 1 Corinthians 9:18, his glorying of preaching a free gospel? There are those who take Paul to be referring to the possibility of his rejection in his personal salvation at the end of the race. The problem that I see with that interpretation is there is a difference between a prize and a gift. A prize is something that you work for and earn where a gift is something that you freely accept without merit. Prize (brabeion) - the prize awarded to a victor, the reward (recognition) that follows triumph. Yet salvation is a free gift that we freely accept. (Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8). 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 mentions - If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, (of reward) though he himself will be saved.
Kenneth Wuest paraphrases the last half of 1Co 9:27 as "I myself should be disqualified [from further Christian service]."
Henry Morris writes that "The Greek for "castaway" (adokimos) means literally "disapproved," but it does not suggest being discarded altogether. Paul had just written about losing all rewards but still being saved (1Corinthians 3:15), and he realized that this could become possible even for him. (Defender's Study Bible Online Notes)
W A Criswell observes that "Paul's assurance of salvation (cf. 2Ti 1:12) and his confidence in the security of the believer (cf. Ro 8:30, 31) go hand-in-hand with self-discipline and watchfulness (1Co 10:12). There is no hint of any possible loss of salvation in the text. Paul disciplines himself rigorously so that he will not become "disqualified." This final word is adokimos (Gk.), suggesting the idea of "disapproved." Paul does not fear loss of salvation, but rather loss of his work and influence as a minister of Christ. (Criswell, W A. Believer's Study Bible: New King James Version. 1991. Thomas Nelson)
Everett Harrison writes that "The emphasis in the NT falls rather on self-discipline as the key to dedicated usefulness in the kingdom of God (1Co 9:24-27) (Colossians: Christ All Sufficient. Everyman's Bible Commentary).
Scofield writes that in using adokimos "The apostle is writing of service, not of salvation. He is not expressing fear that he may fail of salvation but of his crown.
Paul does not seem to indicate any insecurity about his position - "Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day--and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing." (2 Timothy 4:8).
In 1 Corinthians 9:24, Paul mentions - Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. That doesn't sound like the free gift of eternal life. That sounds like an Olympic race where all run, but only one receives the gold medal. Would this mean that everyone else is disqualified from the race? Silver medal, bronze medal, no medal but finished the race, all disqualified from the race? Of course not!
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AMEN brother, but hey...the deceivers MUST keep the people under the yoke of bondage...just like the Catholics and church salvation.....another form of bondage....twist the word, deny context and the ACTUAL application of the word to peddle a losable salvation and or a works based false gospel of a different kind.....
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They cannot........nor will they.....how many times have we laid out the promises and verbiage like Irrevocable, or Incorruptible etc.....and they refuse to acknowledge ANY truth that proves their error and they CONSTANTLY pit the bible against the bible by their out of context, distorted views......nothing but deceivers with no honesty or integrity.....
and then they like to use the word EXEGESIS.............they should take their own advice and learn how to do just that.........
and then they like to use the word EXEGESIS.............they should take their own advice and learn how to do just that.........
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Amen! I will answer my own questions.
Do you believe that there is ONE God in essence/nature who eternally exists in three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Do you believe that JESUS IS GOD?
My answer is YES!!!
Now lets see if unclesilas can man up and answer YES or NO.
Do you believe that there is ONE God in essence/nature who eternally exists in three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Do you believe that JESUS IS GOD?
My answer is YES!!!
Now lets see if unclesilas can man up and answer YES or NO.
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Amen! I will answer my own questions.
Do you believe that there is ONE God in essence/nature who eternally exists in three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Do you believe that JESUS IS GOD?
My answer is YES!!!
Now lets see if unclesilas can man up and answer YES or NO.
Do you believe that there is ONE God in essence/nature who eternally exists in three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Do you believe that JESUS IS GOD?
My answer is YES!!!
Now lets see if unclesilas can man up and answer YES or NO.
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So according to you the Holy Spirit is the author of Confusion and does not lead the willing into all truth?
I know you don't believe that eternally grateful.
Incidentally contextually speaking the Holy Spirit was mentioned in respects to the amazing growth of the New Testament church. Thousands daily.
Now another spirit works in GOD's professed people contrary to HIS'. Hence the confusion you speak of.
I know you don't believe that eternally grateful.
Incidentally contextually speaking the Holy Spirit was mentioned in respects to the amazing growth of the New Testament church. Thousands daily.
Now another spirit works in GOD's professed people contrary to HIS'. Hence the confusion you speak of.
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