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Not sure what you are asking.....but God gives the gift of salvation to those who have repented (have had a change of mind away from dead works to Christ)
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Not sure what you are asking.....but God gives the gift of salvation to those who have repented (have had a change of mind away from dead works to Christ)
The act of disobedience that will keep a person from being saved is not obeying the gospel by refusing to believe the gospel. (Romans 10:16; 1:16)
I saw a picture while reading your post. We are "in" the perfect One, Yeshua Messiah. This is the robe of righteousness. Then while being in Him, Holy Spirit teaches us the ways of our Lord, and we practice righteousness as we "do". And it can be little things just like Dcon said. This is the purging that Peter spoke of which is perfecting us or bringing us to maturity.
We are completely safe in Jesus as we grow in the knowledge of Him.
...If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 1 Timothy 6:3-5
...Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; FOR THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL. Isaiah 5:20-24
...If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has TRAMPLED THE SON OF GOD UNDER FOOT, who has treated as an unholy thing THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT THAT SANCTIFIED HIM, and who has INSULTED THE SPIRIT OF GRACE? Hebrews 10:26-29
.. Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, WHAT GOOD THING MUST I DO TO GET ETERNAL LIFE?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. IF YOU WANT TO ENTER LIFE, OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS.”
...WHAT DO WE GAIN BY CARRYING OUT HIS REQUIREMENTS? Malachi 3:13-18
OSAS teaches that faith ALONE saves without any sort of righteous works including OBEDIENCE TO GOD'S COMMANDS. And ONCE SAVED, you are ALWAYS SAVED.
God commanded us to LOVE God and LOVE one another.
Obeying these commands and teaching others to do so is just as filthy rags and have no bearing in our salvation according to some on this thread.
But the Bible teaches us otherwise.
...It has given me great joy to find some of your children walking in the truth, just as the Father commanded us. And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And THIS IS LOVE: THAT WE WALK IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS. As you have heard from the beginning, HIS COMMAND IS that you WALK IN LOVE. 2 John 1:4-6
...LOVE is the fulfillment of the LAW. Romans 13:10
...The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Galatians 5:6
...if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:1-13
...WHAT IF SOME DID NOT HAVE FAITH? Will their lack of faith NULLIFY GOD'S FAITHFULNESS? Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.” Romans 3:3-4
You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did... You see that a person is justified by what he does and NOT BY FAITH ALONE... As the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD. James 2:22-26
...For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ NOT ONLY TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but also TO SUFFER FOR HIM, Philippians 1:29
...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them. Ephesians 5:6-7
Some of us need to be aware that we shall all bear our own judgment, and that we are called to proclaim deliverance. Well if we are called,
...and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you WISE FOR SALVATION THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be THOROUGHLY EQUIPPED FOR EVERY GOOD WORKSV. 2 Timothy 3:15-17
...The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEARTS and turn, and I would heal them.’ But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it. “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and DOES NOT UNDERSTAND IT, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path. The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away. The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful. But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and UNDERSTANDS IT. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”
The Parable of the Weeds
Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’” Matthew 13:10-30
JESUS did not teach that "apart from OSAS", the entire bible can't be understood.
Can you show me where in the bible i can find such teaching?
If you can't then you have believed a FALSE MAN MADE DOCTRINE.
...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them. Ephesians 5:6-7
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“It is finished” is tetelestai, an accounting term that means “paid in full.”
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That is saved in full, complete, done to the uttermost, irrevocable...complete assurance for those who are born again in Him.
End of story...I have nothing more to say.
Take it up with the Holy Spirit, only the Spirit can lead you into all Truth...if you are truly seeking that is.
Yes, the person who thinks they can add to the work of Jesus is deceived according to everything Paul writes.
I looked at the definition of kingdom because it's not saying heaven. It's the foundation of power. It refers to Acts 3:7. What I believe this may be saying here, that all these things named will keep one from inheriting the same power of signs and wonders that Jesus moved in.
After all, the new covenant is the will of inheritance that Jesus gives to His "brothers".
AMEN.....and if a debt has been settled...there is nothing else to pay......simple as.......
AMEN..........he keeps peddling the same fallacies over and over and over......that is religion for you......blinds one to the truth and then brainwashes one like a zombie...........
Jesus defined the phrase “inherit the kingdom” for us.
Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Matthew 25:34
Those on His left hand who do not inherit the kingdom will hear these awful words -
Then He will also say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:41
JPT
He continues to confuse descriptive passages of scripture with prescriptive passages of scripture and remains under the delusion that he will inherit the kingdom of God based on the merits of his performance/works and not through faith in Christ alone. (John 3:18; Acts 10:43; 16:31; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Romans 1:16; 4:4-6; 10:4; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..)
and why did Jesus tell them to depart?
because they did not feed the hungry, clothe the poor, visit the sick and those in prison.
things that all true believers will do.
notice , he did NOT say " you did not keep the Ten....'
Amen... because they did not feed the hungry, clothe the poor, visit the sick and those in prison.
I agree.
Unfortunately this context is from the previous verses -
Let’s look -
“For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. Matthew 25:14
These talents were given to His own servants. Not unbelievers.
“But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ Matthew 26:26-30
And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’
The context of Matthew 25 is about what He will do on the Day of Judgement when He returns, to gather His people, His own servants, to Judge each one according to their deeds.
Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
for I was hungry and you gave Me food;
I was thirsty and you gave Me drink;
I was a stranger and you took Me in;
I was naked and you clothed Me;
I was sick and you visited Me;
I was in prison and you came to Me.’
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
for I was hungry and you gave Me no food;
I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
I was a stranger and you did not take Me in,
naked and you did not clothe Me,
sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
These on the left hand buried their talents and did nothing with the love and forgiveness and life of Jesus they were given.
And let our people also learn to maintain good works, to meet urgent needs, that they may not be unfruitful. Titus 3:14
Unfortunately their are indeed those who are unfruitful Christians who do nothing with the life of Jesus.
JPT