Women, women, women....

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Really annoying when guys say stuff like this because no one really knows for sure. No one has been both a man and a woman. So how could one know if it's harder for men than it is for women to say no? Everyone has a choice. Just because you're a guy doesn't mean you have to have sex before marriage.
The thread is from 2012 and justcus is banned.
 
Helen Gurley Brown died this week (of Cosmo magazine fame). She wrote a book years ago that had a tremendously negative impact upon young women and their virtue. It basically said - Hey the guys are all sleeping around with different women, so should we! Let's exercise our sexual freedom! .. Not realizing that such "freedom" becomes a bondage for both genders and has a very high price tag.

Christian or non-christian, it's still wrong outside the bonds of holy matrimony, male or female. When God says a thing is wrong, it's because He knows that it will either harm us or someone else. It's not for nothing.

Thank you for your respectful post, Perk. And thanks to the guys of this forum who, as a rule, treat women as godly men should.

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Not realizing that such "freedom" becomes a bondage for both genders and has a very high price tag.
Here's a question for the men. How do men become in bondage by this?
 
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Not realizing that such "freedom" becomes a bondage for both genders and has a very high price tag.
Here's a question for the men. How do men become in bondage by this?
Speaking as an ex wife of a habitual cheater...it can become a game, an obsession, or a man finds that he just can't perform without getting some "strange" on the side because being with another woman is exciting to him. He may not realize whether he's married or single that there will be consequences later. Married and caught he may tear his family apart. Single, he may find out commitment is impossible for him and he is dead to real sexual intimacy.
 
Speaking as an ex wife of a habitual cheater...it can become a game, an obsession, or a man finds that he just can't perform without getting some "strange" on the side because being with another woman is exciting to him. He may not realize whether he's married or single that there will be consequences later. Married and caught he may tear his family apart. Single, he may find out commitment is impossible for him and he is dead to real sexual intimacy.

Interesting.
 
Speaking as an ex wife of a habitual cheater...it can become a game, an obsession, or a man finds that he just can't perform without getting some "strange" on the side because being with another woman is exciting to him. He may not realize whether he's married or single that there will be consequences later. Married and caught he may tear his family apart. Single, he may find out commitment is impossible for him and he is dead to real sexual intimacy.

A woman can also find herself in the same type of situation, however it has always been unexceptable for woman to be "loose". Women have been stoned to death and chastised for such a lifestyle. Much like a double standard.
 
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Source: Where Have the Good Men Gone? - WSJ.com

Feminism worked to remove gender roles. It did a swell job at that goal.

Why should a "guy" as the article defines it grow up and be a man? The woman claims to be free of any gender roles, and thus the man has too.


I don't support it as a "should be". Just that, I recognize it as "this is the way it is these days".

Gender roles aren't evil, contrary to what you've been told.

If you can't figure out how this relates to the OP, you're not very good at making connections between ideas and their consequences.

Interesting. I"ve never thought about it this way.
 
Nah, the Never-Ending Story was interesting to watch. This is more like watching a crock pot on low heat, waiting hours and hours for it to cook a roast.

Hey.. because it's soooo relevant to your post (NOT)... Lynx, you ought to open up your profile posts where <coughcough> people can drop by and say hello at random times, rather than posting some weird thing tacked onto a post about watching crockpots :D just sayin.... ;) LOL
 
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It doesn't count for Americans. Only Dutch are like that. All of them. Scum of the earth. If they're decent they're young, married or widowed and not interested in me, being divorced. Those want a virgin. So the ones that want to date me are rapists.
Serious, I once went to a Dutch christian dating site and you can see immediately how they think about sex before marriage and skip em. There were 1 or 2 that wanted to wait. They were pastors. Lol all those women went after them. They could pick and choose.

Im sure they dont want u due to ur attitude towards men. Not so much virgin or not.
 
