Look what flew out of Israel into Syria

[posthuman]

Why do you want me to see other ways of achieving the same answer,

that's not what i'm doing. i want you to see the difference between astrology and astronomy.

 

[garee]

OK, I cannot do anything with that. But let me ask one thing. Why do you want me to see other ways of achieving the same answer, unless you yourself, also see's actual mathematics within scripture. The entire Bible literally has God's direct point of view, when He says, "In the Beginning!!" There is no mistake in what God just said there. The clock was officially set there. To the point we have achieved in His knowledge, that we understand that this literally means, "God has officially clicked the stopwatch to Go, and the [Hour Glass] on the time to where I am going to End, begins!!

And from there, it was all about mathematics. How long does each creation live, how long does man live, how many generations of men. How many generations of everything. And this all pertains to the end.

If your mathematics reveals other views about the Word of God, then I am interested!!

Its not so much a matter of mathematics using human generations. God uses two kinds of beginnings generations or genesis's. One seen the temporal and the other not seen, eternal .

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corithians 4:18

The one seen represents the evil generation as natural un-converted man (no faith) and the second the generation or born again beginning of the new creation as the generation of those who do walk by the exclusive faith that comes from hearing God, the faith of Christ..

The generation of Christ as to the spiritual seed by which all men are born again after is shown in the genealogy of that spiritual seed.

Matthew 1 King James Version (KJV1 The book of the "generation of Jesus Christ", the son of David, the son of Abraham.

 

[posthuman]

Also equivalent of seeing the miracle of the Sun without a shade to take way the harmful effects of looking into the Sun. The Virgin Mary appeared to the children on May 13, 1917 as “a lady dressed in white, shining brighter than the sun, giving out rays of clear and intense light,” dos Santos wrote. She promised to come to the children on the 13th of each month.

 

[obedienttogod]

that's not what i'm doing. i want you to see the difference between astrology and astronomy.

But why?

I revealed factual proven theories by the mathematical formulas I use in my R&D Department. Why would you think I would be talking about either astrology or astronomy when pertaining to the mathematics surrounding scripture? In my opinion, astrology is like witchcraft. Astronomy is a proven field of science. I just don't get why you would assume I was speaking of either?

 

[obedienttogod]

Its not so much a matter of mathematics using human generations. God uses two kinds of beginnings generations or genesis's. One seen the temporal and the other not seen, eternal .

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corithians 4:18

The one seen represents the evil generation as natural un-converted man (no faith) and the second the generation or born again beginning of the new creation as the generation of those who do walk by the exclusive faith that comes from hearing God, the faith of Christ..

The generation of Christ as to the spiritual seed by which all men are born again after is shown in the genealogy of that spiritual seed.

Matthew 1 King James Version (KJV1 The book of the "generation of Jesus Christ", the son of David, the son of Abraham.

And both beginnings have an end, when we think in terms of humanity. Therefore, whenever you have an end, it's a guarantee you have an absolute beginning. And from start to finish everything has been calculated by God. Nothing is ever random with God. The only possible time something could be random with God, is when our faith is enough to change what God had already in motion. Other than that, everything is clearly calculated in terms of how God chooses our birth, our parents, death, cause of death (for the believer)(typically, a believer is not going to commit suicide or do drugs and die from an overdose), etc...

 

[posthuman]

But why?

I revealed factual proven theories by the mathematical formulas I use in my R&D Department. Why would you think I would be talking about either astrology or astronomy when pertaining to the mathematics surrounding scripture? In my opinion, astrology is like witchcraft. Astronomy is a proven field of science. I just don't get why you would assume I was speaking of either?

how would one develop factual proven theories about the mathematics surrounding scripture?

 

[obedienttogod]

how would one develop factual proven theories about the mathematics surrounding scripture?


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Good question. There is so much that we actually do not know about God, to make any attempt at concluding anything beyond what scripture informs us. But what we do know, is that God calculates.

He, most likely, while in Heaven one day, decided to create a vast universe that basically supplies itself through gases, plasma, black matter, and is an always consuming energy (like a nuclear reactor -mathematics). From our own galaxy to the vast endless count of others, they are recognizable by a like formation pattern (mathematics). Controlled by the Laws of Physics (mathematics), the stars, planets, moons all work within the gravitational pull and inertia created by the size of the sun (Sol)(mathematics).

And then God chooses to make the planet Earth. But through His infinite Wisdom and Knowledge, He knew the Earth had to be a certain distance from the sun to sustain the right amount of sunlight, heat, the perfect atmosphere to inhabit life (all calculated by mathematics).

And then from there, God created lifeforms in the way of trees and plants to provide the right mixture for us to breathe (mathematics). He knew we had to eat and being ""vegan"" is only beneficial to animals, so He created carnivores and herbivores to which humans consume both (this is another calculation from God = mathematics). Then of course, He created mankind. And in all of His creation (things I just listed), He put an expiration date on (mathematics)(He knew Adam would sin and created Adam with "free will"(God calculated man to sin and would need a Savior - mathematics).

