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Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
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blame my nationality on that one (Canadian, ay?)
politics here is a national sport it seems![]()
Yaa! Hey Dare! No problem, brother from the great white north!
huh
blame my nationality on that one (Canadian, ay?)
politics here is a national sport it seems![]()
Yaa! Hey Dare! No problem, brother from the great white north!p...I almost feel, that I must insert "disclaimers", in these oh so "politically correct" days. So, to avoid the "holier then thou", and "racially bigoted" deflectings, from those who view themselves, AS such! With their double standarded unstable lifestyles, and corrupted ways, and natures!) The term "G-Man", (least where I learned it from), came from old Jimmy Cagney, Edward G. Robinson, Humphrey Bogart, movies, where they were playing gangsters during the "days of prohibition." Think there was even a movie called "G Man", where Jimmy Cagney signed up to become a federal law enforcement agent. Before it was known as the federal bureau of investigation....Maybe not, though! (they say there's 3 ways to tell when one is getting older! 1 is the loss of memory! I forget the other 2!
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The synagogue was the community center and on the Sabbath they met to pray o God. Jesus went and so did Paul and all Paul's associates as is told of in scripture. Acts 6:9, 13:15, 18:4."In the first churches after Christ the Jews and Christians met together in the synagogues to worship God"
No doubt the Jews were in the synagogues in Asia and Israel. And at least one Christian....Paul. But Gentile converts to Christ commonly and typically in the synagogues? Not that I know of. Churches gatherings were not synagogues or vice versa. As it is today.
So you agree with me then. Thank you.The synagogue was the community center and on the Sabbath they met to pray o God. Jesus went and so did Paul and all Paul's associates as is told of in scripture. Acts 6:9, 13:15, 18:4.
Acts 13:14 14 From Perga they went on to Pisidian Antioch. On the Sabbath they entered the synagogue and sat down.
Paul was a Jewish Pharisee who had graduated tops at the best school. The Lord used his knowledge of the OT, he never renounced either his Jewishness or being a Pharisee as he accepted Christ as the messiah. His letters teach following the ways of teaching he had been taught by Gamaliel in school to become a rabbi.
Paul was a Jewish Pharisee who had graduated tops at the best school. The Lord used his knowledge of the OT, he never renounced either his Jewishness or being a Pharisee as he accepted Christ as the messiah.
I am not a believer of the Church you are addressing. However, I wanted to respond after noticing your comment about the thief on the cross.I'm afraid they trust in the water of baptism . . . not the blood. Do you have a link to a sermon where a man is saved by simple faith in Jesus Christ (like the thief on the cross?)
If you believe that the work, act, or ritual of baptism has any salvific quality or quantity you are grievously mistaken. There is absolutely nothing we do or can do that will qualify us for Gods righteousness, for it is a gift to be received in faith, this faith manifesting itself in obedience.I am not a believer of the Church you are addressing. However, I wanted to respond after noticing your comment about the thief on the cross.
I follow Peter's instructions in Acts 2:38 as well. Unfortunately a lot of people miss the fact that most of us who follow the steps outlined do definitely rely first and foremost on the sacrifice of our Lord and Savior. Without the shedding of His blood all of mankind would be lost. But praise God because of His grace we are given a path back to right standing with our maker.
As far as the thief on the cross, his obligation differed from the New Testament Church...
Have you ever wondered how the thief on the cross entered into Paradise without following the New Testament covenantal responsibilities outlined in Acts 2:38? “Repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Even if the thief wanted to be obedient, coming down off of the cross was not an option. How then is it possible that Jesus could tell the thief that he would be with Him that day in Paradise?
In order to be saved, the man beside Jesus would have been responsible to meet God’s Old Testament commands because Jesus had not died and resurrected yet.
The New Testament rebirth requirements began after Jesus’ death, burial, resurrection and ascension into the heavens. We know this because on the day that the church was born, Peter stated that we must repent, be water baptized in Jesus name, and receive the Holy Ghost in order to be saved. The Holy Ghost was not sent until after Jesus ascended back into Heaven and poured His blood upon the mercy seat. (Hebrews 9:11-12) After Jesus entered the Holy of Holies in the Heavenlies, the Holy Ghost (gift of the Holy Ghost) was then poured out upon the people present on the Day of Pentecost. (Acts 2:3-4)
Let’s look at when the New Covenant officially began. We know from scripture that John the Baptist’s ministry was to prepare the way of the Lord. He was referred to as the Baptist, because in addition to proclaiming the coming of the Lord, his ministry was to initiate the concept of water baptism. Water baptism was necessary for the remission of sin. (Acts 2:38) However, sins could not be remitted without the shedding of blood. After Jesus’ blood was shed it had to be poured onto the mercy seat. This had not taken place prior to John’s ministry.