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Im sure they dont want u due to ur attitude towards men. Not so much virgin or not.
I only have this attitude now. I have to. My dad said: You're not attractive. That's why you attract these jerks. Well thanks dad. But he meant cause I have 3 kids. That was a nice way to put it. If you're too friendly and forgiving and naive you attract preditors. Nice guys don't want dumb naive women who want him to be the leader and it's insane anyway. Maybe it's sin to remarry. Maybe not. I don't care. Jesus wants me. I'm not gonna miss that marriage. He said to me: Marry Me. Time is short. They were marrying and giving into marriage.
 
Speaking as an ex wife of a habitual cheater...it can become a game, an obsession, or a man finds that he just can't perform without getting some "strange" on the side because being with another woman is exciting to him. He may not realize whether he's married or single that there will be consequences later. Married and caught he may tear his family apart. Single, he may find out commitment is impossible for him and he is dead to real sexual intimacy.
That must have been horror. I recently dated aman like that, but I got out quick, cause ppl warned me. Must have been hell for his ex wife. His family helped her to get rid of him. The whole church knew this and nobody warned me. He's such a poor sweet victim. I have to forgive him and keep going to that church. Bye. If they don't kick such ppl out I leave myself.
 
I only have this attitude now. I have to. My dad said: You're not attractive. That's why you attract these jerks. Well thanks dad. But he meant cause I have 3 kids. That was a nice way to put it. If you're too friendly and forgiving and naive you attract preditors. Nice guys don't want dumb naive women who want him to be the leader and it's insane anyway. Maybe it's sin to remarry. Maybe not. I don't care. Jesus wants me. I'm not gonna miss that marriage. He said to me: Marry Me. Time is short. They were marrying and giving into marriage.

If you take your self worth from people who put you down, no wonder. You need to find your identity in Jesus and let the holy Spirit guide you and get rid of ur negative attitude.
Jesus doesnt marry u or anyone ele. Nor will he tell anyone to marry you.
Seek God. Repent of that attitude. It only brings death
 
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If you take your self worth from people who put you down, no wonder. You need to find your identity in Jesus and let the holy Spirit guide you and get rid of ur negative attitude.
Jesus doesnt marry u or anyone ele. Nor will he tell anyone to marry you.
Seek God. Repent of that attitude. It only brings death
No you repent and shut up if you never have been abused. I choose to forgive them but you must stay away from those says Paul and I know what God told me, to stay away from men. The reality is negative. A bar is safer than a church. Those guys won't lie.
 
No you repent and shut up if you never have been abused. I choose to forgive them but you must stay away from those says Paul and I know what God told me, to stay away from men. The reality is negative. A bar is safer than a church. Those guys won't lie.

Ive been raped and abused. Ive repented of that attitude u have already. Hate isnt the way
 
Lol I reported myself. Bye everyone although i dont think anyone remembers me. I dont even know his username anymore. He came back every month with a new name. Just laugh it away and dont give a shit. Thats best.


 
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I'm not even mad at that sociopath. Who freakin cares. I'm used to being treated like crap. Steal my money. Give it to your girlfriend. Force me to buy you a phone. Who cares. But those church ppl and those elders who let these men do that and blame you and tell you to be more forgiving and stay there while Paul says dont even eat with those. Oh well. I feel more sorry for them actually. Who cares. There's snow finally. We can play in the snow today! My manager once said: How come you're doing so well? Oh I don't have a man anymore. That's why.
 
If you're too friendly and forgiving and naive you attract preditors. Nice guys don't want dumb naive women who want him to be the leader and it's insane anyway.

I think any guy unless they are manipulating controlling freaks don’t want dumb naieve totally submissive women. It’s exhausting. We are suppose to be the spiritual leaders and head of the household, however we want women who can be a helpmate and not someone who doesn’t think and is submissive down to the smallest decision and detail. I kid you not, I’ve known women who want to be controlled. They will attract those who love to be in control.
 
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