ARE WE THERE YET? 666

[Hevosmies]

Well I did. I can guarantee you this guy Carl is a post-tribber lol. As are most in the comments.

 

[iamsoandso]

Something the whole world uses to buy and sell with, not just several of the big nations while the others use old paper and metal coins but something every nation uses to buy and sell with all the way around the globe.

 

[dcontroversal]

I think the "mark" will NOT be something elusive. I believe we won't wonder if it is the "mark", we will know exactly what it is.

I agree with this......there will be no doubt and he will CAUSE ALL that will not receive the love of the truth to take it.....

And he causeth all, both small "young" and great "OLD", rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

4160 [e] ποιεῖ
poiei it causesV-PIA-3S <----NOTICE the words "IT CAUSES" translated HE..................

poieó: to make, do
Original Word: ποιέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: poieó
Phonetic Spelling: (poy-eh'-o)
Definition: to make, do
Usage: (a) I make, manufacture, construct, (b) I do, act, cause.

 

[dcontroversal]

Several!!

First of all, I always believed the USA was what Revelation 13 meant. I did think the 2 horns represented both the USA and UK since the USA was an extension of the UK and remained allies all of this time. I even considered the USA being Babylon due to so many descriptions of wealth, ships in the harbor, etc etc etc.

But the real reason I always believed this, was due to the USA's founding fathers. Contrary to belief, most of the founding fathers were atheists, deists, non believers associated with the Free Mason's. Even George Washington ended his letters to the "Grand Architect of the Universe or Supreme Architect of the Universe."

If you do research and read the letters between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, you will see how they all were atheists and Washington was a deist.

Washington's own pastor said George attended service every Sunday, but when it came time for Communion to remember Jesus, Washington would get up and leave and never once participated. His pastor believed Washington saw himself as equal to Christ, which makes him a deist.

Ironically, during this era (called the Enlightenment), these founding fathers are revealed as also being followers of Voltaire. Voltaire led a movement to discredit the idea of God and many socialists like our founding fathers, accepted Voltaire's reasoning.

Another piece of evidence anyone can read, comes from the biggest traitor to his own nation, a man named Thomas Paine. He wrote a book immediately after America gained her independence from defeating England, called "The Age of Reason." Within this book, it explains how the founding fathers tricked the Colony's churches and members to going to war with England over religious freedoms. But in reality, it was to separate the church from the state to create a Democracy. He explained how none of them believed in God, and they now have a nation based upon idealism and reasoning, not based upon religion and God.

To further that evidence (the claim by Paine in his book), let's take a closer look at the "Treaty of Tripoli." The most famous claim is made within it. It states, "The government of the United States of America is not in any sense [[founded on the Christian religion]].' And to make it even more significant, 'The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.' That was ratified by the United States Senate without debate unanimously in 1797.

So the USA was not ever founded on the principles of God after all, they were founded on the principles of the Reasoning by those claiming to be Enlightened.

When you understand who the founding fathers actually were, it is no surprise to believe the USA will lead us into Tribulation, by the influence of Satan. After all, in today's day and age, Silicon Valley is working relentlessly on the new Quantum computer. It will be the most powerful system that will be able to control world wide banking, world wide medical, the world wide government.

And we are literally just days away from that being an actual reality..

Look at the dome in Washington <---the DISTRICT of COLUMBIA (Roman GODDESS).....the apotheosis of George Washington is depicted....

 

[iamsoandso]

Revelation 19:20 ,,, "deceived" but only read by those who are Christian because it's not in the Koran or in the Jewish faith nor any other religion but the Christian bible. So most every faith will not see it as dangerous except for the Christians.

 

[Hevosmies]

Spoiler to Americans: Nobody in the Bible wrote about USA. Not everything is about 'Murrica. Revelation 13 might be world-wide, sure, but let me guarantee double promise you that nobody in the 1st century had an across the pond empire in mind.

It was all about the roman empire, the middle-east and that region. And that is where it all wll play out, especially around Jerusalem

 

[dcontroversal]

Spoiler to Americans: Nobody in the Bible wrote about you. Not everything is about 'Murrica. Revelation 13 might be world-wide, sure, but let me guarantee double promise you that nobody in the 1st century had an across the pond empire in mind.

It was all about the roman empire, the middle-east and that region.

Honestly study the Hindermost of the Nations, the Lady of the Kingdoms and all 80 characteristics applied unto the Prodigy of Babylon.......be honest with the facts and then do the math........let me know how that works out for you and MAKE SURE to LOOK all the words up from the ORIGINAL LANGUAGES.....and pay attention to phrases like...

She MOUNTS her defenses to the UTMOST HEAVENS
HAMMER of the WHOLE EARTH
OVERSHADOWS with WINGS
MAKES war from the AIR
SENDS AMBASSADORS by the seas and in SHIPS

You know.....stuff like that...................

 

[iamsoandso]

It's always the most popular opinion to look into the past and say the mark was something back then or to think that it's something their gonna do in the future. As long as it's something that don't affect us and we can talk about it with no worry and never open our pocket books and examine how we buy and sell it's ok. It's kind of like seeing commercials about starving people and saying "those poor people" and getting the remote and changing the channel and turning up the a.c from our easy chair's.