Jesus appeared after His resurrection and fulfilling the mission as our high priest, returned for a period of 40 days and then ascended back into Heaven. After this occurred, individuals who had been baptized by John were commanded to be re-baptized in Jesus name. (Acts 19:2-6) The New Testament church had officially begun.
Keep in mind that a Will and Testament becomes valid only after one’s death. This being said, you may wonder what the thief’s covenantal responsibility would entail. The Old Testament was still in effect at the time of the thief’s death.
Each person, including the thief on the cross, that perished before Jesus entered into the holy place and obtained eternal redemption for mankind, was judged by the Old Testament mandates. The obligation to God was to have faith in the coming Messiah and to be circumcised.
Genesis 17:10 states, “This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised... He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.”
The New Testament parallel of the Old Testament circumcision is found in Colossians Chapter 2: “In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.”
The Word tells us we are to obey the gospel: “But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:16-17If you believe that the work, act, or ritual of baptism has any salvific quality or quantity you are grievously mistaken. There is absolutely nothing we do or can do that will qualify us for Gods righteousness, for it is a gift to be received in faith, this faith manifesting itself in obedience.
Which of course includes baptism.
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I am an elder of the Church. I am an accountant by profession, but have discovered the wonders of God's Word and hope to share these with you.
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I believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. I accept the words of the Bible as being literal and having literal meaning. I do not believe the Church has replaced Israel. I look forward to the soon return of our Lord Jesus. Based upon scripture and natural predilection, I look forward to the Lord gathering us to him before His great and righteous wrath.
This is from the Church of Christ, a cult which believes that a person is saved not by trusting in Jesus Christ but by being baptized in water. They replace the Blood of Christ with powerless water. They are not a Christian church . . . they are an unbiblical cult.
You do realize that you are blatantly contradicting Scripture and the words of Paul himself?Paul was a Jewish Pharisee who had graduated tops at the best school. The Lord used his knowledge of the OT, he never renounced either his Jewishness or being a Pharisee as he accepted Christ as the messiah. His letters teach following the ways of teaching he had been taught by Gamaliel in school to become a rabbi.
The synagogue was the community center and on the Sabbath they met to pray o God. Jesus went and so did Paul and all Paul's associates as is told of in scripture. Acts 6:9, 13:15, 18:4.
Acts 13:14 14 From Perga they went on to Pisidian Antioch. On the Sabbath they entered the synagogue and sat down.
Paul was a Jewish Pharisee who had graduated tops at the best school. The Lord used his knowledge of the OT, he never renounced either his Jewishness or being a Pharisee as he accepted Christ as the messiah. His letters teach following the ways of teaching he had been taught by Gamaliel in school to become a rabbi.
I don't think you are right in saying this. I have spent many a day in study of Paul. I find that God used all the knowledge and talents Paul had. I agree with the judge mentioned in Acts who ruled that Paul always agreed with the OT and never taught anything to be against it. In his letters I find he used the outline he learned from the school he attended to learn to be a rabbi (Gamaliel). The Bereans only believed Paul because they found he agreed with scripture.You do realize that you are blatantly contradicting Scripture and the words of Paul himself?
I don't think you are right in saying this. I have spent many a day in study of Paul. I find that God used all the knowledge and talents Paul had. I agree with the judge mentioned in Acts who ruled that Paul always agreed with the OT and never taught anything to be against it. In his letters I find he used the outline he learned from the school he attended to learn to be a rabbi (Gamaliel). The Bereans only believed Paul because they found he agreed with scripture.
Christ fulfilled all the OT spoke of Him, so Paul added Christ to his knowledge of God. He did not deny any of what he had learned of God.
The New Testament parallel of the Old Testament circumcision is found in Colossians Chapter 2: “In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.”
Well spoken thank you.Colossians 2:12 is not referring to "water baptism".
It says,
"having been buried with Him in the baptism, in which also you were raised with Him through the faith of the working of God, the One having raised Him out from the dead." and in verse 13, "God made you alive with Christ"
https://biblehub.com/text/colossians/2-12.htm
"the baptism" (according to this context as well as what we see in Romans 6:3) refers to His death. Rom6:3 states, "Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus [not into "water"] have been baptized into His death?"
Colossians 2:12 is not referring to "water baptism".
It says,
"having been buried with Him in the baptism, in which also you were raised with Him through the faith of the working of God, the One having raised Him out from the dead." and in verse 13, "God made you alive with Christ"
https://biblehub.com/text/colossians/2-12.htm
"the baptism" (according to this context as well as what we see in Romans 6:3) refers to His death. Rom6:3 states, "Or are you unaware that as many as have been baptized into Christ Jesus [not into "water"] have been baptized into His death?"
The KJV does not include the word "the" before baptism in the scripture:"G909 - [singular--used only here in Col2:12, and with the definite article "the"]--sorry for the odd format of this post, as it would not allow me to spell out the word properly (as seen below):
baptismō