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Jesus was teaching his disciples, maybe they had to pray it a few times for it to sink in how to pray and what to pray as they may have never prayed before.
For those new to the Lord..and I remember before I knew Him never having prayed before in my life. That He teaches us HOW to pray is great. I mean when faced with the almighty God how do you address Him?
The Lords prayer shows us just what our God can do.
Many people treat God as a genie, I had been in some prayer groups where people prayed all sorts of things for themselves. Give me this and that. GOd I want a house, car, husband, child, money etc. I was thinking..huh..is God an atm for thats how you are treating Him.
For those new to the Lord..and I remember before I knew Him never having prayed before in my life. That He teaches us HOW to pray is great. I mean when faced with the almighty God how do you address Him?
The Lords prayer shows us just what our God can do.
Many people treat God as a genie, I had been in some prayer groups where people prayed all sorts of things for themselves. Give me this and that. GOd I want a house, car, husband, child, money etc. I was thinking..huh..is God an atm for thats how you are treating Him.
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I think maybe its a a prayer everyone knows so when praying together well you cant go wrong.
Maybe those that pray by rote just arent yet confident praying.
I dont see any harm in praying prayers that others have prayed before in the Bible..book of psalms is full of heartfelt prayers. See psalm 17 and 90
Of course we can talk to God at anytime about our cares and concerns.
Maybe those that pray by rote just arent yet confident praying.
I dont see any harm in praying prayers that others have prayed before in the Bible..book of psalms is full of heartfelt prayers. See psalm 17 and 90
Of course we can talk to God at anytime about our cares and concerns.
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Praying by rote can be living and picturing the words of even Jesus, and opens the heart to God. That is very different from mindlessly repeating words.
David in the Psalms taught using the mind in Christian meditation, something we all should learn. Using prayers that were written by saints can be a guide to David's kind of meditation.
David in the Psalms taught using the mind in Christian meditation, something we all should learn. Using prayers that were written by saints can be a guide to David's kind of meditation.
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Hi WIbapist,
I believe it's a model.
Literal vs symbolic scripture's:
Here ALL literal
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; & every eye shall see him, & they also which pierced him: & all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen
Here symbolic
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
(NOTE: NOT wool or snow or a flame. BUT: "like wool" "as snow" "as a flame". Pay close attention, CONTEXT is always KEY.
Matt 6:7 Jesus say's: when ye pray, use not vain repetitions
(NOTE Don't use vain repetitions)
Matt 6: Jesus say's: After this manner
(NOTE: After this manner or pray like this - NOT PRAY THIS
The Lords prayer provides great insight
9 Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
(NOTE: To whom we address our prayers)
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
(NOTE: What is most important, in heaven or on earth = "God's will")
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
(NOTE: Real edible food; sure. More importantly - SPIRITUAL FOOD)
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
(NOTE: Ask forgiveness, however, to receive it. WE MUST ALSO FORGIVE)
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
(NOTE: The acknowledgement of just who: IS IN CHARGE & WHO EVERYTHING TRULY BELONGS TO)
Final prayer thought, it isn't our great words that God is looking for. It's an honest, true heart that's seeking HIS WILL that matters)
I believe it's a model.
Literal vs symbolic scripture's:
Here ALL literal
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; & every eye shall see him, & they also which pierced him: & all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen
Here symbolic
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
(NOTE: NOT wool or snow or a flame. BUT: "like wool" "as snow" "as a flame". Pay close attention, CONTEXT is always KEY.
