Hearing The Word of Faith
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In agreement. Individual believers are to preach (Gr. kérussó — herald, proclaim, announce) the gospel, the good news.
Those who respond and want to know more about the gospel preached are then brought into the church where the pastor teaches the more in-depth message and truth of Scripture.
And, yes, the whole purpose of the gift ministries given by the Lord Jesus Christ to His church (His body), is to equip each individual believer so that he/she is furnished with what is needed in order to minister to those in need and build up others.
Ephesians 4: 11,12 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ
God has given us so much. What do we do with this precious gift He has given us? Do we hide it under a bushel, or do we hold it out so that others may see and partake and learn of God's goodness?
Those who respond and want to know more about the gospel preached are then brought into the church where the pastor teaches the more in-depth message and truth of Scripture.
And, yes, the whole purpose of the gift ministries given by the Lord Jesus Christ to His church (His body), is to equip each individual believer so that he/she is furnished with what is needed in order to minister to those in need and build up others.
Ephesians 4: 11,12 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ
God has given us so much. What do we do with this precious gift He has given us? Do we hide it under a bushel, or do we hold it out so that others may see and partake and learn of God's goodness?
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You know you got me thinking. Maybe many couldn’t read for themselves or had access to the scrolls. So they were reliant on others telling them.
Today people can read for the most part. Read verses, see things on FB. Or read that poster that says the end of the world is nigh! Lol
There has to be understanding as well. The truth is that while we might plant the seed in whatever form, it’s God who gives the increase. It’s a partnership between us and God, preaching and teaching are important But lack of a preacher or teacher doesn’t restrict God.
I know an evangelist over here. He has a story to tell where one night he was driving home late very tired with a long journey still ahead.
He saw a hitch hiker and did something he has never done before. He stopped to pick up the person thinking they would help him stay alert.
Anyway they got talking and the evangelist was able to say how he was a Christian and what God had done for him.
To his surprise the hitch hiker said he was the third person to stop and pick him up and the third person who had shared about God! Wow
When God really chooses a person He really chooses them!
The evangelist gave the hitch hiker his phone number and said to call him when the hitch hiker became a Christian!
A few weeks later the evangelist got that call. Apparently the hitch hiker arrived at his destination and the first person he spoke to was also a Christian who led him to Christ!
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Just curious here, but can the word "hear" also mean "heed" or "understand"? For instance, I may be able to "hear" you speaking 50 feet away, but not understand you.
Sometimes when people have conversations, someone may say "I hear you there". That means he understands the other person.
Hope that makes sense...
Sometimes when people have conversations, someone may say "I hear you there". That means he understands the other person.
Hope that makes sense...
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I think most people don't open up the Book to read because they believe they'll never understand Scripture without someone teaching it to them.
I love the section in Luke 4 where Jesus Christ went into the synagogue and the scroll of Isaiah was delivered to Him and He found the place where it was written (Luke 4:17).
I don't believe it took Him hours to find the place where it was written. I think He knew where it was and He got there pretty quickly. This indicates to me that He was familiar with the scroll. He had studied the Scriptures, knew exactly what He wanted to teach and taught.
I also love the verse in Jeremiah where he says Thy words were found and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart (Jer 15:16).
How do we get from never opening the Book to read to having the Word of God being the joy and rejoicing of our hearts?
I love the section in Luke 4 where Jesus Christ went into the synagogue and the scroll of Isaiah was delivered to Him and He found the place where it was written (Luke 4:17).
I don't believe it took Him hours to find the place where it was written. I think He knew where it was and He got there pretty quickly. This indicates to me that He was familiar with the scroll. He had studied the Scriptures, knew exactly what He wanted to teach and taught.
I also love the verse in Jeremiah where he says Thy words were found and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart (Jer 15:16).
How do we get from never opening the Book to read to having the Word of God being the joy and rejoicing of our hearts?
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Years back I saw a coworker in the break room reading his Bible. I went and introduced myself and sat with him. He had read the KJV 12 times from beginning to end and was working on his 4th journey on the NASB. We became friends. He had gone to seminary & studied Hebrew and Koine. Later he asked if I would be interested in a Bible study. I asked him why he wanted to teach. He replied, “I want to teach you how to study for yourself, so you won’t need me.” We embarked on a 2 year study that continues to bear fruit. We all are obligated to share what we have learned with whomever we are led to, no matter how little or how much one knows.
My grandson has taught me more about prayer in his 4 year battle with leukemia that any theological writings I have read. Without humility, we are all unteachable!
My grandson has taught me more about prayer in his 4 year battle with leukemia that any theological writings I have read. Without humility, we are all unteachable!
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Really? One of us must really be dense. So I wasted my time even responding to your request for opinions about the embolden verse.
We got a winner!
What HE said....so is the capitalization of He to infer he is some type of deity?
We got a winner!
but it was The Apostle Paul........you know, the one you are using as an example to refute what HE said?
