what are the rules one must follow on the sabbath?

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Let's start with some basic activities from which we refrain on Shabbat:

writing, erasing, and tearing;
business transactions;
driving or riding in cars or other vehicles;
shopping;
using the telephone;
turning on or off anything which uses electricity, including lights, radios, television, computer, air-conditioners and alarm clocks;
cooking, baking or kindling a fire;
gardening and grass-mowing;
doing laundry;

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/95907/jewish/The-Shabbat-Laws.htm


5 The thirty-nine creative activities
5.1 The Order of Bread
5.1.1 Planting
5.1.2 Plowing
5.1.3 Reaping
5.1.4 Gathering
5.1.5 Threshing/extraction
5.1.6 Winnowing
5.1.7 Sorting/purification
5.1.8 Grinding
5.1.9 Sifting
5.1.10 Kneading/amalgamation
5.1.11 Cooking/baking
5.2 The Order of Garments
5.2.1 Shearing
5.2.2 Scouring/laundering
5.2.3 Carding/combing wool
5.2.4 Dyeing
5.2.5 Spinning
5.2.6 Warping
5.2.7 Making two loops/threading heddles
5.2.8 Weaving
5.2.9 Separating two threads
5.2.10 Tying
5.2.11 Untying
5.2.12 Sewing
5.2.13 Tearing
5.3 The Order of Hides
5.3.1 Trapping
5.3.2 Slaughtering
5.3.3 Flaying/skinning
5.3.4 Curing/preserving
5.3.5 Smoothing
5.3.6 Scoring
5.3.7 Measured cutting
5.4 The Order of Construction
5.4.1 Writing
5.4.2 Erasing
5.4.3 Building
5.4.4 Demolition
5.4.5 Extinguishing a fire
5.4.6 Igniting a fire
5.4.7 Applying the finishing touch
5.4.8 Transferring between domains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabbat
https://www.ou.org/holidays/shabbat/the_thirty_nine_categories_of_sabbath_work_prohibited_by_law/
https://www.google.com/search?q=pro...9iLrgAhVOMqwKHVa0BmIQBQgrKAA&biw=1163&bih=483
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5.4.7. 😁
 

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Sorry Im not going to argue with you you dont discern prophecy at all and have delusional concepts and paste way to much unnecessary that doesnt explain anything....

"YOU GO WATCH FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA."
The above is the crux of your problem for false interpretation. I will continue in my own personal study of God's word, just as I have been for the last 45 years. YouTube is one of the reasons for so much false interpretation of God's word, trusting in the teachings of men.

Babylon cannot be America and that because the scripture, which you are ignoring, states that the woman is a city, where America is a nation. America also does not sit on seven hills. I hope that you will take thought of this conversation while your are standing in line to receive the device in your hand or forehead in place of your debit card or cell phone bank app., because once you accept it, the opportunity for eternal life will be over.

I even posted the definition of the word Sheol/Hades and you rejected it.
 

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Some see Revelation as a prophetic warning but, I see God showing us His plan from beginning to end. It's a beautiful plan - kinda like a blueprint - full of symbols that mean something! I thoroughly believe I am to understand it. I enjoy the Book of Revelation very much! It doesn't scare me, Daddy loves me!:love:

To me the Father is the Master Architect (meaning it is His Plan),

Yeshua/Jesus is the General Contractor (meaning He got the bid - all authority and power has been given to Him to complete the plan),

the Holy Spirit is the Foreman (meaning He is in the field -on Earth - onsite with the laborers telling and helping us with what to do),

the angels and believers are co-laborers (meaning we love and obey, we rejoice together to do the Father's Will because we love Him!).

Love is the greatest, even if I know all mysteries and have not love, I am nothing. I always want my relationship with God to be right - I focus on loving Him and knowing Him.
So if you see all that in that way then you don't mind if our Father Architect has a rule about the days we work and the day we rest then right ?
Because he has indicated a specific rest day and if we work that day and rest on a work day because somebody else undermined his authority and changed the schedule he has said there wont be a pay day.
 

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The above is the crux of your problem for false interpretation. I will continue in my own personal study of God's word, just as I have been for the last 45 years. YouTube is one of the reasons for so much false interpretation of God's word, trusting in the teachings of men.

