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Magenta

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"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent." (Acts 17:30)

All.

"But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Matthew 9:13)

And since all are sinners...

"Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If anyone is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink." (John 7:37)

Anyone is everyone.
John 12:30 Jesus said, “This voice was for your benefit, not mine. 31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. 32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” 33 He said this to show the kind of death he was going to die.
 

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THE NEW TESTAMENT LAW IS STILL BINDING ON US CHRISTIANS.
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the law is scattered in the Torah. Jesus stated the law is in place until heaven and earth disappear.

Matthew 5 NIV
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
 
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J70x7

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I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but the law is scattered in the Torah. Jesus stated the law is in place until heaven and earth disappear.

Matthew 5 NIV
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
THE OLD TESTAMENT LAW IS NOT BINDING ON US CHRISTIANS.
 
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I know. Been there several times for work. Loved Adelaide and the hills to the east. Several wineries and other sites of interest. Hated the fact they refuse to export their best wines.
I want to go to the underground city in the desert you was talking about a few days ago and I want to drive west three hours and pan for gold hah!
 

Budman

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The law is in place until heaven and earth disappear according to Jesus. If we accept the grace of God through faith in Jesus we are freed from the penalty of the law. Sin is breaking the law. Woe to those rejecting Jesus because God will judge them according to the law.

Jesus stated that breaking the least of the law is as if you broke them all.
"For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” (Galatians 3:10-11)

The only thing that damns a person is unbelief.

"And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me." (John 16:8-9)

The world's sin is unbelief.
 

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THE OLD TESTAMENT LAW IS NOT BINDING ON US CHRISTIANS.
Are you calling Jesus a liar!! Sin is breaking the law. Are you a sinner? That is the only reason we need the grace of God. Paul in Romans 7 lamented he had the law of sin living in him causing him to fail to keep the Law. We all have that problem. Paul in that section of scripture said thank God for the grace through faith in Jesus.
 
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"For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” (Galatians 3:10-11)

The only thing that damns a person is unbelief.

"And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me." (John 16:8-9)

The world's sin is unbelief.
Just a friendly reminder, if you knowingly deny any Christ's Divine Revelation to man, you are in unbelief and you will go to Hell if you die in this WRETCHED CONDITION. For your sake, I hope you are not in the SIN OF UNBELIEF.
 

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Just a friendly reminder, if you knowingly deny any Christ's Divine Revelation to man, you are in unbelief and you will go to Hell if you die in this WRETCHED CONDITION. For your sake, I hope you are not in the SIN OF UNBELIEF.
The only unforgivable sin is rejecting Jesus.
 

Budman

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Are you calling Jesus a liar!! Sin is breaking the law. Are you a sinner? That is the only reason we need the grace of God. Paul in Romans 7 lamented he had the law of sin living in him causing him to fail to keep the Law. We all have that problem. Paul in that section of scripture said thank God for the grace through faith in Jesus.
You do realize that Gentiles were never under the Law. We never had it.

"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves." (Romans 2:24).

The Law was a temporary covenant given only to the Jews until the "seed" (Christ) should come to whom the promise was made.
 
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J70x7

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You do realize that Gentiles were never under the Law. We never had it.

"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves." (Romans 2:24).

The Law was a temporary covenant given only to the Jews until the "seed" (Christ) should come to whom the promise was made.
WE AS CHRISTIANS ARE STILL UNDER THE NEW TESTAMENT LAW; ALL NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDMENTS ARE STILL BINDING.
 

Magenta

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Good to see you back swinging the sword..... ;)
I pop in occasionally :D

I hope you have a lovely Christmas! You and all the sword swingers here :):):)



This Christmas card was designed by me based on ideas and suggestions @calibob gave me :love:

It really underscores the "Not By Works" theme ;) Based on the Litle Drummer Boy Christmas carol :D

Merry Christmas!
 

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I pop in occasionally :D

I hope you have a lovely Christmas! You and all the sword swingers here :):):)



This Christmas card was designed by me based on ideas and suggestions @calibob gave me :love:

It really underscores the "Not By Works" theme ;) Based on the Litle Drummer Boy Christmas carol :D

Merry Christmas!
I love it you have a wonderful gift to create these beautiful and meaningful images.