Does God ever cancel covenant promises?

[JaumeJ]

Ok I'll let you have the last ranting. You have lost the ability to make sense or discuss and it is also affecting your typing abilities. Shalom

I am blessed to see best without all of my sight,. I touch type and read with test to voice. As for fishing for texts to quote, if I know the content of any part of the Word God has given me, and all who read, the freedom to paraphrase.

When the caps is on I usudally do not discover it, not even with text to voice...I am sorry you are so very offended, but this does nto mean I do not what you to hear Jesus …...Voting on truth will not make anything true.

 

[Dino246]

Perhaps you are under a curse through the law but I am not. I go to Christ and He forgives all my sins and freely hands me salvation.

Perhaps you have given up trying to keep the law because you are human and can't. I keep working at it and the very trying is joyful. The word happy just doesn't cut it, it is joy. You can gossip about my being a law breaker, it is fine with me. God keeps cleaning up my messes and God gives me blessings when I succeed so you haven't scared me off with your dire words. I am uplifted in the Lord.

You made your claim and your words testify against you that you are, in fact, a law breaker. That has nothing to do with me. I'm just shining the light of the Gospel on it.

The job of the law is done; it brought you to Christ. It has nothing else to offer. Read again Galatians 3:2-3.

 

[Blik]

That's the only way to keep it is to give up trying.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

If you continue working at the law you get this instead;

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

So you get a choice. You can choose to be blessed and made Righteous by faith in Christ.

Or you can choose to bless yourself with your own righteousness by obedience to the law.

Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

As you can see by almost all the Epistles written by Paul, working at the law is not a blessing.

I seems to me such a simple thing for you to understand that I (as an example) am not under the works of the law because I have Christ for forgiveness and salvation, but I love the Lord and want to obey him and work at the law for it gives me joy. Could that be this hard for you to understand?

In every epistle I have read of Paul when he talks of not obeying Paul says "heaven forbid". It requires reading the rest of the story, Paul never preaches disobedience and when you read to not obey law it is only a half truth of what Paul teaches. Satan does that when he promotes sinning, Satan gives half truths. Read about the temptation of Jesus in the desert.

 

[Blik]

You made your claim and your words testify against you that you are, in fact, a law breaker. That has nothing to do with me. I'm just shining the light of the Gospel on it.

The job of the law is done; it brought you to Christ. It has nothing else to offer. Read again Galatians 3:2-3.

No dear, neither the law or you brought me to Christ. I discovered Christ when I was three years old and living with a couple who laughed at the idea of loving the Lord. And Galatians 1-3 is not the whole truth, it is part of the truth. No wonder you are mixed up! Paul is only leading up to his conclusion in the first of the book. Paul never meant for you to not hear him out but only listen to what he was leading up to.

The very first pages of scripture points out I am a law breaker, not you. I read scripture and know it for truth. That doesn't mean I don't do the best my human nature lets me. It is God in me that points me to the law, the law that is of the spirit of the Lord.

 

[Lillywolf]

Are you censoring everyone but yourself?

Is no one allowed to follow the thread as it develops? I think I will continue as I feel I must with a good conscience ...

You mistakenly posted to the wrong member. Please correct.

 

[Blik]

That's the only way to keep it is to give up trying.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

If you continue working at the law you get this instead;

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

So you get a choice. You can choose to be blessed and made Righteous by faith in Christ.

Or you can choose to bless yourself with your own righteousness by obedience to the law.

Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

As you can see by almost all the Epistles written by Paul, working at the law is not a blessing.

Okay, I give up. You are blind to all Paul says that you can't make fit your way, and that is the final word!

 

[JaumeJ]

You mistakenly posted to the wrong member. Please correct.

Please forgive tha……..God bless you…..

 

[Grandpa]

I seems to me such a simple thing for you to understand that I (as an example) am not under the works of the law because I have Christ for forgiveness and salvation, but I love the Lord and want to obey him and work at the law for it gives me joy. Could that be this hard for you to understand?

In every epistle I have read of Paul when he talks of not obeying Paul says "heaven forbid". It requires reading the rest of the story, Paul never preaches disobedience and when you read to not obey law it is only a half truth of what Paul teaches. Satan does that when he promotes sinning, Satan gives half truths. Read about the temptation of Jesus in the desert.

Let's try to make this more simple.

If you work at the law then you are under the works of the law. You are under the curse at this point.

Did Christ give you Salvation?

Did Christ give you forgiveness?

These were freely given based on what? Your performance at the law? Your obedience?

Don't you understand that Salvation includes obedience and righteousness? We are made pleasing to God by coming to Christ.