Babylon cannot be America and that because the scripture, which you are ignoring, states that the woman is a city, where America is a nation. America also does not sit on seven hills. I hope that you will take thought of this conversation while your are standing in line to receive the device in your hand or forehead in place of your debit card or cell phone bank app., because once you accept it, the opportunity for eternal life will be over.

I even posted the definition of the word Sheol/Hades and you rejected it.

Wrong wrong wrong...I can read I know what it says and you spew lies about people. You dont know and 411 you havent seen. Go away sorry I spoke to you.
 

Ahwatukee

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So if you see all that in that way then you don't mind if our Father Architect has a rule about the days we work and the day we rest then right ?
Because he has indicated a specific rest day and if we work that day and rest on a work day because somebody else undermined his authority and changed the schedule he has said there wont be a pay day.
We are no longer under the law and cannot be saved by abstaining from certain foods, observing any Sabbaths, the ten commandments, or any other works of the law. In fact, scripture states that the law gives sin its power. When we try to keep the law and fail, it kills us, because we can't keep it.

Regarding keeping certain days, pick one. For this is what scripture has to say about it:

"One man regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes a special day does so to the Lord; he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God."

Therefore, understand that you and others can observe those things, but they are not required for salvation. If you doing works as a requirement for salvation, it is the same as saying that the Lord's sacrifice was insufficient. You are free to observe them, Sabbaths, abstaining from certain foods, etc. It is when you trust in those things as a requirement for your salvation that is eternal life threatening.
 

Ahwatukee

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Wrong wrong wrong...I can read I know what it says and you spew lies about people. You dont know and 411 you havent seen. Go away sorry I spoke to you.
Well, obviously you can read, but you don't believe what you are reading. I just showed you the scripture which says that the woman who rides the beast is a city and that city sits on seven hills. You can read this in Rev.17. However, if you apply an allegorical/spiritual interpretation to it, then that is the problem, i.e. not believing the plain, literal meaning.

Also, I believe that the reason you are sorry that you spoke to me, is because I know the truth and you don't like hearing it.
 

SIMON55

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One of the things that saddens me the most is that Hell will be full of those who did not believe in the reality of Hell.
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God is also a God of righteous judgment where all sin must be accounted for. Furthermore, God's love, grace and His mercy are in operation only while a person is alive. Once a person dies in their sins, their record is sealed and that person will be held accountable for every idle word that they spoke in life. In opposition, those who die belonging to Christ, He was held accountable for all believers sins.

You have that backwards! Both the words Sheol and Hades, being the same place, should never be translated as the grave, tomb or sepulcher, but as the realm of departed spirits after death, as can be seen from the definition below:

Strong's Concordance
hadés: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Original Word: ᾍδης, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hadés
Phonetic Spelling: (hah'-dace)
Definition: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Usage: Hades, the unseen world.

HELPS Word-studies
86 hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see") – properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.

By the way, I don't know why you would say that "you don't believe in hell" because Jesus talked about it more than anyone, as everlasting fire, eternal punishment, eternal torment.
Hades is not hell it is a Greek myth....hell is an english mistranslation of the Hebrew Sheol. .....hell is not HELL!!!
HEll !!! IS THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT DOES NOT EXIST YET!!!
NOBODY IS BEING TORTURED YET.....NOT EVEN SATAN....
I am glad your god is sadistic.
I can see how he would be.
My God is merciful or he never would have healed me!
OR HE WOULD HAVE JYST LEFT ME IN THE HELL I WAS IN AND YOU WISH ON US ALL!!
Yes.....he is an all consuming fire and some will not be ressurected from the grave-sheol. ....and some will go up in smoke.....why do you believe your god is sadustic and will make people swim in a lake of fire forever?
To be blotted out and permanently seperated from your creator is torment....b
 

SIMON55

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God is also a God of righteous judgment where all sin must be accounted for. Furthermore, God's love, grace and His mercy are in operation only while a person is alive. Once a person dies in their sins, their record is sealed and that person will be held accountable for every idle word that they spoke in life. In opposition, those who die belonging to Christ, He was held accountable for all believers sins.

You have that backwards! Both the words Sheol and Hades, being the same place, should never be translated as the grave, tomb or sepulcher, but as the realm of departed spirits after death, as can be seen from the definition below:

Strong's Concordance
hadés: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Original Word: ᾍδης, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hadés
Phonetic Spelling: (hah'-dace)
Definition: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Usage: Hades, the unseen world.

