Is God that cruel?

[Blik]

I think God has a wonderful place for us to go to when we are done with this life, and that place simply could not be like the heaven God has if unforgiven sin was part of it.

In love God cleared our earth of evil men and started over with men of God so we could live in safety. God ordered men to get rid of the idea of killing babies to give their blood to false gods when he ordered killing of these people so we could live in safety and peace. Evil kills in many ways, the ways of God is for life.

 

[BenFTW]

I lost interest when you hoped to impugn my thoughts using the derogatory phrase, shtick.

I mean, its accurate. Its all good, but it seems to be an on-going theme from some users as of late (if not for longer, I haven't frequented the site religiously like in the past).

Yep...

 

[Lillywolf]

Im aware of the context. I agree with Paul

Then you have no disagreement with me.

 

[Lillywolf]

I mean, its accurate. Its all good, but it seems to be an on-going theme from some users as of late (if not for longer, I haven't frequented the site religiously like in the past).

Yep...

No.
It isn't accurate. It is just the best you can do.
I and other Christians here who receive the same maltreatment actually deserve better that cutting sophomoric jibes from those incapable of following mature informed educated discourse.

 

[BenFTW]

Then you have no disagreement with me.

Sorry if I am coming off rude, its just hard to discuss truth when a belief system obviously contradictory to scripture is held so dearly. The belief of predestination comes with it a multitude of issues, and to then discuss the Gospel with that teaching as its presupposition, there just isn't a good way to marry the two (in respect to God's desire, Christ being the propitiation for the sins of the world, etc).

 

[BenFTW]

No.
It isn't accurate. It is just the best you can do.
I and other Christians here who receive the same maltreatment actually deserve better that cutting sophomoric jibes from those incapable of following mature informed educated discourse.

Sorry that my comments made you feel this response was necessary.

 

[Nekka]

Why do you think it is cruel for G-d to respect peoples choice to go to hell. G-d said choose my Son have eternal life or go to hell; people chose not to. I do not understand at all how you blame G-d for people choosing hell!?!

I didn't said that God is cruel..that was a question. I said that God is love. And it seems absurd that Him, Love, to send people to burn for eternity..even that they refused to believe in him, even so that's is too cruel..that action is cruel. So my question was 'How could God do that?"..not giving a second chance..even to people that haven't got the chance to know Him....And because i belive that God is love..i don't think he would do that. Indeed those people should be punished...but not for eternity

 

[Nekka]

"...with the purified you show yourself pure; and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous." Psalm 18:26.

Therefore it is a commentary on us, not God.

You all don't see that the title i put is ironic....I don't think that God is cruel

 

[Nekka]

Isn’t that from Delphi? “God” isn’t good and bad. “God” is balance. When there is unbalance then bad occurs. We are definitely not privileged to all information but He has left clues.

I think that God is a balance of good and bad

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

You all don't see that the title i put is ironic....I don't think that God is cruel

Unless He sends souls to hell then He is cruel, yea?

 

[AgapeShellArt]

Let.s say you have a son..and he did something terible, hurt someone or broke something...you as a parent, would you send him to burn in hell for eternity because of that?...i guess not, cause he's your son and you love him...so i ask you..how could God punish people with an eternity in hell because of their sins...God, who is pure love...he could to that? Isn.t that a little cruel?

No God is not cruel. What would be cruel is to let your kids be bullies and beat up, torture and kill their siblings with no punishment.

What would be cruel is what some call parenting but really is neglectful actions of a lazy person who uses TV to babysit children they never wanted to on their sinful selfish lives.

God is not cruel but he also isn't a neglectful parent who threatens punishment but never reinforces His will.

God's Justice is not cruel and He has graciously given His son as a sacrifice for our sins.if only we believe and turn from our ways to Him alone.

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Let.s say you have a son..and he did something terible, hurt someone or broke something...you as a parent, would you send him to burn in hell for eternity because of that?...i guess not, cause he's your son and you love him...so i ask you..how could God punish people with an eternity in hell because of their sins...God, who is pure love...he could to that? Isn.t that a little cruel?

ringe on their selfish life to begin with.

 

[Demi777]

God isnt cruel, he is holy, just and righteous.

 

[JohnRH]

Let.s say you have a son..and he did something terible, hurt someone or broke something...you as a parent, would you send him to burn in hell for eternity because of that?

A parent can't send his son to hell. He can only kill his body. The killing of a son can be just in some cases, in spite of the parent's love for him.

...i guess not, cause he's your son and you love him...so i ask you..how could God punish people with an eternity in hell because of their sins...God, who is pure love...he could to that? Isn.t that a little cruel?

God, who is love, punishes people with eternity in hell because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

 

[Hungry]

I think that God is a balance of good and bad

Again to the body analogy. “God” isn’t the universe but He created it. All creation is balanced, structured, ordered. Like the Oracle of Delphi states, understand yourself. Inside you are systems within systems working independently, but in constant communion with all of the other parts achieving oneness. When everything is balanced, it is homeostasis. You are healthy and thriving. When your systems are not in concert, you are subject to disease and death. The balance isn’t good and bad, the balance is good, the out of balance is bad. The proper balance of oxygen and glucose in a cell keep it healthy, good. The out of balance, too much glucose, not enough oxygen, bad. That’s when cancer occurs. When cancer starts it infects surrounding areas until the whole body is out of balance, death. Humans like cancer, multiply uncontrollably and are not serving the whole. That brings unbalance and “global disease”. Humans weren’t created bad. Our lineage was interfered with, removing us from our natural position, serving the whole. Instead we serve ourselves, with pleasure. The whole universe is like the body, systems within systems, working independently to serve the whole.

