You are ignoring the history of almost all of the colonial and early states populations went to church. Why are you so adamant about ignoring that history. Only a fraction of the population didn't go to church. That started to change in the 1960s. Today almost half of the population attends church but only a fraction hear the gospel message. The main protestant denominations are secular and the sub denominations and independent churches are the only ones preaching the gospel message. That secularization of denominations started in the 1880s. Gary North wrote the book "Crossed Fingers" documenting the secular takeover of the Presbyterian USA by 1932. Same thing was happening in the other main denominations. Secular ministers wanted access to the churches money. Presbyterian PCA prevents this with the BCO rules about handling money in the denomination. The board of Deacons handles the money. It sets the pay of all employees including the pastor(s). They also decide what committee gets what money they use with the exception of earmarked donations to the church. The pastor(s) is supplied with a relatively small fund for out of pocket mercy giving. For bigger needs the mercy committee decides in consultation with the pastor(s).
The End of a Nation
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Well, maybe if we ignore it it will repeat itself, you want your Christian nation back right?
I have a feeling we are talking about two separate things.
I am speaking to the political and you are speaking more to the societal part.
I will agree that the U.S. had more homogeneous population in the past based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic.
I still think I am right though.
I have a feeling we are talking about two separate things.
I am speaking to the political and you are speaking more to the societal part.
I will agree that the U.S. had more homogeneous population in the past based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic.
I still think I am right though.
The Constitution has the following with respect of religion.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
In Europe and some colonies there was an established religion. Those not adhering to that particular denominations belief were second class citizens. One woman went to a colony and preached her denomination. She was taken to the border and told not to return. She did and was whipped and again escorted to thee border. The last time they did this they warned her she might be executed
She returned and they hung her. That is how serious they felt about their version of Christianity. It is Also why no established religion is allowed.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
In Europe and some colonies there was an established religion. Those not adhering to that particular denominations belief were second class citizens. One woman went to a colony and preached her denomination. She was taken to the border and told not to return. She did and was whipped and again escorted to thee border. The last time they did this they warned her she might be executed
She returned and they hung her. That is how serious they felt about their version of Christianity. It is Also why no established religion is allowed.
Seems like a contradiction to me
That has already happened. He has already cursed us. Knowing the end from the beginning when he set creation into motion he set the solar system with the moon in a special relationship to earth that causes eclipses to signify his condemnation. In history when an eclipse crossed from border to border that nation ceased to be as great as it was. The US was crossed by an eclipse from east to west. In 2024 there will be an eclipse from northeast to southwest crossing 7 cities named Salem. Those eclipses will make an X on the US. Double condemnation!! This country was started from a Christian set of colonies founded on Christian values by Christians having the freedom to worship God in the gospel preaching denomination of their choosing. The early settlers came here to get religious freedom. The pilgrims, quakers, and other groups of Christians. Today the country is almost all secular. Thus the condemnation God.
Well, maybe if we ignore it it will repeat itself, you want your Christian nation back right?
I have a feeling we are talking about two separate things.
I am speaking to the political and you are speaking more to the societal part.
I will agree that the U.S. had more homogeneous population in the past based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic.
I still think I am right though.
I have a feeling we are talking about two separate things.
I am speaking to the political and you are speaking more to the societal part.
I will agree that the U.S. had more homogeneous population in the past based on a Judaeo-Christian ethic.
I still think I am right though.
Thus God's condemnation on the US.
Of the 56 signers of the declaration of independence, 13 were admitted freemasons https://www.mn-masons.org/sites/mn-masons.org/files/6195.doc
dedicated to pantheism science and prosperity and freedom from religious domination. USA, Christian nation? When?
dedicated to pantheism science and prosperity and freedom from religious domination. USA, Christian nation? When?
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It is obvious you are ignorant about the Masonic Order. It has 2 sides to it. Christian and adherents to Judaism. To be a member you must be one or the other unless they changed it. George Washington was a 32 degree Mason. Go peddle your ignorant garbage elsewhere. I don't know where you got that garbage but it is false.
I was under the impression masons are allowed to practice astrology.
And Franklin belonged to the Hell's fire club. The link I posted came from www.mnmasons.org and much of the info came from the history channel.
And Franklin belonged to the Hell's fire club. The link I posted came from www.mnmasons.org and much of the info came from the history channel.
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My father was a Mason and I was a member of the DeMolay a junior Masonic organization like Eastern Star for women. I almost became a Mason but family problems prevented that. I was partway through the membership when I was forced elaswhere. That is why I know so much about it. Wherever you are getting that information is a bogus hate site.
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George Washington was a very committed Christian and member of the Presbyterian church. He never talked about that but lived according to Christian principles. One of the reasons he was so highly esteemed. Try to get correct information before opening mouth and inserting foot. Again you put words in my mouth. I never said we should worship him. Liar!!!
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The religious views of George Washington have long been debated. While some of the Founding Fathers, such as Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Patrick Henry were noted for writing about religion, Washington rarely discussed his religious and philosophical views. His personal letters and public speeches sometimes referred to "Providence."
Who said you said anyone should worship him???? Nobody.
Who said you said anyone should worship him???? Nobody.
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Did I say you did? I said 'I' didn't what are you getting so upset about nobody's pointing at finger at you. He was a clever leader. I don't care if he was a catholic, an atheist or a Buddhist, that wouldn't make him all bad. And so what about the Presbyterian church too? Are they better than the Baptists', Lutherans' or Pentecostals'?
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