God even put an expiration date on the planet Earth. God also put His plan into action knowing it would end at the Great White Throne Judgement (mathematics calculating time).

There are so many mathematical probabilities within God's reasoning and His calculations. But we are at a complete loss, due to lacking the knowledge and preciseness to know where to begin and where to end.

 

[posthuman]

Good question. There is so much that we actually do not know about God, to make any attempt at concluding anything beyond what scripture informs us. But what we do know, is that God calculates.

He, most likely, while in Heaven one day, decided to create a vast universe that basically supplies itself through gases, plasma, black matter, and is an always consuming energy (like a nuclear reactor -mathematics). From our own galaxy to the vast endless count of others, they are recognizable by a like formation pattern (mathematics). Controlled by the Laws of Physics (mathematics), the stars, planets, moons all work within the gravitational pull and inertia created by the size of the sun (Sol)(mathematics).

And then God chooses to make the planet Earth. But through His infinite Wisdom and Knowledge, He knew the Earth had to be a certain distance from the sun to sustain the right amount of sunlight, heat, the perfect atmosphere to inhabit life (all calculated by mathematics).

And then from there, God created lifeforms in the way of trees and plants to provide the right mixture for us to breathe (mathematics). He knew we had to eat and being ""vegan"" is only beneficial to animals, so He created carnivores and herbivores to which humans consume both (this is another calculation from God = mathematics). Then of course, He created mankind. And in all of His creation (things I just listed), He put an expiration date on (mathematics)(He knew Adam would sin and created Adam with "free will"(God calculated man to sin and would need a Savior - mathematics).

God even put an expiration date on the planet Earth. God also put His plan into action knowing it would end at the Great White Throne Judgement (mathematics calculating time).

There are so many mathematical probabilities within God's reasoning and His calculations. But we are at a complete loss, due to lacking the knowledge and preciseness to know where to begin and where to end.

uh huh.

but what about simply expressing the idea of attaching meaning to the product of chapter-times-verse in a formal, justified way and proving or disproving that it's an actual, meaningful and useful relationship?

how do you do that?

 

[garee]

And both beginnings have an end, when we think in terms of humanity. Therefore, whenever you have an end, it's a guarantee you have an absolute beginning. And from start to finish everything has been calculated by God. Nothing is ever random with God. The only possible time something could be random with God, is when our faith is enough to change what God had already in motion. Other than that, everything is clearly calculated in terms of how God chooses our birth, our parents, death, cause of death (for the believer)(typically, a believer is not going to commit suicide or do drugs and die from an overdose), etc...

The Hidden creation that was created in the beginning, as two Genesis's has no end . When we born again we are given a new spirit that could never die.

Believers do sin . All sin carries the same wage eternal damnation. If we start compartmentalizing we then begin our own kind of salvation program like that of Catholics who do it proudly . Mortal and venial. Another gospel, another Christ.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

 

[obedienttogod]

uh huh.

but what about simply expressing the idea of attaching meaning to the product of chapter-times-verse in a formal, justified way and proving or disproving that it's an actual, meaningful and useful relationship?

how do you do that?

That is just a process of one scripture confirming another scripture.

Just like we say Revelation's confirms Daniel. We can obviously add Matthew in there, and I would also propose adding the Book of Enoch as well.

The chapter times verse (mathematical formula) method, locates other scriptures from elsewhere within the Bible, that actually is confirming the verse used/found in Psalm by this method. And that is all it is doing.

 

[obedienttogod]

The Hidden creation that was created in the beginning, as two Genesis's has no end . When we born again we are given a new spirit that could never die.

Believers do sin . All sin carries the same wage eternal damnation. If we start compartmentalizing we then begin our own kind of salvation program like that of Catholics who do it proudly . Mortal and venial. Another gospel, another Christ.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

The heavenly realm creation before the universe, earth and man creation... There is an end to portion of that realm, to the specific fallen of that realm. They will be cast into Eternal Damnation forever. Before the legion of demons being granted by Yeshua to be cast into the herd of swine, asked Yeshua, if He was there to torture them before the Appointed Time. So, they were well aware their freedoms are going to end. And it seems, they have some knowledge to know when the end is going to be by the wording of what they asked "Before the Appointed Time."

In it all reveals God's calculations of the end. To them, it's the end of their freedom before being tortured forever.

 

[garee]

The heavenly realm creation before the universe, earth and man creation... There is an end to portion of that realm, to the specific fallen of that realm. They will be cast into Eternal Damnation forever. Before the legion of demons being granted by Yeshua to be cast into the herd of swine, asked Yeshua, if He was there to torture them before the Appointed Time. So, they were well aware their freedoms are going to end. And it seems, they have some knowledge to know when the end is going to be by the wording of what they asked "Before the Appointed Time."

In it all reveals God's calculations of the end. To them, it's the end of their freedom before being tortured forever.

The heavenly realm, eternity, is not a creation. But is supernatural the Holy of God

I would offer, the first creation when God by faith said; let there be and there was. It made up the one creation of two beginnings. One having a end of time and the other eternal incorruptible.

