Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?
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How do I explain it?
They chose to serve self not God.
I never said they were not able to sin, God gave them free will.
The difference is they did not have a human nature, they COULD have chosen to depend on God to take care of all their needs, and resist the temptation. (Be sinless)
After tthe fall. They were not able of their own power to do so.
And can you please cut will the childish attacks, they do not help your cause, it makes you look childish.
They chose to serve self not God.
I never said they were not able to sin, God gave them free will.
The difference is they did not have a human nature, they COULD have chosen to depend on God to take care of all their needs, and resist the temptation. (Be sinless)
After tthe fall. They were not able of their own power to do so.
And can you please cut will the childish attacks, they do not help your cause, it makes you look childish.
Only After they had eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil where they removed from the garden.. Before that time they had access to every tree in the garden Except for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil..
Genesis 2: KJV
16 "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: {17} But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
So the tree of Life was in the Garden and God told them they could eat of every tree in the garden except 1.. the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.. So Adam and Eve where free to eat of the tree of life..
Genesis 2: KJV
9 "And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."
Genesis 2: KJV
16 "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: {17} But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."
So the tree of Life was in the Garden and God told them they could eat of every tree in the garden except 1.. the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.. So Adam and Eve where free to eat of the tree of life..
Genesis 2: KJV
9 "And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."
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Do you think before you type? What is with these childish comments? You like a little teenager who is not getting his way so you attack like it somehow makes you look good. Once again, it does not.. Please stop.
I am talking about pre fall. Why are you discussingn post fall? Can you not even keep on topic?
I am talking about pre fall. Why are you discussingn post fall? Can you not even keep on topic?
Yes, the were free to eat from every tree with one exception.
But they did not eat from the Tree of Life.
Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
But they did not eat from the Tree of Life.
Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
@Adstar and @eternally-gratefull
We should also bring this back around to the topic of Universalism.
How does the Fall fit in the discussion about salvation?
Do we expect to find Adam and Eve in heaven? On what basis?
Both Abel and Enoch appear in the Faith chapter (Heb.11)
We should also bring this back around to the topic of Universalism.
How does the Fall fit in the discussion about salvation?
Do we expect to find Adam and Eve in heaven? On what basis?
Both Abel and Enoch appear in the Faith chapter (Heb.11)
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1. Adam by his own power did not sin UP TO THE TIME HE SINNED. (Why is this so hard for you to comprehend)
2. You do not even understand what sin is, Sin is the root of the flesh, Which is to put your needs above the needs of others. Adam put his will, and what he thought his needs were over Gods desires and beliefe God would never lead him astray. This was his first sin, Completed when he ate of the forbidden fruit..
2. You do not even understand what sin is, Sin is the root of the flesh, Which is to put your needs above the needs of others. Adam put his will, and what he thought his needs were over Gods desires and beliefe God would never lead him astray. This was his first sin, Completed when he ate of the forbidden fruit..