HELPS Word-studies
86 hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see") – properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.

By the way, I don't know why you would say that "you don't believe in hell" because Jesus talked about it more than anyone, as everlasting fire, eternal punishment, eternal torment.
Wrong
 

SIMON55

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Well, obviously you can read, but you don't believe what you are reading. I just showed you the scripture which says that the woman who rides the beast is a city and that city sits on seven hills. You can read this in Rev.17. However, if you apply an allegorical/spiritual interpretation to it, then that is the problem, i.e. not believing the plain, literal meaning.

Also, I believe that the reason you are sorry that you spoke to me, is because I know the truth and you don't like hearing it.
No you cant read I never said America was Babylon or a city
I SAID AMERICA WAS THE SECOND BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!
But .......IF YOU WANT TO INSIST ON ME PICKING A CITY .....PUT MY BET DOWN ON
NY CITY NY....there you happy go away!
 

SIMON55

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JUST BECAUSE A WORD EXISTS AND A DEFINITION FOR IT EXISTS DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE.....SHEOL IS THE GRAVE IN HEBREW.....YOUR SPIRIT IS THE BREATH OF GOD BREATHED INTO ADAM ....SPIRITS DO NOT EXIST IN THE GRAVE THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING YOUR SPIRIT IS THE ELECTRICAL CURRENT OF YOUR LIFE AND YOUR BRAIN AND GOES TO SLEEP AND BACK TO GOD UNTIL THE RESSURECTIONS-ADVENT2
 

Dino246

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No you cant read I never said America was Babylon or a city
I SAID AMERICA WAS THE SECOND BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!
But .......IF YOU WANT TO INSIST ON ME PICKING A CITY .....PUT MY BET DOWN ON
NY CITY NY....there you happy go away!
Wow... first day and your bad attitude is already on display. I can see you've learned how to make friends and influence people. Clearly you aren't here for fellowship, but to bash others over the head with your views.

You aren't the first, and sadly, you likely won't be the last. However, I do expect to see the last of you within a week. In the meantime, how about you go and meditate on Galatians 5:19-24.
 

SIMON55

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Well, obviously you can read, but you don't believe what you are reading. I just showed you the scripture which says that the woman who rides the beast is a city and that city sits on seven hills. You can read this in Rev.17. However, if you apply an allegorical/spiritual interpretation to it, then that is the problem, i.e. not believing the plain, literal meaning.

Also, I believe that the reason you are sorry that you spoke to me, is because I know the truth and you don't like hearing it.
You're Hilariously delusional with your Marj of the Beast monetary conspiracy theories that people worship and Daniel and Revelation prophesying about them....Yeah you got the truth for sure buddy ....lol
 

SIMON55

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Wow... first day and your bad attitude is already on display. I can see you've learned how to make friends and influence people. Clearly you aren't here for fellowship, but to bash others over the head with your views.

You aren't the first, and sadly, you likely won't be the last. However, I do expect to see the last of you within a week. In the meantime, how about you go and meditate on Galatians 5:19-24.
Well maybe I will since you are casting stones.
 

Lafftur

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So if you see all that in that way then you don't mind if our Father Architect has a rule about the days we work and the day we rest then right ?
Because he has indicated a specific rest day and if we work that day and rest on a work day because somebody else undermined his authority and changed the schedule he has said there wont be a pay day.
Human reasoning, and prideful flesh really do a lot of damage to sweet new born babes in Christ. God has set us free to love Him and spend time with Him. Yet, you say it is a "rule." I disagree. The Sabbath is God saying, "Come, spend some time with me and rest."

God is a jealous God, He greatly desires our love and attention. I also greatly desire His, too!

You would do well focusing on loving God instead of all the "rules."
 

SIMON55

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Human reasoning, and prideful flesh really do a lot of damage to sweet new born babes in Christ. God has set us free to love Him and spend time with Him. Yet, you say it is a "rule." I disagree. The Sabbath is God saying, "Come, spend some time with me and rest."

God is a jealous God, He greatly desires our love and attention. I also greatly desire His, too!

