Is the Anglican church a good church
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I think it would be easier for me to attend a more formal church. I just don’t want to attend any church like those I went to growing up. I hate the shouting and sarcasm and lack of reverence. I’ve attended baptist churches and I’ve never seen more judgmental or hypocritical people as in those churches. I don’t like overly friendly people. It seems fake to me. It is hard to explain. I’m trying to find some sort of spiritual routine or support so I hoping to find a way to get that.
If you are set on going to an Anglican Church, I believe there are still a few conservative ones. They are usually identified by their use of the 1923 Book of Common Prayer. I will say there is an atmosphere of reverence during worship in an Anglican Church compared to many contemporary worship services of today, but it is sad that their use of and reverence for God's Word has sadly fallen to the wayside.
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One of my friends goes but recently they've split over LGBT issues. So its rather divided now. In NZ, I gather the same thing has happened in other countries.
Just keep praying and asking God to show you, I mean church 'shopping' or 'hopping' theres nothing wrong with visiting different congregations, but its best to let God lead you to where he wants you to be.
It could be a non-denominational church.
While I'm not a fan of shouting, (we now have microphones, there is no need to yell) I do agree that sarcasm has no place in church.
Just keep praying and asking God to show you, I mean church 'shopping' or 'hopping' theres nothing wrong with visiting different congregations, but its best to let God lead you to where he wants you to be.
It could be a non-denominational church.
While I'm not a fan of shouting, (we now have microphones, there is no need to yell) I do agree that sarcasm has no place in church.
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You are looking at it the wrong way. Any time man tries to govern a faith, it corrupts the focus. I started my Christian walk in this perfect little non-denominational church. It wasn’t the building or the mission statement that allowed me to surrender my will for the benefit of its members. It was the people. We were all so loving and kind, and accepting. You felt the Holy Spirit moving. Whenever there was a social gathering, it felt like a family reunion. The board members then tried to make it more “orthodox”, starting with a building fund, pressing people to donate too much, and it changed the whole atmosphere. Then it became cliquey and we stopped going.
For years I have been studying at home, instructed by the Spirit. No church since has matched the love of the first, and no pastor compares to the teaching of the Spirit. I feel I belong nowhere because most denominations preach pointless doctrines of man above the truth, and instructions delivered by Christ.
For years I have been studying at home, instructed by the Spirit. No church since has matched the love of the first, and no pastor compares to the teaching of the Spirit. I feel I belong nowhere because most denominations preach pointless doctrines of man above the truth, and instructions delivered by Christ.
Aw thats a shame I find too with church ' boards' it just spoils it. Because then it becomes all about money, whether to spend or not to spend whatever budget. It was the same in Jesus day, when his treasurer Judas tried to stop Mary from giving her bottle of perfume to anoint Jesus. She wanted her to sell it for money to feed the poor, except he was actually stealing from the treasury (embezzling!) . And then pride when the richer members boast about how much money they give to the church but they dont give all of it eg .anais and Saphirra. Ugh.
I am sorry you have experienced this in a Baptist church. I"ve been going to Baptist churches for 13 years now, in Canada, and there is such a reverence for God, and a love for the people. Try not to go to an independent Baptist, but one that is more denominational, but not to the point of the denomination being more important than Jesus.
Which ever church you try, I would say to look for 2 things:
1. Jesus is exalted and glorified
2. There is love for newcomers, and for one another.
You will not go far wrong, if you find that!
PS. In Canada, the Anglican Church is a million miles from God, mostly! It may be different in different churches where you are. (They are all about social justice, or "causes." There is nothing wrong with social justice, as long as it does not become the focus, but rather rises out of loving God and loving others!)
Which ever church you try, I would say to look for 2 things:
1. Jesus is exalted and glorified
2. There is love for newcomers, and for one another.
You will not go far wrong, if you find that!
PS. In Canada, the Anglican Church is a million miles from God, mostly! It may be different in different churches where you are. (They are all about social justice, or "causes." There is nothing wrong with social justice, as long as it does not become the focus, but rather rises out of loving God and loving others!)
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It is similar, if it is high Anglican. But, a bit more Protestant, I would think.
I do not think staying home is a good option for you. To be a growing Christian, you need a church. You need input from others, corporate worship, and it is commanded in the Bible. This kind of sums it up!
" And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching." Hebrews 10:24-24.
If you are not doing that - helping others, loving others and meeting together, you really are living in a state of sin!
I do not think staying home is a good option for you. To be a growing Christian, you need a church. You need input from others, corporate worship, and it is commanded in the Bible. This kind of sums it up!
" And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching." Hebrews 10:24-24.
If you are not doing that - helping others, loving others and meeting together, you really are living in a state of sin!
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Ok umzza I understand it’s hard to find a good church to attend . It took me some time to find one when I first believed. We do seem to have the same tastes in worship but probably not the same theological understanding. That won’t be a problem in what I am going to say. I like quite and respectful worship . So I go to traditional services . Many churches have both modern and traditional services . The traditional services are usually the early ones and sadly fewer people. That may be a plus for you . Also I would not call myself a Baptist but close more like Reformed Baptist. Still don’t give up on Baptist congregations. some can be quite good . Please find a church and go it’s a blessing. Pray about this and ask for the courage to go .
Also just a hint when you are checking out a congregation listening for something from the pastor . It will be something along the lines please open your Bibles to _____________ chapter _________ verse __________ . If you don’t hear that often keep on looking .