It would seem to reflect the portion of scripture below.

heavens (plural) represent more than one
generations (plural) more than one beginning
they (plural) represent more than one
day (singular) not different times they were created


Genesis 2 King James Version (KJV) Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

Appointed Time."refers to this realm of heavens and earth "under the sun and moon" the temporal time keeper for this generation .

The next is without time...... eternal

 

[obedienttogod]

Angels are not created, according to you?

 

[posthuman]

The chapter times verse (mathematical formula) method, locates other scriptures from elsewhere within the Bible, that actually is confirming the verse used/found in Psalm by this method. And that is all it is doing.

you really shouldn't call it a formula if it only works for 2 out of the 31,102 verses in the Bible.
you never did tell me what is 'confirmed' by multiplying 125*3 ((in re: Psalm 125:3))
you never did tell me if the same thing is 'confirmed' by Psalm 25:15 & Psalm 75:5 ((since 25*15 = 75*5 = 375))

how about this:

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.​

(Psalm 9:17) ​

​

From the wicked that oppress me, from my deadly enemies, who compass me about.​

(Psalm 17:9) ​

​

For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.​

(Psalm 51:3) ​

9*17 = 17*9 = 51*3 = 153

Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken. ​

(John 21:11) ​

can you explain what i'm looking at?
i understand that you know & use some 6th grade geometry. do you understand that you need more math than that to establish that multiplying chapters times verses is a legitimate 'method' of Bible study?

 

[posthuman]

The chapter times verse (mathematical formula) method, locates other scriptures from elsewhere within the Bible, that actually is confirming the verse used/found in Psalm by this method. And that is all it is doing.

For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.
(Psalm 35:7) ​

​

Wherefore should I fear in the days of evil, when the iniquity of my heels shall compass me about?
(Psalm 49:5) ​

35*7 = 49*5 = 245

They had 736 horses, 245 mules
(Ezra 2:66) ​

what am i looking at?

 

[posthuman]

The chapter times verse (mathematical formula) method, locates other scriptures from elsewhere within the Bible, that actually is confirming the verse used/found in Psalm by this method. And that is all it is doing.

That he should still live for ever, ​

and not see corruption
(Psalm 49:8) ​

​

Shall they escape by iniquity? ​

in thine anger cast down the people, O God
(Psalm 56:7) ​

​

Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: ​

make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise
(Psalm 98:4) ​

49*8 = 56*7 = 98*4 = 392

All the temple servants and the sons of Solomon’s servants were 392.
(Ezra 2:58)​

​

what am i looking at?

thanks

 

[posthuman]

......the tightest tolerance I ever had to hold was .0002 of an inch.......and for those reading that do not know how tight this is....<--2 tenths of a thousandth of an inch....

last year i was running a room full of 6 axis Zeiss CMM robots, calibrating each probe of each arm every week to within 0.0015 mm
that place had two other units that can do better, but they don't see much use. why split microns lol?

neat stuff

I don't know who you are

i'm post; i'm a mathematician.

 

[posthuman]

Good question, because not every verse in Psalms results in something concrete.

if the majority of the machining you did at work turned out to be no good, how long do you figure you'd keep your job?

 

[obedienttogod]

you really shouldn't call it a formula if it only works for 2 out of the 31,102 verses in the Bible.
you never did tell me what is 'confirmed' by multiplying 125*3 ((in re: Psalm 125:3))
you never did tell me if the same thing is 'confirmed' by Psalm 25:15 & Psalm 75:5 ((since 25*15 = 75*5 = 375))

how about this:

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
(Psalm 9:17)

From the wicked that oppress me, from my deadly enemies, who compass me about.
(Psalm 17:9)

For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.
(Psalm 51:3)
9*17 = 17*9 = 51*3 = 153

Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
(John 21:11)
can you explain what i'm looking at?
i understand that you know & use some 6th grade geometry. do you understand that you need more math than that to establish that multiplying chapters times verses is a legitimate 'method' of Bible study?



For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.
(Psalm 35:7)

Wherefore should I fear in the days of evil, when the iniquity of my heels shall compass me about?
(Psalm 49:5)
35*7 = 49*5 = 245

They had 736 horses, 245 mules
(Ezra 2:66)
what am i looking at?



That he should still live for ever,
and not see corruption
(Psalm 49:8)

Shall they escape by iniquity?
in thine anger cast down the people, O God
(Psalm 56:7)

Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth:
make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise
(Psalm 98:4)
49*8 = 56*7 = 98*4 = 392

All the temple servants and the sons of Solomon’s servants were 392.
(Ezra 2:58)

what am i looking at?

thanks

I explained it incorrectly. Its the chapter number times how many verses are in that particular chapter. Chapter 1 of Psalms has 6 verses (1*6=6).

 

[obedienttogod]

if the majority of the machining you did at work turned out to be no good, how long do you figure you'd keep your job?

If that was the case, no way would my employer let me be anywhere near the the most precise machine in any machine shop, the jig grinder. And my tolerances and the shop guarantee is we can hold true position to 0.00008 ( +/- 80 millionths).
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