 

[iamsoandso]

Honestly study the Hindermost of the Nations, the Lady of the Kingdoms and all 80 characteristics applied unto the Prodigy of Babylon.......be honest with the facts and then do the math........let me know how that works out for you and MAKE SURE to LOOK all the words up from the ORIGINAL LANGUAGES.....and pay attention to phrases like...

She MOUNTS her defenses to the UTMOST HEAVENS
HAMMER of the WHOLE EARTH
OVERSHADOWS with WINGS
MAKES war from the AIR
SENDS AMBASSADORS by the seas and in SHIPS

You know.....stuff like that...................

"America the Babylon" from the early 90"s ,,,interesting to read,,from Allen Best I think(cant remember his name,lol)..

 

[iamsoandso]

"America the Babylon" from the early 90"s ,,,interesting to read,,from Allen Best I think(cant remember his name,lol)..

Stewart Best,,,lol now I remember

 

[dcontroversal]

"America the Babylon" from the early 90"s ,,,interesting to read,,from Allen Best I think(cant remember his name,lol)..

I spent a few years studying it.......I cannot get around the 10.5 billion to 1 math when all 80 characteristics are taken into account.....to put that in perspective....

300 million to 1 odds on a lottery
190 million to 1 of getting hit by lightning on any given day

10.5 billion to 1 which nation it is when all 80 are applied unto the nations of today......

 

[iamsoandso]

I spent a few years studying it.......I cannot get around the 10.5 billion to 1 math when all 80 characteristics are taken into account.....to put that in perspective....

300 million to 1 odds on a lottery
190 million to 1 of getting hit by lightning on any given day

10.5 billion to 1 which nation it is when all 80 are applied unto the nations of today......

Yes I remember the articles about it also and the www pages trying to change it and take credit(Sherry Shriner and others,lol).. It's not very well known but should be when examining whats written about the Jews/Israel that as many Jews/Hebrews live in the US as in the state of Israel so anything written about them(where the carcass is..) would have to effect the nation where they actually live(reside) which is the US. The population of Jews liveing in the US is about the same as the whole state of Israel(flucuates fom year to year).

 

[dcontroversal]

Yes I remember the articles about it also and the www pages trying to change it and take credit(Sherry Shriner and others,lol).. It's not very well known but should be when examining whats written about the Jews/Israel that as many Jews/Hebrews live in the US as in the state of Israel so anything written about them(where the carcass is..) would have to effect the nation where they actually live(reside) which is the US. The population of Jews liveing in the US is about the same as the whole state of Israel(flucuates fom year to year).

I know and God calls them to come out from HER midst and uses a civil war as the opening salvo and sign to flee....leader against leader and violence in the land......technically we are already there, but since she will reap what she has sown...it stands to reason that we will have a second civil war which many see brewing as we type....

 

[NayborBear]

The "key" in unveiling "the root/s" concerning "Mystery Babylon?" Follow "the MONEY!"

 

[iamsoandso]

I know and God calls them to come out from HER midst and uses a civil war as the opening salvo and sign to flee....leader against leader and violence in the land......technically we are already there, but since she will reap what she has sown...it stands to reason that we will have a second civil war which many see brewing as we type....

Yep somewhere in the archives of cc in a thread I made a list of things(technological/and not) that were invented in the US that have spread worldwide. If there is a nation to blame for pollution,morality ect. based on the inventions and ideas that came from them(meaning God would hold them responsible for them) then a list of things that came from the US is eyeopening.

All from US),,,Discovery of electricity, light bulb, Radio,Television,Automobile, NASCAR,Nuclear bomb/power, Hollywood, electronics,computer,telephone,credit card/debit card, Colt,Smith and Wesson, Rap music,County music,Rock and Roll, electric guitar, NFL ,vacuum tube,airplane ect.ect. ,,,,just about everything except peanut butter and the steam engine originated in the US and spread to the world so whose to be held accountable for them?. (I left a lot off the list I know,lol)

 

[dcontroversal]

The "key" in unveiling "the root/s" concerning "Mystery Babylon?" Follow "the MONEY!"

It is not Mystery Babylon.......it is ----> Mystery, BABYLON, that MEGA CITY x 6 and it happens to be the chief city of the Prodigy "DAUGHTER" of BABYLON.....with 80 characteristics found blended in with Classical Babylon of OLD.....in some 8 or 9 books of the bible and some 13 to 14 chapters...........the problem is simple.....MANY, yea MOST, will not be honest with the 80 characteristics found and the NATION to which they apply.....................now that is the truth!

 

[NayborBear]

Daniel 12
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and "knowledge/WICKEDNESS" SHALL be increased. (shhh!....follow the money)

 

[iamsoandso]

Yep Air conditioning 1902, Willis Carrier,Buffalo NY(US),,,Refrigerator Thomas Moore,1802 Brookeville Maryland (US),,,James T. Russel,compact disc (US) Isnt it strange where it all comes form? Why blame Peru?

 

[JaumeJ]

Yes shhhhhh. We must bear with being deaf, dumb and blind at times. Lately, almost all of the time. Thanks for the meaningful song..

 

[iamsoandso]

Frank X McNamara first credit card and we know how far that has come,US,1950... The middle name of Frank X McNamara should give a clue because it is not an initial his middle name was/is (X)...