You would do well focusing on loving God instead of all the "rules."
" If you love me you will keep my word"....do you see that as a rule also....? Is the commandment to love the lord your God with all your heart a ?....rule ?....I don't love rules maam...I don't thump statutes.....God has said those who love him love his word and keep it....if I find a rule in it that is related to prophecy for the times I pay attention to it.....me suggesting to others that God has said pay attention ti this isnt me trying to stone others with rules that I have a love for.. .I was stoned here today by a group that i tried to say" It is written to"....but that is fine I can agree to disagree ....but it is written Daniel and Revelation tell of a mark associated to Daniel 7:25 and the Sabbath and it is the name and the number of a man....not a currency implant.
Vicarius Filii DEi 666
To keep the word of God in love for him you must learn it.
I don't control whether prophecy is associated to a day and what people want to see as a rule.....
I have no love of rules only love for God and his word but people are welcome to twist it however they like to stone me with it.
 

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SUN-god-DAY IS FOR PAGAN SUN god WORISHIPPERS MARKED BY THE BEAST AND DECEIVED.
Actually the pagan god Saturn was far worse than the pagan god Sol (the Sun). So talking about sun-god worship means absolutely nothing. The Seventh Day Adventists have been falsely claiming that Sunday worship equals the Mark of the Beast.

But what is presently called "Sunday" was the first day of the week, and this is called "the Lord's Day" in the Bible, since the Lord Jesus Christ rose on the first day of the week (the morrow after the sabbath). And we find that the apostolic churches were meeting on the first day of the week to worship the Lord.
 

Lafftur

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" If you love me you will keep my word"....do you see that as a rule also....? Is the commandment to love the lord your God with all your heart a ?....rule ?....I don't love rules maam...I don't thump statutes.....God has said those who love him love his word and keep it....if I find a rule in it that is related to prophecy for the times I pay attention to it.....me suggesting to others that God has said pay attention ti this isnt me trying to stone others with rules that I have a love for.. .I was stoned here today by a group that i tried to say" It is written to"....but that is fine I can agree to disagree ....but it is written Daniel and Revelation tell of a mark associated to Daniel 7:25 and the Sabbath and it is the name and the number of a man....not a currency implant.
Vicarius Filii DEi 666
To keep the word of God in love for him you must learn it.
I don't control whether prophecy is associated to a day and what people want to see as a rule.....
I have no love of rules only love for God and his word but people are welcome to twist it however they like to stone me with it.
Well, only the one without sin can cast the first stone so,.......................I really don't think any of us will be throwing stones at each other. No worries.

Simon55, you have freedom to voice your thoughts regarding scripture but, none of us agree on scripture so, it's going to be a debate. Some things we'll agree and some we won't. It's okay. God will fix us and set everything in order in His timing. No worries.

We are all loved by God and He knows what He is doing. You are loved and accepted. Peace to you. :):)(y)
 

SIMON55

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Actually the pagan god Saturn was far worse than the pagan god Sol (the Sun). So talking about sun-god worship means absolutely nothing. The Seventh Day Adventists have been falsely claiming that Sunday worship equals the Mark of the Beast.

But what is presently called "Sunday" was the first day of the week, and this is called "the Lord's Day" in the Bible, since the Lord Jesus Christ rose on the first day of the week (the morrow after the sabbath). And we find that the apostolic churches were meeting on the first day of the week to worship the Lord.
No the false Sabbath that those Satan lies support are the deceptiin and the Mark of the Beast ....you are falsely representing the word of Gid that defines the Mark of authority as the name and number of a man and you do not comprehend prophecy .I do not accept those lies that are false doctrines of men and do not match exactly the word of God....there is nothing false about the prophecy that the blasphemers will THINK to change The Sabbath DANIEL 7:25 is The 1260 yr antichrist beast and the name and the number of a man in Revelation ONE IN THE SAME
If you cant accept Gods word dont bother me.
 

SIMON55

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Well, only the one without sin can cast the first stone so,.......................I really don't think any of us will be throwing stones at each other. No worries.

Simon55, you have freedom to voice your thoughts regarding scripture but, none of us agree on scripture so, it's going to be a debate. Some things we'll agree and some we won't. It's okay. God will fix us and set everything in order in His timing. No worries.

We are all loved by God and He knows what He is doing. You are loved and accepted. Peace to you. :):)(y)
And Love and peace and Ruach comfort and blessing to you for your kind and sweet words that are very Christian and appreciated😀😀😀