Need clarity regarding this Predestination thing and something related to an election?

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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Yes. But that was before the canon of scripture was closed. John was called up into the third heaven in Revelation, can we expect the same treatment? No.
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Sad times.

God used to do stuff, now all He does is give you a book that everyone can read, including the heretics. Oy vey!
Stop limiting God. Are these liars and fake prophecies and fake signs and wonders? YES. We were warned about that by Jesus and the Apostles, but just because there are many fakes doesnt mean there are NO REAL ONES.
Why would the devil show up as Jesus to a muslim in an islamic country in a vision and convert them to Christianity? Absolutely ridicilous.

To say that God cannot give visions today is UNBIBLICAL. There were prophets in the churches that Paul wrote to and NONE of their prophecies are within our bible canon! So the idea that everything a prophet says must be in the Bible is UNBIBLICAL in itself. Its a case that cannot cannot cannot be made. I will never budge on that. I dont care what anyone says.

The Bible doesnt have a "CANON" within it. There is no "table of contents" in the Bible, its just a wall of text, no chapters no verses originally.

I've said it a thousand times here, The Bible CANNOT tell you: Who to marry, where to live, if you should even marry, what is God's will for YOUR LIFE personally, what does God want YOU to do for Him, does He want you in ministry or mopping floors? etc. etc. All these are questions that the Bible cannot answer, BECAUSE the Bible deals with general truths and commandments, and these questions I listed above are DIFFERENT to every person. For some its best to live in Arizona, for some God wants them to live in Mongolia. etc. It differs person to person.
 
Hevosmies said:
Sad times.

God used to do stuff, now all He does is give you a book that everyone can read, including the heretics. Oy vey!
Stop limiting God. Are these liars and fake prophecies and fake signs and wonders? YES. We were warned about that by Jesus and the Apostles, but just because there are many fakes doesnt mean there are NO REAL ONES.
Why would the devil show up as Jesus to a muslim in an islamic country in a vision and convert them to Christianity? Absolutely ridicilous.

To say that God cannot give visions today is UNBIBLICAL. There were prophets in the churches that Paul wrote to and NONE of their prophecies are within our bible canon! So the idea that everything a prophet says must be in the Bible is UNBIBLICAL in itself. Its a case that cannot cannot cannot be made. I will never budge on that. I dont care what anyone says.

The Bible doesnt have a "CANON" within it. There is no "table of contents" in the Bible, its just a wall of text, no chapters no verses originally.
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Again my friend, either the Bible is sufficient or it is not. It either stands alone of needs help. I say it’s sufficient and needs no help.
 
Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
https://www.gotquestions.org/closed-canon.html
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They do teh usual twisting there.

First they provide no scripture. Second they make the false cessationist claim thats ALWAYS made thats just a pure LIE that "Well if you had a word from God it should be in the bible, lets add it to the back haahaa"
If God tells me to move to Mongolia, WHY should that be in the Bible?? Thats just absolutely brain dead thinking.
Where in the bible are the prophecies from the prophets in the church of Corinth or Ephesus? NO WHERE.
Because not all prophecies are meant to be in the Bible, this is true in both OT and NT.

If I tell you that you should buy a house in Jamaica, WHY would that be in the Bible? Now if the Apostle Paul tells the church in Corinth to abstain from immorality, THAT should be in the Bible because its COMMON, GENERAL guidelines to the churches.
Not to individuals.

Kind of sad that I even have to type this out. This is so simple to understand.
 
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Sackcloth-N-Ashes said:
Again my friend, either the Bible is sufficient or it is not. It either stands alone of needs help. I say it’s sufficient and needs no help.
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Again my friend, the Bible cannot tell you: Where to live, where does God want you to live, does He want you to marry, does He want you in the ministry, etc etc.

True or Not? Its true.

But you wont admit it. WATCH IT.
I wont drop it till you answer this.

http://calvinistcorner.com/gifts.htm <- check it out
 
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ForestGreenCook taught in another thread concerning his false gospel that the salvation through the Gospel cannot be eternal.

He based this on saying (wrongly) that faith and repentance are works of men so therefore it cannot be eternal salvation being spoken if in the Gospel because eternal salvation is free. The salvation of his gospel is earned by works and he preaches it is earned by works, mind you, because in his gospel salvation only means you get some sort if temporary relief from ills. That my friends is outright heresy.

We then proved to him that repentance and faith are works of God, not man, but then he tried to act like it didn't matter anymore to try and save face. His gospel was proven false right there, but like all cultists he brushed off the evidence.

Anyhow, Ephesians 2:8-9 prove his theory that believing the gospel and being saved in his gospel is through works if repentance and belief. It explicitly states "not of works" which is the death knell to his false assumptions and teachings.
 
preacher4truth said:
ForestGreenCook taught in another thread concerning his false gospel that the salvation through the Gospel cannot be eternal.

He based this on saying (wrongly) that faith and repentance are works of men so therefore it cannot be eternal salvation being spoken if in the Gospel because eternal salvation is free. The salvation of his gospel is earned by works and he preaches it is earned by works, mind you, because in his gospel salvation only means you get some sort if temporary relief from ills. That my friends is outright heresy.

We then proved to him that repentance and faith are works of God, not man, but then he tried to act like it didn't matter anymore to try and save face. His gospel was proven false right there, but like all cultists he brushed off the evidence.

Anyhow, Ephesians 2:8-9 prove his theory that believing the gospel and being saved in his gospel is through works if repentance and belief. It explicitly states "not of works" which is the death knell to his false assumptions and teachings.
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And, here's another who views the "coveting earnesly" of Spiritual gifts = "WORKS For Salvation!" As if, God just SNAPS His finger and BAM! You have changed INSTANTLY:
first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

Yeppers? Jez SNAPS His fingers! :p
 
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