If you understand the words and what they mean in the Bible it paints a picture not displayed by “The Church”. Just as in the body, there is a command central, the brain, attached to it is the hypothalamus. The brain and hypothalamus work in concert to achieve homeostasis in the body. These are the masters, serving the whole. Although they are masters they send and receive. They do not actuate. They are dependant on subordinates like nerves and glands. In this scenario we are hormones serving the endocrine system. This is what adopts us into the whole as Christ’s body. Yahweh is the Brain. Christ is the Hypothalamus. As we have a soul, a life force, encompassing and communicating throughout the vessel, so too is the Holy Spirit. This is the construct. They are One and we are created by Them and for Them. Understand yourself indeed!

 

[Adstar]

Let.s say you have a son..and he did something terible, hurt someone or broke something...you as a parent, would you send him to burn in hell for eternity because of that?...i guess not, cause he's your son and you love him...so i ask you..how could God punish people with an eternity in hell because of their sins...God, who is pure love...he could to that? Isn.t that a little cruel?

God is perfect.... So He must be perfect in judgement.. So any sin causes us to be imperfect.. God must them prevent an imperfect being who has sinned from entering into His perfect eternal existence.. Once the imperfect sinner walks into Gods perfect existence they cause it to become imperfect..

God can transform imperfect beings into perfect ones and grant them eternal life in his perfect eternal existence.. BUT He must do it in a way that is perfectly Justified..

God has made an easy Way for us imperfect Human beings toi be justly transformed into perfect beings.. This is by the gift of the Atonement that Jesus secured for us by His sacraficial death on the cross that pays the penalty for our sins..

God does not want anyone to go into the eternal lake of fire.. But sadly people are going to reject his Loving gift of Atonement and thus God will not be able to justly forgive them and transform them into perfect eternal beings..

 

[Subhumanoidal]

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Why is that new age philosophy?

All of this reference to everything having "duality" is common in Buddhist teachings. Buddhism falls under the umbrella of new age. The only duality taught biblically is the war of the inner self between flesh and spirit of one that has been saved.

And this line "Man, know yourself and you will know the Universe and the Gods."
I'm not sure the basis of it but a quick search brought up freemasonry, not biblical, and gnosticism, also not biblical.

Another quick search I discovered that line comes from the Temple of Delphi. An ancient Greek religious temple to the pagan god Apollos. Or what is commonly known as Mythology.

So you're using eastern philosophy mixed with ancient paganism which is utilized by "esoteric freemasons" and agnostics, among others.
It's safe to say whatever your starting point is it's not a Christian or biblical one.


And I just spotted where you essentially dismissed the bible. People like you I always see as the lowest. Rather than coming to the site honest and open you sneak in the shadows until your own words expose you. You don't even have the capacity to be brave enough to reveal who you really are. Utter cowardice. Zero respect for such an individual. Such a waste of time.

 

[PS]

Let.s say you have a son..and he did something terible, hurt someone or broke something...you as a parent, would you send him to burn in hell for eternity because of that?...i guess not, cause he's your son and you love him...so i ask you..how could God punish people with an eternity in hell because of their sins...God, who is pure love...he could to that? Isn.t that a little cruel?

I'm going to begin with a secular answer by saying people choose their own path. It is a well-known fact that people are happiest among their own kind. Birds of a feather flock together. Would a wicked person be happy in heaven or would they prefer the company of their own kind? Some choose Christ who will forgive our sins if we truly repent. Others reject Christ. We have that choice and we each choose our own path, one leads to hell, the other to heaven. The son in your question makes his own choice but like the prodigal son, he can always return to the Father. It is HIS choice and his alone and if they chose Christ, he will welcome the sinner with open arms. Just do not blame God when people choose differently. It is not God's fault that people reject Him. So don't blame God for that persons wickedness.

 

[preacher4truth]

You all don't see that the title i put is ironic....I don't think that God is cruel

Sorry, but I'm not buying that.

 

[preacher4truth]

A parent can't send his son to hell. He can only kill his body. The killing of a son can be just in some cases, in spite of the parent's love for him.


God, who is love, punishes people with eternity in hell because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Yes, and the lost are already on their way to hell prior to the "not receiving the love of the truth."

 

[preacher4truth]

I think God has a wonderful place for us to go to when we are done with this life, and that place simply could not be like the heaven God has if unforgiven sin was part of it.

In love God cleared our earth of evil men and started over with men of God so we could live in safety. God ordered men to get rid of the idea of killing babies to give their blood to false gods when he ordered killing of these people so we could live in safety and peace. Evil kills in many ways, the ways of God is for life.

Moloch has now gone after the children yet in the womb. He has given mankind technology to do this, harder hearts have resulted, and they become violent now over their "right" to kill their children.