Matt 6:7 Jesus say's: when ye pray, use not vain repetitions
(NOTE Don't use vain repetitions)
Matt 6: Jesus say's: After this manner
(NOTE: After this manner or pray like this - NOT PRAY THIS
The Lords prayer provides great insight
9 Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
(NOTE: To whom we address our prayers)
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
(NOTE: What is most important, in heaven or on earth = "God's will")
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
(NOTE: Real edible food; sure. More importantly - SPIRITUAL FOOD)
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
(NOTE: Ask forgiveness, however, to receive it. WE MUST ALSO FORGIVE)
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
(NOTE: The acknowledgement of just who: IS IN CHARGE & WHO EVERYTHING TRULY BELONGS TO)
Final prayer thought, it isn't our great words that God is looking for. It's an honest, true heart that's seeking HIS WILL that matters)
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I believe most who pray the prayer taught by dour Savior know and mean what they are saying.
When I pray this prayer I begin confessing I pray this prayer to honor Jesus, Yeshuia. Then I pray each line with understanding and personal intention. Perhaps many recit it rote, but not those who are in the Holy Spirit.
Here in Skpain I used to watch a lot of "soccer," and once when Sevilla was playing in Sevilla, the spectators recited the Our Father prayer out loud I was on the point of being offended knowing the many types of people saying it. Anyone can recit the Our Fadther, but again, I was upset.
Befofre the game was over one youg player dropped dead. I have not heard this being prayed agains since. Sorry, I should say recited.
When I pray this prayer I begin confessing I pray this prayer to honor Jesus, Yeshuia. Then I pray each line with understanding and personal intention. Perhaps many recit it rote, but not those who are in the Holy Spirit.
Here in Skpain I used to watch a lot of "soccer," and once when Sevilla was playing in Sevilla, the spectators recited the Our Father prayer out loud I was on the point of being offended knowing the many types of people saying it. Anyone can recit the Our Fadther, but again, I was upset.
Befofre the game was over one youg player dropped dead. I have not heard this being prayed agains since. Sorry, I should say recited.
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“And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words. “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. In this manner, therefore, pray:
Heres how and here's how not.
Jesus ends his answer " in this manner" a manner is a learned discipline. Although we all have at one time or another recited what is called the Lord's prayer this is not a dunk shot prayer but instruction on what it should contain.
Heres how and here's how not.
Jesus ends his answer " in this manner" a manner is a learned discipline. Although we all have at one time or another recited what is called the Lord's prayer this is not a dunk shot prayer but instruction on what it should contain.
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In a relationship, if I kept repeating the same words over and over again.................I don't think there would be any intimacy, growth or joy...........God may say something twice to establish it but, that's about it.
I say yes, the Lord's Prayer is a framework to guide our prayers.
In the Lord's Prayer, Jesus was showing us that His Father in Heaven is also our Father and we are to pray to the Father, acknowledge His holiness and highly esteem Him;
pray for people and things to be done according to the Father's Will and His Kingdom which is in Heaven and on Earth;
ask for food (physical and spiritual) which acknowledges our dependency on the Father for substance;
ask Him for forgiveness and understand that God requires us to forgive each other, too;
to help us overcome and resist the temptations of the flesh;
acknowledge that He delivers us from evil and we need to ask for His help;
acknowledge that it is ALL about the Father - His Kingdom, His Power and His Glory
Jesus came to the Earth to restore and reconcile us back to the Father in Heaven. It's ALL about our wonderful Father and His Gift to us His Son and His Spirit.
I say yes, the Lord's Prayer is a framework to guide our prayers.
In the Lord's Prayer, Jesus was showing us that His Father in Heaven is also our Father and we are to pray to the Father, acknowledge His holiness and highly esteem Him;
pray for people and things to be done according to the Father's Will and His Kingdom which is in Heaven and on Earth;
ask for food (physical and spiritual) which acknowledges our dependency on the Father for substance;
ask Him for forgiveness and understand that God requires us to forgive each other, too;
to help us overcome and resist the temptations of the flesh;
acknowledge that He delivers us from evil and we need to ask for His help;
acknowledge that it is ALL about the Father - His Kingdom, His Power and His Glory
Jesus came to the Earth to restore and reconcile us back to the Father in Heaven. It's ALL about our wonderful Father and His Gift to us His Son and His Spirit.
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