Yes very important part .We preach Christ the preacher/teacher not our own selves. We are not to call any man on earth good teacher in that way, the same as we are to call no man on earth father .One is the father of spirits in heaven not seen. One is our master teacher not seen we walk by faith the unseen eternal .
God simply is not served by human hands as a will. He can move a unbeliever, (no faith ) just as easily as one who does believe. we can plant the seed and water it with the water of the word. But God alone causes the growth if there is any.
He demonstrates that for us in Numbers 22 .There using a unclean animal (ass ) to represent a unbeliever in regard to Exodus 13 below as a ceremonial law, a shadow of that not seen.
Exodus 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.
Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
Feet throughout the scriptures represents our living faith the gospel of our salvation. As with Peter if the water of the word does not cleanse us of all sin then we have no part with Christ the preacher
Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.John 13:6-9
God simply is not served by human hands as a will. He can move a unbeliever, (no faith ) just as easily as one who does believe. we can plant the seed and water it with the water of the word. But God alone causes the growth if there is any.
He demonstrates that for us in Numbers 22 .There using a unclean animal (ass ) to represent a unbeliever in regard to Exodus 13 below as a ceremonial law, a shadow of that not seen.
Exodus 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.
Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
Feet throughout the scriptures represents our living faith the gospel of our salvation. As with Peter if the water of the word does not cleanse us of all sin then we have no part with Christ the preacher
Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.John 13:6-9
We should be careful how we hear God not seen . We are warned as a Motive of Operation of the antichrists (plural) that do say we need a man seen to teach us. In doing so they commit blasphemy which is attributing the work of the unseen Holy Spirit, to man seen. Which also violates the first commandment.
The commandment for rightly dividing His living word is that we seek his approval not seen and again not the approval of men seen.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
The commandment for rightly dividing His living word is that we seek his approval not seen and again not the approval of men seen.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
In our day and time, most learn how to read in school. When I said "most people don't open up the Book to read because they believe they'll never understand Scripture", I meant that some people believe they are not "qualified" to read Scripture ... they believe they need a M. Div. degree, or they need to be an ordained minister to read the Bible.
I have witnessed to people who have gone to church for years, but only open the Bible when they are at church. Never just sit and read Scripture. Hosea 4:6 tells us My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, and that's not talking about a lack of knowledge of current events, news, gossip, or latest fashion. That verse is talking about a lack of knowledge of God's Word. God's people are tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph 4:14) because they do not know what God's Word says and when confronted with a wind of doctrine spoken by someone who handles the Word of God deceitfully they are led astray.
So are you saying people shouldn't read Scripture because there is no guarantee they will "comprehend anything about the Book of knowledge of good and evil"?
I'd rather see someone read and understand what they can at the time. Then read again and understand more. And read again and understand more. We can read God's Word our whole life and never understand the whole of all it contains. God's Word is that magnificent. And God's Word never grows old.
I have witnessed to people who have gone to church for years, but only open the Bible when they are at church. Never just sit and read Scripture. Hosea 4:6 tells us My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, and that's not talking about a lack of knowledge of current events, news, gossip, or latest fashion. That verse is talking about a lack of knowledge of God's Word. God's people are tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph 4:14) because they do not know what God's Word says and when confronted with a wind of doctrine spoken by someone who handles the Word of God deceitfully they are led astray.
So are you saying people shouldn't read Scripture because there is no guarantee they will "comprehend anything about the Book of knowledge of good and evil"?
I'd rather see someone read and understand what they can at the time. Then read again and understand more. And read again and understand more. We can read God's Word our whole life and never understand the whole of all it contains. God's Word is that magnificent. And God's Word never grows old.
I was merely pointing out that a person can't teach themselves how to read without a teacher.
What I am saying is that a person could no more tell the difference between the Book of Life and the Book of knowledge of good and evil anymore than Adam could tell the difference between the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge of good and evil.
In such, do you know what is the difference between the Book and the Tree?
What I am saying is that a person could no more tell the difference between the Book of Life and the Book of knowledge of good and evil anymore than Adam could tell the difference between the Tree of Life and the Tree of knowledge of good and evil.
In such, do you know what is the difference between the Book and the Tree?
Well, who taught you how to read since no man can learn to read the written spoken word by themself?
So who taught Jesus how to read since the scriptures do not indicate that he taught himself how to read, or would it have been atributing the work of the unseen Holy Spirit, as you say, to man seen if it was written that he was taught by man?
However, seeing that reading and writing go hand in hand, then could that be the reason that Jesus never wrote any of the NT?
So who taught man how to write the written spoken word to begin with? It evolved right?
Reminds me of the ole Egyptian's children song: O Mc Pharaoh had a book, e.i.e.i.o. and in that book he had a word, e.i.e.i.o, and here a word, there a word, every day a new word, word O Mc Pharaoh had a book.....
What violates the first commandment? Being taught how to read and write by man?
So who taught Jesus how to read since the scriptures do not indicate that he taught himself how to read, or would it have been atributing the work of the unseen Holy Spirit, as you say, to man seen if it was written that he was taught by man?
