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Yea im thinking the fallen angels rather than the sethite lineage. Sons of God elsewhere in the Bible refer to angels. And then theres the whole power of the womans head because of the angels verse thats in .corinthians...why? Maybe the fallen angels tempt or seduce the women into becoming their wives to give them power...I dont know.
Because the sethite lineage came through to Noah and then on to abraham and Jesus, so they must have kept pure. And also note that Jesus mum was a virgin. Although some people say that virgin just means first time mum.
Because the sethite lineage came through to Noah and then on to abraham and Jesus, so they must have kept pure. And also note that Jesus mum was a virgin. Although some people say that virgin just means first time mum.
Again, in Job 1 & 2, Satan was not "UP IN Heaven" in those passages. When he answers, he merely states (answering the Q, "whence comest thou?" / "from whence comest thou?"), "From GOING TO AND FRO in the earth, and from WALKING UP AND DOWN in it" (that is, goin' all over the place, and now he's come to one particular location where Job resides and stations himself THERE). If he'd merely stated, "from THE EARTH," then this would imply he's located elsewhere now (like, in the air, in Heaven, on the moon, anywhere else but earth, etc), but he did not say that. (Again, this is just ONE of the indicators in that context that shows it was not "UP IN Heaven"... there are more.)
So eliminate those two references. Where else does it say they ("sons of god") were "angels" (I disagree that Scripture states this).
So eliminate those two references. Where else does it say they ("sons of god") were "angels" (I disagree that Scripture states this).
Does it mean fallen angels,, since satan fell to earth. Would the sons of God who took wives of the daughters of men because they were fair, refer to their fallen state? Also in Jude how he talks about angels that didnt keep their first habitation i.e heaven, and he also refers to Sodom and Gomorrah. And note that hell is reserved for the devil and his angels. JEsus didnt want any MAN to perish there.
I dont know why it couldnt have just said 'angels' but then I suppose its a mystery for us to figure out.
I dont know why it couldnt have just said 'angels' but then I suppose its a mystery for us to figure out.
Yea I dont know about the godly men marrying the ungodly women...when King Ahab married Jezebel, they didnt have giant children, and their child was a daughter not a mighty man.
And other examples in the Bible. Well King Ahab was meant to be godly because of his lineage, but he wasnt mighty just by marrying Jezebel...?
And other examples in the Bible. Well King Ahab was meant to be godly because of his lineage, but he wasnt mighty just by marrying Jezebel...?
Love is an attribute of God.
God is Spirit (John 4:24). Those who are born again are sealed with that holy Spirit of promise (Eph 1:13) and we are instructed to love with the love of God.
In Gal 5:22 we are told that love is a fruit [attribute] of the Spirit.
And please note, there are different Greek words which are translated into the English word "love".
In 1 John 4:8 and Gal 5:22, the Greek word is agapé.
There is also:
Phileō – Matthew 6:5
Philadelphia – Romans 12:10
Philargyria – 1 Timothy 6:10
Philandros – Titus 2:4
Philoteknos – Titus 2:4
Philanthrōpia – Titus 3:4
Philadelphos – 1 Peter 3:8
God is Spirit (John 4:24). Those who are born again are sealed with that holy Spirit of promise (Eph 1:13) and we are instructed to love with the love of God.
In Gal 5:22 we are told that love is a fruit [attribute] of the Spirit.
And please note, there are different Greek words which are translated into the English word "love".
In 1 John 4:8 and Gal 5:22, the Greek word is agapé.
There is also:
Phileō – Matthew 6:5
Philadelphia – Romans 12:10
Philargyria – 1 Timothy 6:10
Philandros – Titus 2:4
Philoteknos – Titus 2:4
Philanthrōpia – Titus 3:4
Philadelphos – 1 Peter 3:8
Deuteronomy 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants [rapha' ]; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
so the bed was 13 to 14 feet long and 6 feet wide.
i wonder how big Shaquille Oneal's bed is ... he's 7'1" and wears a size 22 shoe. I remember seeing his shoes. huge!
so the bed was 13 to 14 feet long and 6 feet wide.
i wonder how big Shaquille Oneal's bed is ... he's 7'1" and wears a size 22 shoe. I remember seeing his shoes. huge!