Blessings
Bill
Also just a hint when you are checking out a congregation listening for something from the pastor . It will be something along the lines please open your Bibles to _____________ chapter _________ verse __________ . If you don’t hear that often keep on looking .
Blessings
Bill
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Sure the Anglican church is a good church, and so is Scientology, and Christian Science, and Mormon, and all churches, for they are a good church to someone, and even Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism, is a good religion in the eyes of some people.
Does not make them the true Church, or the true religion, but they are a good church, and religion, to some people on this planet.
You could preach Jesus is an alien from the planet Eliformadultra, and there is a good chance someone will believe you, and you can start a church based on what you want to be as truth.
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
But if it is not of God, it is no good.
Psa 52:1 Why boastest thou thyself in mischief, O mighty man? the goodness of God endureth continually.
Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
And the truth is everything is a fantasy, it is make believe, everything that people think, and do, is all a fantasy like a Dr. Seuss book if it is not of God, and His ways, and will pass away one day.
Which I have to point this out because it is silly the way so many people have different interpretations of the Bible, and argue over them when there is only one truth about the Bible, and not saying that I am better than anybody, but the way they hold unto things, and do not harmonize the scriptures, and ignore scriptures that are plain.
But the Bible is the most misinterpreted book in the history of mankind, for more people have wanted to believe what they want to believe about it than any other book in history, and dragged beliefs in to it not of the Bible, and interpreted it that way.
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Charity, love in action, works, is greater than faith.
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
Paul said he could have all faith so that he could remove mountains, but if he did not have charity, then he is nothing.
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
The love of money is the root of all evil because it neglects the poor and needy, and anybody that goes by their wants not caring about the poor and needy falls victim to it, and have erred from the faith.
So Paul said their faith is irrelevant without charity.
Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James points out charity by saying help the poor and needy, the same as Paul said, and James said their faith is irrelevant without charity.
So all these years people have been fighting between Paul and James concerning which is the right viewpoint, and Paul and James were saying the same thing.
Paul said have works of love, or no faith, and James said have works of love, or not faith, and they argue between the two when there is no arguing about it.
Which this is absurd that people cannot see that Paul and James are saying the same thing, but arguing between the two people.
Which goes to show you how there are many people that do not understand what the Bible is saying.
And why would Paul and James say two different things if they are both book writers of the Bible, but they would surely have to harmonize, but many people do not try to find the harmony, but argue with each other.
That is amazing, so Anglican, smanglican.
But I have fallen victim to it too when I first became a Christian, so I cannot be harsh about it, but when I started reading the Bible I was not adhering to what they said if it went against the Bible that plainly stated against them, but adhered to the Bible, but denominations have a lot of influence on people as they lay a blueprint out for them of what they believe the Bible states, and many go by that without question.
They got them arguing over Paul and James, and they say the same thing, among other things they got them arguing about.
1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
John is also a witness saying the same thing as Paul and James.
Does not make them the true Church, or the true religion, but they are a good church, and religion, to some people on this planet.
You could preach Jesus is an alien from the planet Eliformadultra, and there is a good chance someone will believe you, and you can start a church based on what you want to be as truth.
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
But if it is not of God, it is no good.
Psa 52:1 Why boastest thou thyself in mischief, O mighty man? the goodness of God endureth continually.
Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
And the truth is everything is a fantasy, it is make believe, everything that people think, and do, is all a fantasy like a Dr. Seuss book if it is not of God, and His ways, and will pass away one day.
Which I have to point this out because it is silly the way so many people have different interpretations of the Bible, and argue over them when there is only one truth about the Bible, and not saying that I am better than anybody, but the way they hold unto things, and do not harmonize the scriptures, and ignore scriptures that are plain.
But the Bible is the most misinterpreted book in the history of mankind, for more people have wanted to believe what they want to believe about it than any other book in history, and dragged beliefs in to it not of the Bible, and interpreted it that way.
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Charity, love in action, works, is greater than faith.
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
Paul said he could have all faith so that he could remove mountains, but if he did not have charity, then he is nothing.
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
The love of money is the root of all evil because it neglects the poor and needy, and anybody that goes by their wants not caring about the poor and needy falls victim to it, and have erred from the faith.
So Paul said their faith is irrelevant without charity.
Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James points out charity by saying help the poor and needy, the same as Paul said, and James said their faith is irrelevant without charity.
So all these years people have been fighting between Paul and James concerning which is the right viewpoint, and Paul and James were saying the same thing.
Paul said have works of love, or no faith, and James said have works of love, or not faith, and they argue between the two when there is no arguing about it.
Which this is absurd that people cannot see that Paul and James are saying the same thing, but arguing between the two people.
Which goes to show you how there are many people that do not understand what the Bible is saying.
And why would Paul and James say two different things if they are both book writers of the Bible, but they would surely have to harmonize, but many people do not try to find the harmony, but argue with each other.
That is amazing, so Anglican, smanglican.
But I have fallen victim to it too when I first became a Christian, so I cannot be harsh about it, but when I started reading the Bible I was not adhering to what they said if it went against the Bible that plainly stated against them, but adhered to the Bible, but denominations have a lot of influence on people as they lay a blueprint out for them of what they believe the Bible states, and many go by that without question.
They got them arguing over Paul and James, and they say the same thing, among other things they got them arguing about.
1Jn 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
John is also a witness saying the same thing as Paul and James.