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Sure you can change reality with your words, for go to the worse city in America, and bad mouth the neighborhood, and acting tough, and come out people and I will whip your butt, and you will change reality real fast.
Or run towards the White House spouting off you will get the president, and put him in his grave, and you will change reality real fast.
Or slander your boss, and call them a piece of crap, and money grubbing leach, that pays their employees crap, and raises that are pathetic, or do not come at all, after you have been there for 10 years, but your financial situation is actually worse for things in society went up more than your pay to keep up with it, and you will change reality real fast.
Or tell your spouse that you cheated on them with 10 different people, and you plan to do it again, and you will change reality real fast.
So our words can change reality, lol.
Or run towards the White House spouting off you will get the president, and put him in his grave, and you will change reality real fast.
Or slander your boss, and call them a piece of crap, and money grubbing leach, that pays their employees crap, and raises that are pathetic, or do not come at all, after you have been there for 10 years, but your financial situation is actually worse for things in society went up more than your pay to keep up with it, and you will change reality real fast.
Or tell your spouse that you cheated on them with 10 different people, and you plan to do it again, and you will change reality real fast.
So our words can change reality, lol.
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if you are saying everyone should be healed I would disagree with that conclusion
even Paul was not 'healed' and God told him that His strength was sufficient and he would not be healed
and Paul accepted that as the will of God for him and did not address it again (apparently)
is there something wrong with praying that God's will be done? Jesus even used that expression when the disciples asked Him to teach them to pray
should we pray for healing? yes of course we should...but some have actually died, some go away angry at God and some become very depressed when they start with the idea that God will heal them if they only have enough faith
seems to me if a person is praying for healing in the first place, they have that 'faith like a mustard seed' going on or they would not ask to begin with
I don't know the bigger picture here, but I would always pray and maybe keep praying unless like Paul I was told 'not going to happen'
we have John 3:16 that states God is not willing for anyone to die in their sins and go to eternal condemnation (my paraphrase) but we do not have an equivocal verse that states the same regarding healing of the body
as I have said more than once in this forum, Jesus died so we could have our sins forgiven. He healed BEFORE the cross so healing was ALWAYS available.
even Paul was not 'healed' and God told him that His strength was sufficient and he would not be healed
and Paul accepted that as the will of God for him and did not address it again (apparently)
is there something wrong with praying that God's will be done? Jesus even used that expression when the disciples asked Him to teach them to pray
should we pray for healing? yes of course we should...but some have actually died, some go away angry at God and some become very depressed when they start with the idea that God will heal them if they only have enough faith
seems to me if a person is praying for healing in the first place, they have that 'faith like a mustard seed' going on or they would not ask to begin with
I don't know the bigger picture here, but I would always pray and maybe keep praying unless like Paul I was told 'not going to happen'
we have John 3:16 that states God is not willing for anyone to die in their sins and go to eternal condemnation (my paraphrase) but we do not have an equivocal verse that states the same regarding healing of the body
as I have said more than once in this forum, Jesus died so we could have our sins forgiven. He healed BEFORE the cross so healing was ALWAYS available.
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I agree for the most part with this. I would say some people berate others in their " righteous judgement", but I would hesitate on saying most people do it. Though many people when angry or irritated will at times say things they should not or in a tone of voice that is not good. I have both said things I should not have and used a tone of voice that was inappropriate. I know the verse that encourages us to be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to be angry and at times it is really easy to switch all that around in actions so that I am doing the opposite of what these verses instruct.
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Ahh, the classic "Thorn in the flesh" of Paul that so many interpret at sickness. Let's just say that, in American English, if I ever write, you are such a "pain in the neck", does that literally mean you are a sickness that is afflicting my neck too? 
But the term thorn in the flesh refers to people, and let the bible interpret the bible here Numbers 33:55
`But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come about that those whom you let remain of them will become as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will trouble you in the land in which you live.
As I have pointed out, there are verses that promised healing, its really our own personal interpretation, which as I have said to Angela, comes from the church we are from, the christian background we have, etc, that will result in different interpretations, try Psalms 103, Hebrews 13:8.
But at this time, let us agree to disagree since I understand that, at this modern age, its far easier to believe that "your sins are forgiven' compared to 'rise get up and walk'. You don't need to show physical proof of the former, while the latter, there are always people who "seem" not to be healed after you pray in faith. If you don't believe physical healing is part of what Jesus done for you in the cross, its fine, you are still a Christian.
But the term thorn in the flesh refers to people, and let the bible interpret the bible here Numbers 33:55
`But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come about that those whom you let remain of them will become as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will trouble you in the land in which you live.
As I have pointed out, there are verses that promised healing, its really our own personal interpretation, which as I have said to Angela, comes from the church we are from, the christian background we have, etc, that will result in different interpretations, try Psalms 103, Hebrews 13:8.
But at this time, let us agree to disagree since I understand that, at this modern age, its far easier to believe that "your sins are forgiven' compared to 'rise get up and walk'. You don't need to show physical proof of the former, while the latter, there are always people who "seem" not to be healed after you pray in faith. If you don't believe physical healing is part of what Jesus done for you in the cross, its fine, you are still a Christian.
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Most people who hold that view have trusted the Lord with healing in the past, but did not see their healing manifest physically.
So its perfectly understandable that, to solve the cognitive dissonance, they choose to adopt the view that "God might heal, or he might want to use my sickness as a way to glorify him".