John Klein and Adam Spears are two ministers who have spend the evenings of over 25 years together studying scripture. One of their books is about the Nephilim.
They get much of their information about Nephilim from the book of Enoch. They explain why they believe in Enoch and give a complete history of why, when, and how the book of Enoch was excluded.
Their book is simple for each believer to understand, but at the same time everything is so well documented that each statement can be verified by the serous bible student.
They get much of their information about Nephilim from the book of Enoch. They explain why they believe in Enoch and give a complete history of why, when, and how the book of Enoch was excluded.
Their book is simple for each believer to understand, but at the same time everything is so well documented that each statement can be verified by the serous bible student.
May I ask, who or what do you believe "the morning stars" were, in that Job 38 passage?
Do you believe "angels" were sort of a "pre-creation creation"?? Edit: I see where you wrote "this was before Adam was created"... okay, so you're not saying "pre-creation creation" regarding the "angels," so nvm on that one... (if I understand you correctly).
Personally, I see Job 38 as referring to a kind of positional truths idea. [Eph1:4]
Do you believe "angels" were sort of a "pre-creation creation"?? Edit: I see where you wrote "this was before Adam was created"... okay, so you're not saying "pre-creation creation" regarding the "angels," so nvm on that one... (if I understand you correctly).
Personally, I see Job 38 as referring to a kind of positional truths idea. [Eph1:4]
Angel as ministering spirits are called sons of god in the same with the fleshly creation as children of God that are led by the Spirit of Christ The difference is when led the spirit is applied . Fallen angels are not said to be led by the Spirit.
Romans 8:14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
The spiritual seed Christ as to the generation of Christ was in jeopardy. The whole lesson was not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers called daughter of men . Angels that have no DNA can influence vessels of clay .Like with Peter in Mathew 16 :22-23 in order to blaspheme God in a hope of making his prophecy without effect .But they have no authority to take on a form of any creature of their own . If that was true then Satan would not of put his thoughts and words into a mouth of serpent. There were no humans available save Adam and Eve . You could say Cain was used in that way to represent the murder from the beginning
Romans 8:14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
The spiritual seed Christ as to the generation of Christ was in jeopardy. The whole lesson was not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers called daughter of men . Angels that have no DNA can influence vessels of clay .Like with Peter in Mathew 16 :22-23 in order to blaspheme God in a hope of making his prophecy without effect .But they have no authority to take on a form of any creature of their own . If that was true then Satan would not of put his thoughts and words into a mouth of serpent. There were no humans available save Adam and Eve . You could say Cain was used in that way to represent the murder from the beginning
The stars in Job 38 are the angels who were there at the creation of the earth. Revelation 1:20 is a cross reference when comparing Scripture with Scripture.
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
I personally believe it is possible that they are making a comeback.
There is one order of angels who can take on human form. These angels, 200 of them, were called Sons of God for some reason I cannot understand. They are the fathers of the the giants. Nephilim are the souls of these dead giants. This isn't in scripture but in books once considered scripture and now are not. If this is so, then they well could be coming back.
By reading the news, especially of genocide, there is much evil at play in our world. Our churches are losing their power for good in the world, many believing that God's law is dead.
There is one order of angels who can take on human form. These angels, 200 of them, were called Sons of God for some reason I cannot understand. They are the fathers of the the giants. Nephilim are the souls of these dead giants. This isn't in scripture but in books once considered scripture and now are not. If this is so, then they well could be coming back.
By reading the news, especially of genocide, there is much evil at play in our world. Our churches are losing their power for good in the world, many believing that God's law is dead.