I believe the truth is in- between the two. This after years of studying Bible, and also examining carefully both Arm and Calv
Need clarity regarding this Predestination thing and something related to an election?
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I believe the truth is in- between the two. This after years of studying Bible, and also examining carefully both Arm and Calv
If Abram said no?
If Saul of Tarsus said no?
If Moses said no?
You see, in their schema, if they had said no God would search for someone else.
They repeatedly put the power into man’s hands, not God.
Let’s look at the word ‘world’ my friend. On your side of the debate, world means all mankind, and that’s all it can mean.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.(John 1)
He was in the world...everybody whoever lived? No. He was on planet earth, terra firma, which is what world means here.
And the world was made through Him..here is one place we can see world meaning everybody whoever lived, but also all we see and do not see, the universe.
And the world did not know Him...everybody whoever lived did not know Him? No. Here world that did not know Him is the lost my friend.
Another place where world is used...
3 We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints; 5 because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel 6 which has come to you, just as in all the world also it is constantly bearing fruit and increasing, even as it has been doing in you also since the day you heard of it and understood the grace of God in truth;(Colossians 1)
Again, not everybody whoever lived is this bearing fruit in. Not even everybody whoever lived at the time Paul wrote this, heard the gospel, not even today has everybody whoever lived heard it before dying. I read an article where ~ 3.2 billion people have not heard the glorious gospel of Jesus.
http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/201...sus-day-to-reach-the-unreached-set-for-may-20
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The HS is the one who teaches about the gospel. He can give you wisdom so you can make a choice He does not need you to be born again.
I am sorry you lack faith in the power of God to do what he wants
But the resurrection happens after satan is thrown into the lake of fire.Start studying the Great White Throne Judgment and all the Old Testament prophecies of what happens after the day of the Lord. It is known as the "little season" that Satan is restored after the millennium.
he is loosed, deceives nations, thrown into the lake of fire, THEN resurrection/GWT?
The Spirit gives fallen man wisdom to make an informed decision. Gotta laugh as that makes me wanna cry. The Spirit can only do so much, as He won’t step on people’s toes.
Man still fighting for what he's wrought in his salvation while trying at the same time to give God all the glory. They just don't get it.The Spirit gives fallen man wisdom to make an informed decision. Gotta laugh as that makes me wanna cry. The Spirit can only do so much, as He won’t step on people’s toes.
And that commission was fulfilled in Colossians 1:5-6 - For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; Which is come to you, AS IT IS IN ALL THE WORLD;
The Spirit does not need you to be born again. Allow those biscuits to soak in your brown gravy a few minutes my friend.
Wrong my friend. We are STILL fulfilling that commission.
Who said such nonsense?The Spirit does not need you to be born again. Allow those biscuits to soak in your brown gravy a few minutes my friend.
"And he won't step on peoples toes" is found in what scripture?The Spirit gives fallen man wisdom to make an informed decision. Gotta laugh as that makes me wanna cry. The Spirit can only do so much, as He won’t step on people’s toes.
You may already be familiar with the scripture, but the last half of Romans 7 Paul explains the very same thing happening to him as you have explained happening to you.
From EG...
“The HS is the one who teaches about the gospel. He can give you wisdom so you can make a choice. He does not need you to be born again.”
Yep. You do it and then He rewards your good decision making skills with the new birth.
Exactly. But the great commission was not fulfilled by the Apostles alone my friend. We are also to tell people the good news, which is also part of the great commission.
That's why I rejected your adding to 1 Corinthians 2:14 "can't believe spiritual things." Huge slip up and mistake on your part, and enlightening as to why your gospel is false.