Westboro Baptist Church

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Adam4Eve

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Westboro Baptist Church - is their teaching actually wrong, or are they loathed by the world for speaking Biblical truth?
 

JaumeJ

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What is Westboro Baptist Church?

When we study the subject in depth we find there is no denominational church, that is a denomination with doctrines separating it from others, to which we couldpossibly put our Savior in. Jesus is not Baptist, RCC, Mormon, Methodist, COE, or anything other than the faith of Abraham, as all we are also who believe Him……...

What is this truth credited to the teaching of the WB entity?
 

Adam4Eve

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What is Westboro Baptist Church?

When we study the subject in depth we find there is no denominational church, that is a denomination with doctrines separating it from others, to which we couldpossibly put our Savior in. Jesus is not Baptist, RCC, Mormon, Methodist, COE, or anything other than the faith of Abraham, as all we are also who believe Him……...

What is this truth credited to the teaching of the WB entity?
It's an famous/infamous Church.
Look them up.
 

JaumeJ

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No thank you, I gave up investigating denominations in my teens, over fifty years ago.. If it is not worthy of your sharing, it certainly is not owrthy of study tht takes me away fromt he Wrord.
 

Nehemiah6

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Westboro Baptist Church - is their teaching actually wrong, or are they loathed by the world for speaking Biblical truth?
There are some very serious issues with WBC. Their website is godhatesfags.com and they have numerous hate messages which they are sending out as found on their web site:

"WBC engages in daily peaceful sidewalk demonstrations opposing the homosexual lifestyle of soul-damning, nation-destroying filth. We display large, colorful signs containing Bible words and sentiments, including: GOD HATES FAGS, FAGS HATE GOD, AIDS CURES FAGS, THANK GOD FOR AIDS, FAGS BURN IN HELL, GOD IS NOT MOCKED, FAGS ARE NATURE FREAKS, GOD GAVE FAGS UP, NO SPECIAL LAWS FOR FAGS, FAGS DOOM NATIONS, THANK GOD FOR DEAD SOLDIERS, FAG TROOPS, GOD BLEW UP THE TROOPS, GOD HATES AMERICA, AMERICA IS DOOMED, THE WORLD IS DOOMED, etc."

They are also committed to Five Point Calvinism, which is a False Gospel.
 

PennEd

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Westboro Baptist Church - is their teaching actually wrong, or are they loathed by the world for speaking Biblical truth?
Doesn't matter if their teaching is correct or not. NOWHERE are we instructed to hate anybody.

They also must have torn out 1 Corinthians 13 from their Bibles.
 

mailmandan

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My wife and I were driving past a group of people from Westboro Baptist Church who were picketing outside the Kauffman Center in Kansas City MO last summer and my wife rolled down the window said to the people who were picketing that you reach people for the Lord through love and not hate. Immediately they became belligerent and just wanted to fight and argue with her.

As stated in the article from gotquestions.org - "Love, gentleness, and respect are completely lacking in the methods and message of Westboro Baptist Church." :(
 

Adam4Eve

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These are all excellent points.

WBC use an approach that people don't tend to buy into.
But there is the opposite point which is that rarely do people like being told that what they're doing is fundamentally wrong.

So if they used a soft approach it might not make much difference.

My question is a somewhat direct question in that regardless of the manner in which they convey their message, are they right in what they say?
 

NayborBear

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Tough Love, or one might even call it "SHOCK GOSPEL" can come across as being quite repulsive, and cold to the "Y'all come to Jesus...PLEASE?" "Beggers for Jesus!" That "Churchianity" has "de-evolved" into!

Their "method, and tactics", it seems, stems from, "God doesn't NEED YOU!" "YOU, NEED God!" To the "demographic" "type of ground", in the different types of ground parable, that Jesus taught! Where the "thorns and weeds" have intertwined a person to such a degree, that the person, or persons, are not even visible! At which point? They no longer have "the ability" TO hear, let alone "respond!" And, are deemed, rightfully so? An ADVERSARY!

 

Adam4Eve

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Tough Love, or one might even call it "SHOCK GOSPEL" can come across as being quite repulsive, and cold to the "Y'all come to Jesus...PLEASE?" "Beggers for Jesus!" That "Churchianity" has "de-evolved" into!

Their "method, and tactics", it seems, stems from, "God doesn't NEED YOU!" "YOU, NEED God!" To the "demographic" "type of ground", in the different types of ground parable, that Jesus taught! Where the "thorns and weeds" have intertwined a person to such a degree, that the person, or persons, are not even visible! At which point? They no longer have "the ability" TO hear, let alone "respond!" And, are deemed, rightfully so? An ADVERSARY!
If you're going to type in English, please do so in such a way that demonstrates at least a basic grasp of the language, which doesn't require every other word to be in bold either.
 

JaumeJ

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Tough Love, or one might even call it "SHOCK GOSPEL" can come across as being quite repulsive, and cold to the "Y'all come to Jesus...PLEASE?" "Beggers for Jesus!" That "Churchianity" has "de-evolved" into!

Their "method, and tactics", it seems, stems from, "God doesn't NEED YOU!" "YOU, NEED God!" To the "demographic" "type of ground", in the different types of ground parable, that Jesus taught! Where the "thorns and weeds" have intertwined a person to such a degree, that the person, or persons, are not even visible! At which point? They no longer have "the ability" TO hear, let alone "respond!" And, are deemed, rightfully so? An ADVERSARY!

Thank you for the nice post with explanation for someone such as I...
 

Adstar

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Westboro Baptist Church - is their teaching actually wrong, or are they loathed by the world for speaking Biblical truth?
They preach hate towards people.. Jesus said love even your enemy.. So they are teaching in rebellion against the Word of God..

Yes we should hate sin that is good.. But when we have the sinner we are not following Jesus...
 

Adstar

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They preach hate towards people.. Jesus said love even your enemy.. So they are teaching in rebellion against the Word of God..

Yes we should hate sin that is good.. But when we hate the sinner we are not following Jesus...
Doh :mad: I have fixed the quote.. from have to hate.

Yeah i should have read the post before posting but sometimes i forget grrrrr..
 

NayborBear

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They preach hate towards people.. Jesus said love even your enemy.. So they are teaching in rebellion against the Word of God..

Yes we should hate sin that is good.. But when we have the sinner we are not following Jesus...
Yep! You sure got a good handle on the english language! Doncha? :rolleyes:
 

Lanolin

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These are all excellent points.

WBC use an approach that people don't tend to buy into.
But there is the opposite point which is that rarely do people like being told that what they're doing is fundamentally wrong.

So if they used a soft approach it might not make much difference.

My question is a somewhat direct question in that regardless of the manner in which they convey their message, are they right in what they say?
I dont think their protest signage is right or even biblical. 'Fag' isnt in the Bible but maybe they used that term cos its short and fits on a sign.

The sign God gives people isnt a literal sign as such with slogans on it that you wave around. Its Jesus Himself.
 
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jaybird88

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are the WBC really Christians?
if i hated Christians and had a lot of money, i would find a group just like WBC and give them all the funding they wanted, watch them grow, gain a following and then watch all the damage they did to the Christian faith by making Christians look like a bunch of imbeciles.
they do more damage than good and someones going to tell me they dont know that, not a chance.