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Does God want us to choose between law and grace?
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Sin comes by lack of faith. The council was dealing with the issue of how to bring the Jewish Messiah of Israel to the nations. As this was the command of Israel from the beginning.
Again, sin comes through lack of faith. Following the law 'for righteousness sake' is not having faith in Jesus to BE your righteousness. Jesus did not lead the faithful to operate the Spirit through that which reminds you of sin. The Spirit removes sin from your being. That is it's purpose. It does not dwell within you dealing with it endlessly as if it has no power to dissolve it.
The Law reveals sin, the Spirit removes it. Which do you live by? Which is placed upon your heart?
Again, sin comes through lack of faith. Following the law 'for righteousness sake' is not having faith in Jesus to BE your righteousness. Jesus did not lead the faithful to operate the Spirit through that which reminds you of sin. The Spirit removes sin from your being. That is it's purpose. It does not dwell within you dealing with it endlessly as if it has no power to dissolve it.
The Law reveals sin, the Spirit removes it. Which do you live by? Which is placed upon your heart?
Righteousness comes through being united with Jesus through the Spirit. No other way. This occurs for us today through faith. The same way it occurred in the time of Moses and Abraham. God commands, and you obey BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE HIS WORDS. Too many say God commands, AND YOU OBEY, because you believe his words...
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The confusion arises because people are reading from scripture that does not pertain to them, as far a the law is concerned.....everything Jesus said, pertaining to wholesome words and the doctrine of godliness are to be followed....As Paul said, but not everything he taught was for us....that creates confusion, and also creates this question by the OP....I believe God is going to be upset with those that do not except the gift of his son, and keep discussing sin and works and repentance...as though he never died....it’s not your business what stage another brother is in during his personal sanctification. Wow, does God give the increase or not? Yes! None of us do! The waterer and the planter are NOTHING!
If any person (human) says they love the law and try to keep it is turned, by demons, into bragging about keeping the law. It amazes me that Christians fall for such rat trap.
Christ said that if you love me you will keep my commandments. Christ did not add it means they are kept perfectly, demons add this to human thought.
Christ said that if you love me you will keep my commandments. Christ did not add it means they are kept perfectly, demons add this to human thought.
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Did you fall for that? Messiah's commands were not the commands given Moses, but commands given Jesus from the Father. That all should come to him now to be saved and declared righteous. Jesus gave the law of the Spirit, not the law of Moses.
There is an instruction that comes from Jesus very mouth that all are judged by. It's the law of the Spirit. The law of sin and death, the laws given Moses all patterned and shadowed the law of the Spirit.
The instructions the Father gave Jesus that he in turn gave us, and of which we are judged by our faith in, lead to eternal life. A life in union with God through Jesus and his Spirit.
The instructions the Father gave to Moses that he in turn gave to Israel, of which they were judged by their faith in, leads to death. Why? So that God may resurrect them to newness of life!
As a seed must be planted in the ground as if dead in the grave, it will spring fourth on the day of redemption to newness of life, bearing fruit for many. The pattern persists throughout scripture. It's the heart of God to restore that which is broken. To redeem those who have been cast off. To return to his first love and marry her. As the redeemed nations rejoice and bring blessings of joy and riches beyond measure to the King of Glory. The Holy One of Israel.
There is an instruction that comes from Jesus very mouth that all are judged by. It's the law of the Spirit. The law of sin and death, the laws given Moses all patterned and shadowed the law of the Spirit.
The instructions the Father gave Jesus that he in turn gave us, and of which we are judged by our faith in, lead to eternal life. A life in union with God through Jesus and his Spirit.
The instructions the Father gave to Moses that he in turn gave to Israel, of which they were judged by their faith in, leads to death. Why? So that God may resurrect them to newness of life!
As a seed must be planted in the ground as if dead in the grave, it will spring fourth on the day of redemption to newness of life, bearing fruit for many. The pattern persists throughout scripture. It's the heart of God to restore that which is broken. To redeem those who have been cast off. To return to his first love and marry her. As the redeemed nations rejoice and bring blessings of joy and riches beyond measure to the King of Glory. The Holy One of Israel.
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It can get confusing to anyone that doesn’t understand, Jesus was speaking to the Jews, under the law. Jesus appeared to Paul, to give us the message he intended and without a parable....the grace message was still veiled, and not revealed until Paul, as Peter started, but gave the right hand of fellowship to Paul, as he understood Paul was the chosen vessel for the gentile.
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Just how do you know what my salvation is based on? Who set you up as my judge and jury? I know how to please the God I gave my life to. He has brought me down a much different path than you. Keeping some points, as best we can, of God's law does not curse us. Be careful you don't curse yourself by claiming such.
You position seems ridiculous to me. How do you tell yourself you are any different than the world? So tell me Grandpa what do you do that is any different than what the world does? Insisting on your own way and pointing the finger at anyone that doesn't approve.
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Oh I do understand the words that I speak. It is because you do not understand this subject you refuse to accept what the bible plainly states concerning it. I am amazed, I have never been on any other website where people do not understand righteousness of obeying the law was in place under the old covenant. Why do you think Paul kept stressing the Christian has no righteousness of obeying the law/works of the law? It should not be hard to understand.
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Do not bring your servant into judgement, for no one(no one) living is righteous before you Psalms143:2
Why not?
And if no one under the old covenant was under righteousness of obeying the law/not committing sin, why did Jesus need to die for our sins/give us righteousness apart from the law. According to you, they already had righteousness apart from obeying the law under the old covenant.
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Do not bring your servant into judgement, for no one(no one) living is righteous before you Psalms143:2
Why not?
And if no one under the old covenant was under righteousness of obeying the law/not committing sin, why did Jesus need to die for our sins/give us righteousness apart from the law. According to you, they already had righteousness apart from obeying the law under the old covenant.
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Very good: Sin and death through righteousness of obeying the law
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. Rom8:1&2
See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;
the one who relies on it
will never be stricken with panic.
17 I will make justice the measuring line
and righteousness the plumb-line;
hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie,
and water will overflow your hiding-place.
18 Your covenant with death will be annulled;
your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand.
Isaiah28:16-18
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. Rom8:1&2
See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone,
a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;
the one who relies on it
will never be stricken with panic.
17 I will make justice the measuring line
and righteousness the plumb-line;
hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie,
and water will overflow your hiding-place.
18 Your covenant with death will be annulled;
your agreement with the realm of the dead will not stand.
Isaiah28:16-18