Neither Death Nor Life Nor Angels Or Demons ( Romans:8)

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DustyRhodes

DustyRhodes

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Will Separate Us From God's Love,

Once we have inherited God's kingdom through our faith,
nothing can snatch us away from the power of God. We
become His children helpless futile and empty and allow
ourselves to become filled with His love. All that we once
knew, all that we once had; what was once intellect will
disappear when His love overtakes us. Either He is in us
or He isn't. It's a matter of acceptance and trust. If we are
unable to say "Yes Lord I will love you the rest of my life,"
then we are deceiving ourselves. We cannot embark upon
the journey to God by being part time believers. There is no
scripture that says we can take some days off for ourselves
and release God from our life and do our own will. Our will
needs to be His will. If we don't surrender all of ourselves to
God, then we are cheating ourselves.
 
Jimbone

Jimbone

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Thank God for His indescribable goodness, especially with what He's teaching me right now. I am so grateful for a Father that loves me enough to discipline me. He has open my eye's even further through this huge, embarrassing, and very painful situation I created for myself by lifting a substance too high (no pun intended), and was only thinking of justifying it in the flesh, and thinking nothing about the spiritual impact it could have. I got arrested for poss. under 20 grams of marijuana and paraphernalia and oh man what a foolish careless, spiritually thoughtless mess I've made. Wow does it hurt. Not because of the fleshly consequences. As far as me smoking the way I did, with thanksgiving, in total moderation (I actually would see how little I could smoke each time, not that it matters ), fully convinced in my own mind it was okay, "a little wine for my stomach".

In the flesh I still don't find it sinful in and of itself. But oh my goodness I had NO idea what it would truly cause spiritually, there's a MUCH bigger picture here, it has completely cut me off from going to minister at the jail. All the guys I was talking to I just can't show up. What a HORRIBLE example of Jesus I made. A stumbling block for my brother, it hurts so bad in ways I've never felt. I morn for my complete stupidity and letting people down, that's just a side effect, I have caused myself to not be aloud to go see them to proclaim His truth. But He doesn't need me I know, and the amazing work He's doing in there He will continue. A guy from my church literally just started doing the same thing, like a replacement, almost like God has a plan or something. I trust Him so much, and know He is the truth, but man I am ashamed and have some hard confessing ahead of me still. There will be a lot of tears and some hard things to face, but I lifted this substance too high and legal or illegal, it's time to turn from it and worry more about Him.

I'm sorry for the "on and on", but that's just what's on my heart now, but I fully agree with what you wrote and praise Jesus name even with my poor example and hypocritical lips, because where else am I going to go?
 
DustyRhodes

DustyRhodes

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Jimbone said:
Thank God for His indescribable goodness, especially with what He's teaching me right now. I am so grateful for a Father that loves me enough to discipline me. He has open my eye's even further through this huge, embarrassing, and very painful situation I created for myself by lifting a substance too high (no pun intended), and was only thinking of justifying it in the flesh, and thinking nothing about the spiritual impact it could have. I got arrested for poss. under 20 grams of marijuana and paraphernalia and oh man what a foolish careless, spiritually thoughtless mess I've made. Wow does it hurt. Not because of the fleshly consequences. As far as me smoking the way I did, with thanksgiving, in total moderation (I actually would see how little I could smoke each time, not that it matters ), fully convinced in my own mind it was okay, "a little wine for my stomach".

In the flesh I still don't find it sinful in and of itself. But oh my goodness I had NO idea what it would truly cause spiritually, there's a MUCH bigger picture here, it has completely cut me off from going to minister at the jail. All the guys I was talking to I just can't show up. What a HORRIBLE example of Jesus I made. A stumbling block for my brother, it hurts so bad in ways I've never felt. I morn for my complete stupidity and letting people down, that's just a side effect, I have caused myself to not be aloud to go see them to proclaim His truth. But He doesn't need me I know, and the amazing work He's doing in there He will continue. A guy from my church literally just started doing the same thing, like a replacement, almost like God has a plan or something. I trust Him so much, and know He is the truth, but man I am ashamed and have some hard confessing ahead of me still. There will be a lot of tears and some hard things to face, but I lifted this substance too high and legal or illegal, it's time to turn from it and worry more about Him.

I'm sorry for the "on and on", but that's just what's on my heart now, but I fully agree with what you wrote and praise Jesus name even with my poor example and hypocritical lips, because where else am I going to go?
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Thanks for that response and God bless you
 
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FriendlyTalk

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DustyRhodes said:
There is no
scripture that says we can take some days off for ourselves
and release God from our life and do our own will. Our will
needs to be His will. If we don't surrender all of ourselves to
God, then we are cheating ourselves.
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I have a viewpoint when it comes to this exact thing.
What I believe is that ones will, when the heart of stone is renewed, (new heart, new spirit) -
and one is born again - that the desires in your heart is according to the will of God,
and that gradually becomes clearer and clearer, the more spiritual one becomes.
(Away from flesh, to the new spiritual man, Christ in you.)

Because, before, when one was dead in the flesh, and walking after the lusts of the flesh,
one did not, and could not be pleasing to God. One desired, and followed these lusts,
that gave death as a reward.

And one does not desire this, when born again.

The psalms says
Psalm 37:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Delight thyself also in the Lord: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.

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James 4:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

<- I believe this, James 4:3 is written about the ones that are walking after, or are still in the flesh.

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Proverbs 11:23 King James Bible
The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.


This I believe, is because Jesus has renewed one, and only therefore are the desires good.
Because God is good.

So....

A new heart, - equals new desires.
Any thoughts?
 
DustyRhodes

DustyRhodes

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FriendlyTalk said:
I have a viewpoint when it comes to this exact thing.
What I believe is that ones will, when the heart of stone is renewed, (new heart, new spirit) -
and one is born again - that the desires in your heart is according to the will of God,
and that gradually becomes clearer and clearer, the more spiritual one becomes.
(Away from flesh, to the new spiritual man, Christ in you.)

Because, before, when one was dead in the flesh, and walking after the lusts of the flesh,
one did not, and could not be pleasing to God. One desired, and followed these lusts,
that gave death as a reward.

And one does not desire this, when born again.

The psalms says
Psalm 37:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Delight thyself also in the Lord: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.

-
James 4:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

<- I believe this, James 4:3 is written about the ones that are walking after, or are still in the flesh.

-
Proverbs 11:23 King James Bible
The desire of the righteous is only good: but the expectation of the wicked is wrath.


This I believe, is because Jesus has renewed one, and only therefore are the desires good.
Because God is good.

So....

A new heart, - equals new desires.
Any thoughts?
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Yes you have it right. Once we have become a new creation
there is no going back because there is nothing to go back
to. Only to move ahead in the glory of God
 
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