So its perfectly understandable that, to solve the cognitive dissonance, they choose to adopt the view that "God might heal, or he might want to use my sickness as a way to glorify him".
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As I have mentioned elsewhere, if all he did was to grant us salvation, he just needed to shed his blood, like all the OT lambs that were being sacrificed.
But Jesus undergone something that none of those lambs did, he was actually whipped. Why did he have to be whipped as well? Do you have a view about that?
But Jesus undergone something that none of those lambs did, he was actually whipped. Why did he have to be whipped as well? Do you have a view about that?
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Ahh, the classic "Thorn in the flesh" of Paul that so many interpret at sickness. Let's just say that, in American English, if I ever write, you are such a "pain in the neck", does that literally mean you are a sickness that is afflicting my neck too?
But the term thorn in the flesh refers to people, and let the bible interpret the bible here Numbers 33:55
`But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come about that those whom you let remain of them will become as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will trouble you in the land in which you live.
As I have pointed out, there are verses that promised healing, its really our own personal interpretation, which as I have said to Angela, comes from the church we are from, the christian background we have, etc, that will result in different interpretations, try Psalms 103, Hebrews 13:8.
But at this time, let us agree to disagree since I understand that, at this modern age, its far easier to believe that "your sins are forgiven' compared to 'rise get up and walk'. You don't need to show physical proof of the former, while the latter, there are always people who "seem" not to be healed after you pray in faith. If you don't believe physical healing is part of what Jesus done for you in the cross, its fine, you are still a Christian.
But the term thorn in the flesh refers to people, and let the bible interpret the bible here Numbers 33:55
`But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come about that those whom you let remain of them will become as pricks in your eyes and as thorns in your sides, and they will trouble you in the land in which you live.
As I have pointed out, there are verses that promised healing, its really our own personal interpretation, which as I have said to Angela, comes from the church we are from, the christian background we have, etc, that will result in different interpretations, try Psalms 103, Hebrews 13:8.
But at this time, let us agree to disagree since I understand that, at this modern age, its far easier to believe that "your sins are forgiven' compared to 'rise get up and walk'. You don't need to show physical proof of the former, while the latter, there are always people who "seem" not to be healed after you pray in faith. If you don't believe physical healing is part of what Jesus done for you in the cross, its fine, you are still a Christian.
A doctrine that says "God loves you so much, and hates sickness so much, that it is always his will to heal you" is considered to be false and is deceiving believers?
How little you regard God's love for you when even the pagans would regard their own children in a likewise manner (Matthew 7:11)
How little you regard God's love for you when even the pagans would regard their own children in a likewise manner (Matthew 7:11)
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A doctrine that says "God loves you so much, and hates sickness so much, that it is always his will to heal you" is considered to be false and is deceiving believers?
How little you regard God's love for you when even the pagans would regard their own children in a likewise manner (Matthew 7:11)
How little you regard God's love for you when even the pagans would regard their own children in a likewise manner (Matthew 7:11)
God loves you. He dont want that you are sick. You only must believe it.
He has alredy physical healed you at the cross. You must just believe it.
But this person still remain with the sickness.
Do you then tell him your faith is not strong enough?
You gave him a false promiss!
In my understanding this is false teaching and deceives the believer.
Finaly to come to the conclusion that God does not love him, because he remain sick.
And tell me not that every sick person is in reality without sickness, he must only believe it.
This is a lie. And tjis teaching is not from our heavenly father.
No but Reality in God can change you by His Word that is Spirit and Life.
Once I asked God if I should get a gun for hunting in a famine. You would be surprised at His answer and it applies to your question: You don't need any invention. Having all knowledge or anything without Love, "I am nothing." Can anything change Reality. The Father is the Life of everything, He does not need our help, we need His help, to change by His Spirit.
Once I asked God if I should get a gun for hunting in a famine. You would be surprised at His answer and it applies to your question: You don't need any invention. Having all knowledge or anything without Love, "I am nothing." Can anything change Reality. The Father is the Life of everything, He does not need our help, we need His help, to change by His Spirit.
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You forgot the story of Abraham, our Father in faith?
How many years pass when God rename Abram to Abraham, which means Father of many, to the birth of his first son Issac?
Again, if you choose to believe physical healing is not part of Jesus's finished work on the cross, you are free to do so. God still loves you.
But to call those who believe otherwise as believing in a "false doctrine", be very careful.
How many years pass when God rename Abram to Abraham, which means Father of many, to the birth of his first son Issac?
Again, if you choose to believe physical healing is not part of Jesus's finished work on the cross, you are free to do so. God still loves you.
But to call those who believe otherwise as believing in a "false doctrine", be very careful.
You forgot the story of Abraham, our Father in faith?
How many years pass when God rename Abram to Abraham, which means Father of many, to the birth of his first son Issac?
Again, if you choose to believe physical healing is not part of Jesus's finished work on the cross, you are free to do so. God still loves you.
But to call those who believe otherwise as believing in a "false doctrine", be very careful.
How many years pass when God rename Abram to Abraham, which means Father of many, to the birth of his first son Issac?
Again, if you choose to believe physical healing is not part of Jesus's finished work on the cross, you are free to do so. God still loves you.
But to call those who believe otherwise as believing in a "false doctrine", be very careful.
This is a from father given ability.
As always the answer is in the word
Mat 18
16 And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
18 And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out?
20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting