Third temple sacrifices, the preview is here!
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It is said that Jesus took the wrath of God into his own body. He absorbed if you will a judgement day into his own body. During the passover. The passover was when Egypt was judged. So the apostles would have been observing events that did lead up to a judgement day. I dont look into days of Daniel in chapter 8. I think of it more in the terms of this. A thousand years with us is one day with the lord. And one day with the lord is 1000 years for us. Jesus rose on the third day. But total time was just over 2 days in the 24 hour scale. He rose from the dead in just over 2 days then why could he not return in just over 2000 years for us. The point the bible is trying to make is regardless of what we do that day will happen. In this life or the next. We are to live according to God in such a way that wether it happens tomorrow or 100 years from now that we are to live right in his eyes at all times. Of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angles which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. It borders of heresy and false prophets to claim you know the day. If no one not even the Son knows a man isint gonna know.
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And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
This occures almost 4 decades after the messiah is cut off. Which is said to happen at the end of the 69th week The hebrew term used means immediately followiing, or directly after te previous event (3.5 years later does not fit. As many like to try to make it)
The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Here we have an UNKNOWN period of time, which is not given, which we are told the city and land will remain desolate UNTIL THE END OF WAR DESOLATIONS are completed. It could be 10 years of time, 100 years, 1000 years, 2000 years 5000 years. We doo not know how much time is given, It is not given here.
So please do not tell people they can not do something, Until you at lease KNOW they can not do somthing, You may not agree, and thats on you. But to say we can’t, your flat wrong.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
Here, AFTER the time determined, whi ch the city and temple will be desolate, we have the start of the 70th week.
But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Here we have the event Jesus spoke of. An event which did not occure in 70 AD - no one placed and idol in the inner sanctuary, making the holy place desolate or unclean, let alone, an idle where the people of Jerusalem could “SEE IT STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE”
Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”
Here we have another period of time. A time in which the consumation of something is poured out on the desolate. We know again From Jesus words, That is is the time of Great Tribulation. Which will go on for a determined amout of time according to this prophesy. And accordingn to jesus himself. This time of great tribulation will be brought to an end with HIS RETURN. Because if he does nto return NO FLESH WOULD SURVIVE (Again impossible in 70 AD)
I do not have everything figured out. But you do not either, Your trying to make things occure when taking the word as written could not have occure, in fact, have not yet to this day occured.. So please. If you want to duscuss, try to discuss. But Try to show more humility and less pride
This occures almost 4 decades after the messiah is cut off. Which is said to happen at the end of the 69th week The hebrew term used means immediately followiing, or directly after te previous event (3.5 years later does not fit. As many like to try to make it)
The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Here we have an UNKNOWN period of time, which is not given, which we are told the city and land will remain desolate UNTIL THE END OF WAR DESOLATIONS are completed. It could be 10 years of time, 100 years, 1000 years, 2000 years 5000 years. We doo not know how much time is given, It is not given here.
So please do not tell people they can not do something, Until you at lease KNOW they can not do somthing, You may not agree, and thats on you. But to say we can’t, your flat wrong.
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
Here, AFTER the time determined, whi ch the city and temple will be desolate, we have the start of the 70th week.
But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Here we have the event Jesus spoke of. An event which did not occure in 70 AD - no one placed and idol in the inner sanctuary, making the holy place desolate or unclean, let alone, an idle where the people of Jerusalem could “SEE IT STANDING IN THE HOLY PLACE”
Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”
Here we have another period of time. A time in which the consumation of something is poured out on the desolate. We know again From Jesus words, That is is the time of Great Tribulation. Which will go on for a determined amout of time according to this prophesy. And accordingn to jesus himself. This time of great tribulation will be brought to an end with HIS RETURN. Because if he does nto return NO FLESH WOULD SURVIVE (Again impossible in 70 AD)
I do not have everything figured out. But you do not either, Your trying to make things occure when taking the word as written could not have occure, in fact, have not yet to this day occured.. So please. If you want to duscuss, try to discuss. But Try to show more humility and less pride
Jesus was talking to his Disciples about the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in their lifetime. To get the context you need to read Matthew chapter twenty three. Also Luke replaces the term with ''Jerusalem surrounded by Armies'' That was the abomination. If he meant the distant future he would have said ''When they see'' not ''When you see'' What would be the point in warning his Disciples of something that wouldn't happen for centuries?
Jesus used a number of Parables against the Jewish leaders and population of his day involving their judgement, not the twenty first
century Knesit and Israeli population
Jesus used a number of Parables against the Jewish leaders and population of his day involving their judgement, not the twenty first
century Knesit and Israeli population
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Look up the term abomination of desolation,
It does not mean destruction of a temple, it means an unclean thing is placed in a holy place making ut desolate, or unclean.
Jesus told jerusalem, when you see this idol standing in the holy place, run
He did not tell them when you see the temple destroyed, run
It does not mean destruction of a temple, it means an unclean thing is placed in a holy place making ut desolate, or unclean.
Jesus told jerusalem, when you see this idol standing in the holy place, run
He did not tell them when you see the temple destroyed, run
I don't blame you for getting upset and accusing me of things i haven't done so you can make yourself feel better, that's okay just show's me what kind of person you really are. Then you want to tell me how to properly debate you, I haven't spoken an ill word to anyone i know of, nor do I want anyone to not speak out what they really believe, right or wrong!!
I'm telling you, that you nor anyone else can add timelines to God's prophecies, He is very descriptive with His own timelines.
Here's the prophecy:
......70wks=490 yrs.
,,........ after 69 wks is Messiah 483 yrs
.......... 1st 3 and 1/2 of Dan 70th wk =Jesus ministry ; Messiah cut off
.............40 yr generation early church.
..............(all these things shall come
Up on this wicked generation.....
..............2nd 3 & 1/2yrs of Dan 70th wk=
.............. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple
These two 3 and 1/2 yrs Bookends this 40 yr generation!
All of this is within this descriptive timeline in scripture.
There's no 2000 yr period in this prophecy, and representing God you cannot put one there! But if you want to keep leading people astray, by saying there is, by all means carry on! 😋
I'm telling you, that you nor anyone else can add timelines to God's prophecies, He is very descriptive with His own timelines.
Here's the prophecy:
......70wks=490 yrs.
,,........ after 69 wks is Messiah 483 yrs
.......... 1st 3 and 1/2 of Dan 70th wk =Jesus ministry ; Messiah cut off
.............40 yr generation early church.
..............(all these things shall come
Up on this wicked generation.....
..............2nd 3 & 1/2yrs of Dan 70th wk=
.............. destruction of Jerusalem and the temple
These two 3 and 1/2 yrs Bookends this 40 yr generation!
All of this is within this descriptive timeline in scripture.
There's no 2000 yr period in this prophecy, and representing God you cannot put one there! But if you want to keep leading people astray, by saying there is, by all means carry on! 😋
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You arrogantly said peopl can. Ot do things as if you knew it all, so if your gonna now cry about it, thats on you, i called you out is all, and then posted how we can see that 2000 Year gap, whether you think we can or not.
You want to discuss things, do not tell people what they can and can not do, that just shows the world what kind of person You are.
See there you go again, this is a bible discussion forum, not a you can come in here to tell people stuff.
Well thats a great IDEA, and i am glad you believe this is true, but i disagree, for the reasons i showed, and many more reasons, which you have not showed me any teason to change me virw.
Again with your silly remarks,
Whatever dude, when you have something to discuss and want to show some humility, come talk, maybe them we can reason together,
Ps, i can red X too!
You want to discuss things, do not tell people what they can and can not do, that just shows the world what kind of person You are.
See there you go again, this is a bible discussion forum, not a you can come in here to tell people stuff.
Well thats a great IDEA, and i am glad you believe this is true, but i disagree, for the reasons i showed, and many more reasons, which you have not showed me any teason to change me virw.
Again with your silly remarks,
Whatever dude, when you have something to discuss and want to show some humility, come talk, maybe them we can reason together,
Ps, i can red X too!
I did not say it meant the destruction of the Temple although the Temple was included in the destruction. In 70AD large parts of Jerusalem were destroyed as well as the Temple. The whole city was considered Holy. The early Church in Jerusalem did run because of
Jesus warning. The whole city was eventually destroyed around 135AD following the Ba Kokhba revolt the site was ploughed over
and another city was built on the site including a Temple to Jupiter
Jesus warning. The whole city was eventually destroyed around 135AD following the Ba Kokhba revolt the site was ploughed over
and another city was built on the site including a Temple to Jupiter
I can assure you: You are not the whore of Babylon. The whore of Babylon is not just one PERSON. So you can be at ease.
But.... I read your profile and cant make heads or tails of what you are saying... talking about the 1800s, art market, hebrews, babylon, horoscopes. odd things
could you explain that? Also: why skyep? why not talk on the forum here
But.... I read your profile and cant make heads or tails of what you are saying... talking about the 1800s, art market, hebrews, babylon, horoscopes. odd things
could you explain that? Also: why skyep? why not talk on the forum here
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There is only one Holy place by which you can place an abomination which makes desolate, it is the inner sanctum of any temple or santuary, be it pagan, Jewish or whatever.
Daniel said a little horn would do this very thing, and it was fulfilled by antiochus epipnahies when he slaughtered a pig in the holy place, making it desolate. This is the example we should follow. The prince who is to come will do something like this, and jesus said we will see it stand in the holy place,
The abomination which causes desolation is the desolation of a most holy place, on the wing of the temple to make it mean anything else is to change the meaning of the Term, and misunderstand what the people in the days it was written would have understood it to be.
Daniel said a little horn would do this very thing, and it was fulfilled by antiochus epipnahies when he slaughtered a pig in the holy place, making it desolate. This is the example we should follow. The prince who is to come will do something like this, and jesus said we will see it stand in the holy place,
The abomination which causes desolation is the desolation of a most holy place, on the wing of the temple to make it mean anything else is to change the meaning of the Term, and misunderstand what the people in the days it was written would have understood it to be.
Partial-preterism yes. They beleive Jesus is still returning in the future. I have fellowship with them.
But full-preterist no. They are heretics and unsaved. They believe the resurrection is PAST already and Jesus already returned. No future resurrection. Like Hymeneus they are sadly deceived.
I was referring to full preterism
But full-preterist no. They are heretics and unsaved. They believe the resurrection is PAST already and Jesus already returned. No future resurrection. Like Hymeneus they are sadly deceived.
I was referring to full preterism