Working at your understanding of the law is not what is pleasing to God. It is not righteousness to God.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Galatians 3:11-14
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

I keep expecting a light to come on after you read these scriptures but I'm puzzled that it never does. And yet you still claim Christ. It seems to be just like the scripture that says they honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. Its like you have no idea what Christianity even is.

 

[foolishone]

1. 1. 
      
   2. Let's try to make this more simple.
      
      If you work at the law then you are under the works of the law. You are under the curse at this point.
      
      Did Christ give you Salvation?
      
      Did Christ give you forgiveness?
      
      These were freely given based on what? Your performance at the law? Your obedience?
      
      Don't you understand that Salvation includes obedience and righteousness? We are made pleasing to God by coming to Christ.
      
      Working at your understanding of the law is not what is pleasing to God. It is not righteousness to God.
      
      Galatians 3:2-3
      2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
      3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
      
      Galatians 3:11-14
      11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
      12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
      13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
      14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
      
      I keep expecting a light to come on after you read these scriptures but I'm puzzled that it never does. And yet you still claim Christ. It seems to be just like the scripture that says they honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. Its like you have no idea what Christianity even is.
      They don't seem to be able to understand Galations 3: 23 to 25. Kind of scary and kind of sad. In fact they don't comprehend any of Galations 3.

 

[JaumeJ]

You made your claim and your words testify against you that you are, in fact, a law breaker. That has nothing to do with me. I'm just shining the light of the Gospel on it.

The job of the law is done; it brought you to Christ. It has nothing else to offer. Read again Galatians 3:2-3.

The job of the law is certainly done in all who are inJesus Christ, that is to convince all that they are sinners, law breakers that is, and are not able to save their own souls.

The lesson of the law is obedience, prophecy and the wisdom of god.

The law is not obsolet nor is it destroyed, however much of the law, most of it, is already fulfilled by Jesus, now we are to obey His teaching on the Law.. This by no means saves us for the price of any soul is too much for amere man of flesh other than Jesus.

It is the curse of the law that died on the cross, never the entire law othewise Jesus would not tach us the law will endure while the earth and heven (sky) exists and anyone teaching against even the least of the laws will be least in heaven.

Many here sill use the words of Pau to deny obedience after salvation, this is not what Paul teaches but as long as peo'ple use their own understanding of Pau in place of what Jesus has taught us, I am afraid they do not know Jesus Christ, for even Paul has condemend any who teach another gospel other than That of jesus chrits, not that there is another.

 

[Blik]

Let's try to make this more simple.

If you work at the law then you are under the works of the law. You are under the curse at this point.

Did Christ give you Salvation?

Did Christ give you forgiveness?

These were freely given based on what? Your performance at the law? Your obedience?

Don't you understand that Salvation includes obedience and righteousness? We are made pleasing to God by coming to Christ.

Working at your understanding of the law is not what is pleasing to God. It is not righteousness to God.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Galatians 3:11-14
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

I keep expecting a light to come on after you read these scriptures but I'm puzzled that it never does. And yet you still claim Christ. It seems to be just like the scripture that says they honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. Its like you have no idea what Christianity even is.

Okay. Lets say that God looks at my works and imagine God saying that this human works so hard that she should be allowed in heaven. But the way to work to gain that entrance would be to shed the knowledge of sin that I was born with and I would have to be a God to not be born with that knowledge. I wasn't. So that way of entrance just isn't going to work at all. God wants me in heaven so way back at the time of creation God made a plan for my entrance, and it was through Christ's blood. God had his Son pay for my sins, but the human race wasn't ready for Christ at creation. So God used a symbol of Christ, and through blood those sins I was born with could be forgiven. Then God sent Christ in the flesh.

That is all taken care of, over and done. No need to worry that part any longer.

So here is this person living in a world with sin and sin does some terrible things to her in this world she is put in. It bonds her, makes her cry, takes away her joy and damages the soul God gave her. What to do? So God in His mercy did many things. He wrote out the basic way to avoid all this on tablets. Then God gave rituals to help people follow these ways to joy like circumcision to mark them as His and keep them away from the pull of people who refused Him. Many rituals to help. Those rituals didn't work out too well, so God gave a spirit that faith put inside of humans to help and told them to forget the rituals. But if any human wants to grow their spirit, wants freedom and happiness, they need to work as God lays out the plan for their work.

Still, there are people who scoff at working, laughing at people who go to church. They point fingers at church goers, saying the silly people thinks going to church makes God accept them and God won't based on that, and they think going to church makes them acceptable so they shouldn't go to church. Of course, that isn't a bit of the reason these people go to church so they let the scoffers poke fun and laugh and they calmly go to church anyway.