Things to Consider Before Attempting to Correct the King James Bible

[eternally-gratefull]

Easy or not, words have to be added and spelling changes to make it correct from Hebrew to Greek. You fail to grasp the point that God can and has inspired translations from one language to another. God can do this from Hebrew to Greek, but English is out of the question? Not with our God. Nope.

You fail to grasp the point that it is much easier for a person who is FLUINT In both hebrew and Greek to translate from the hebrew to the greek, not to mention. That the greek so so precice and extensive, it is EASY to translate from one to the other (thats why it was used) than it is for people who are NOT fluint in either hebrew chaldian or gree, to try to translate that language into a far inferior, less precise and less extensive language. Because you fail to grasp anguage issues.

 

[John146]

You're right; it's not impossible for God to translate perfectly to English. However, God didn't do the translation for the KJV; men did. Men did the collation of manuscripts to produce the prior English and printed Greek versions. Men made up the translation committee. Men made up the sub-committees that translated the same word differently in different places.

God didn't write the originals, men did. Oh yea, God did write the "original" ten commandments with His own finger. What happened to them? Moses destroyed them. What did God do? Have Moses write a copy of the "originals" and that copy is inspired. Let's not place more value upon the "originals" than God does.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You're right; it's not impossible for God to translate perfectly to English. However, God didn't do the translation for the KJV; men did. Men did the collation of manuscripts to produce the prior English and printed Greek versions. Men made up the translation committee. Men made up the sub-committees that translated the same word differently in different places.

Amen, If God did translate it, it would be much more precise/ Much more extensive and much more unquestionable. And it woudl never have been a word for word translation. Which was inmpossible to begin with due to the barriers of the english language

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God didn't write the originals, men did. Oh yea, God did write the "original" ten commandments with His own finger. What happened to them? Moses destroyed them. What did God do? Have Moses write a copy of the "originals" and that copy is inspired. Let's not place more value upon the "originals" than God does.

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[Dino246]

God didn't write the originals, men did. Oh yea, God did write the "original" ten commandments with His own finger. What happened to them? Moses destroyed them. What did God do? Have Moses write a copy of the "originals" and that copy is inspired. Let's not place more value upon the "originals" than God does.

Blah blah blah. Read what I wrote. Don't bother responding to what I didn't write.

Do you grasp the distinction between "original texts" and "original-language texts"?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Blah blah blah. Read what I wrote. Don't bother responding to what I didn't write.

Do you grasp the distinction between "original texts" and "original-language texts"?

Was going to reply with something, But decided against it.. But why he can not see is amazing.

 

[John146]

Amen, If God did translate it, it would be much more precise/ Much more extensive and much more unquestionable. And it woudl never have been a word for word translation. Which was inmpossible to begin with due to the barriers of the english language

Precise? Never been proven wrong.
More extensive? What does that mean?
Word for word? It's not, doesn't matter.
Impossible? Not with God. You fail to see that.

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

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He fails to grasp plenary, verbal inspiration.

 

[John146]

If your version of the bible lies, why do you use it?

 

[Dino246]

If your version of the bible lies, why do you use it?

That's a question I would ask you.

 

[preacher4truth]

God didn't write the originals, men did. Oh yea, God did write the "original" ten commandments with His own finger. What happened to them? Moses destroyed them. What did God do? Have Moses write a copy of the "originals" and that copy is inspired. Let's not place more value upon the "originals" than God does.

Just when you think the last absurdity cannot be one-upped, you get this ^^^^

Congrats John! I bet you can do it again, and real soon!

Yes, let's not think and use reason to see that the God breathed original autographs are of the highest value concerning accuracy. Let's worship the King Jimmy blindly instead, 'cause it's (da 1611!) better than what God did when he moved on his men to pen the Scriptures.

Just think about it: John146 gives King Jimmy and his subjects more authority and credibility than he does to God and those men he inspired to write the original texts.

 

[Dino246]

Precise? Never been proven wrong.
More extensive? What does that mean?
Word for word? It's not, doesn't matter.
Impossible? Not with God. You fail to see that.

Precision has nothing to do with being proven right or wrong. It has to do with accuracy of sense. If I choose the precise word, it is the word that comes closest to conveying the thought I have.

As to "impossible", you still aren't demonstrating any understanding of the difference between what God could hypothetically do and what He has actually done. Christian faith is not about what God COULD do. It is about what He HAS DONE and WILL DO. God didn't translate the KJV; men did. That's historical fact. I can clearly recall you waxing eloquent about the intelligence and understanding of the men on the KJV translation team (insert eye roll here).

 

[John146]

That's a question I would ask you.

You haven't given proof. I've given you proof in one verse, 2 Samuel 21:19. I'm not talking about words you disagree with, but out right lies.

 

[Dino246]

You haven't given proof. I've given you proof in one verse, 2 Samuel 21:19. I'm not talking about words you disagree with, but out right lies.

I don't need to give proof to ask you the question. We aren't talking about other translations so your "proof" (which is actually "evidence", not "proof") is off-topic. I also don't need to submit to your standard of evidence. From reading your posts, I have learned that you are not capable of accepting evidence contrary to your position.

By the way, the word is "outright".

 

[John146]

You haven't given proof. I've given you proof in one verse, 2 Samuel 21:19. I'm not talking about words you disagree with, but out right lies.

Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

If your bible lies in 2 Samuel 21:19, then it is a false witness.

 

[Dino246]

Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

If your bible lies in 2 Samuel 21:19, then it is a false witness.

Yawn. This thread is about the KJV, not other English translations.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Precise? Never been proven wrong.

Yes it has, You just refuse to see it.

More extensive? What does that mean?

It would actually be alot larger, As it would not be constrained to a word for word which has flaws.

Word for word? It's not, doesn't matter.

Well of course you do not think it does. But those who KNOW the flaws of the english language have PROVED otherwise;

Impossible? Not with God. You fail to see that.

True, But if God did it it would not be so easily exposed. But maybe your god is flawed?

 

[John146]

Yawn. This thread is about the KJV, not other English translations.

Offer one lie from the KJV, not opinion, not words you don't like, but a lie straight from the text.

 

[Dino246]

Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

If your bible lies in 2 Samuel 21:19, then it is a false witness.

Well then, I guess your Bible is a false witness.

2 Chronicles 22:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

2 Kings 8:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.

Time to get one that tells the truth.

 

[Dino246]

Offer one lie from the KJV, not opinion, not words you don't like, but a lie straight from the text.

1 Samuel 15:13 And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed be thou of the Lord: I have performed the commandment of the Lord.

There it is; a lie straight from the text of the KJV.