However, seeing that reading and writing go hand in hand, then could that be the reason that Jesus never wrote any of the NT?
So who taught man how to write the written spoken word to begin with? It evolved right?
Reminds me of the ole Egyptian's children song: O Mc Pharaoh had a book, e.i.e.i.o. and in that book he had a word, e.i.e.i.o, and here a word, there a word, every day a new word, word O Mc Pharaoh had a book.....
What violates the first commandment? Being taught how to read and write by man?
The words you put in your comment were Scripture dude............you are really weird........goodness
As for he...........being typed HE.......BOTH LETTERS CAPITALIZED......was to signify that the Apostle Paul said the things you were saying I said............speaking of dense,......
u b weird..........seriously
As for he...........being typed HE.......BOTH LETTERS CAPITALIZED......was to signify that the Apostle Paul said the things you were saying I said............speaking of dense,......
u b weird..........seriously
See rule 9 of the 10 rules of capitalization. Here a link: https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/capitalization/10-rules-of-capitalization.html
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Hi thanks.
Faith as in having none to begin comes by hearing. That exclusive hearing comes as God supernaturally gives us new ears to hear the spiritual words of God that we literally can read if not blind .. Its those spiritual words that we compare to each other in order to hear what the Spirits says to the churches.
Isaiah preaching the gospel speaks of gift of His faith giving us ears to hear the words of His book. (not of our own selves).
Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Deaf hearing prophecy as the words of his book was the purpose of His ministry.
John 9:39And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they "which see not" "might see"; and that they "which see" might be made blind.
Because we are aware of the abomination of desecration standing in the Holy un seen eternal place of God. the source of faith the unseen work) .If any man seen say there must be a man seen to teach us . We are informed to remember his promise he would come teach guide us in all things and be the one who brings to our memrry what he has taught us .
Therefore as it in the phrase as it is written teaches us we abide in Him.(verse 28) the teaching master. In that way one is our teaching master in heaven just as one is our father in heaven and we are to call neither of earth, either tittle. Mathew 23.
It can get confusing
Note.....Purple the antichrists many.
Note.....Green the beleivers
Note.....Red the Devine
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.1 John2:18-28
We can share how we hear God but he must give the understanding. Or like Peter in Mathew 16:22-23 who blasphemed the Son of man Jesus being used as a one of the antichrists (many) with Satan the antichrist (singular) pulling the strings.
Jesus as the Son of man seen forgave Peter's blasphemy . This is when Christ as the Son of man was here in the flesh for that one time demonstrating. When he left he clearly informed the disciples that even through a few did know him after the flesh (that seen) we know him that way forever more. (2 Corinthian 5:16)
Today that would not be capable of forgiving. Forgiveness against the Holy Spirit not seen as the Holy Place offers no forgiveness . God is not a man as us. Again even Christ would not stand there in the holy place of worship as the Son of man . He in effect said only God "not seen" is good.
The Pope is one (dayman) today who does stand there in the Holy place reserved for the father and bouldly with false pride.. other might not be as easy to detect.
Faith as in having none to begin comes by hearing. That exclusive hearing comes as God supernaturally gives us new ears to hear the spiritual words of God that we literally can read if not blind .. Its those spiritual words that we compare to each other in order to hear what the Spirits says to the churches.
Isaiah preaching the gospel speaks of gift of His faith giving us ears to hear the words of His book. (not of our own selves).
Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Deaf hearing prophecy as the words of his book was the purpose of His ministry.
John 9:39And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they "which see not" "might see"; and that they "which see" might be made blind.
Because we are aware of the abomination of desecration standing in the Holy un seen eternal place of God. the source of faith the unseen work) .If any man seen say there must be a man seen to teach us . We are informed to remember his promise he would come teach guide us in all things and be the one who brings to our memrry what he has taught us .
Therefore as it in the phrase as it is written teaches us we abide in Him.(verse 28) the teaching master. In that way one is our teaching master in heaven just as one is our father in heaven and we are to call neither of earth, either tittle. Mathew 23.
It can get confusing
Note.....Purple the antichrists many.
Note.....Green the beleivers
Note.....Red the Devine
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.1 John2:18-28
We can share how we hear God but he must give the understanding. Or like Peter in Mathew 16:22-23 who blasphemed the Son of man Jesus being used as a one of the antichrists (many) with Satan the antichrist (singular) pulling the strings.
Jesus as the Son of man seen forgave Peter's blasphemy . This is when Christ as the Son of man was here in the flesh for that one time demonstrating. When he left he clearly informed the disciples that even through a few did know him after the flesh (that seen) we know him that way forever more. (2 Corinthian 5:16)
Today that would not be capable of forgiving. Forgiveness against the Holy Spirit not seen as the Holy Place offers no forgiveness . God is not a man as us. Again even Christ would not stand there in the holy place of worship as the Son of man . He in effect said only God "not seen" is good.
The Pope is one (dayman) today who does stand there in the Holy place reserved for the father and bouldly with false pride.. other might not be as easy to detect.