What does God want in Christian churches?

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BibleloverBill said:
What does a God-pleasing church include?
What kinds of worship and preaching are pleasing to Abba Father?
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That they not have a floor, walls or a roof?
Acts 7:48 However, the Most High [the One infinitely exalted above humanity] does not dwell in houses made by human hands; as the prophet [Isaiah] says,49 ‘Heaven is My throne,And the earth is the footstool for My feet;
What kind of house will you build for Me?’ says the Lord,‘Or what place is there for My rest?50 ‘Was it not My hand that made all these things?’
 
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SpoonJuly said:
Teach the Word.
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Teach the Word.
SpoonJuly said:
Teach the Word.
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That is the most important. We can't live and share what we don't know. And God's Word is for eternity. None of the other writings have that guaranteed.

***I have shared Philippians 2:1-5 and Ephesians 4:11-16 and Jude 20-23 with thousands hoping that others will do what they can to improve the church they attend. Current Christianity, especially in the USA, has gone so far away from what the First Century Christians did in fellowshipping and learning and witnessing. There is so much Phariseeic like pride and arrogance and gossip and slander and even wrong hatred against individuals (like Evangelist Billy Graham) and other denominations in churches.
 
Lillywolf said:
That they not have a floor, walls or a roof?
Acts 7:48 However, the Most High [the One infinitely exalted above humanity] does not dwell in houses made by human hands; as the prophet [Isaiah] says,49 ‘Heaven is My throne,And the earth is the footstool for My feet;
What kind of house will you build for Me?’ says the Lord,‘Or what place is there for My rest?50 ‘Was it not My hand that made all these things?’
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So if it is 35 degrees and raining, you are still going to meet under that tree and praise God.
If the building is what is important, that is wrong, but there is nothing wrong with a local church meeting in a warm dry building.
Did not Jesus gather with the Aposiles in the upper room?
 
BibleloverBill said:
Teach the Word.



That is the most important. We can't live and share what we don't know. And God's Word is for eternity. None of the other writings have that guaranteed.

***I have shared Philippians 2:1-5 and Ephesians 4:11-16 and Jude 20-23 with thousands hoping that others will do what they can to improve the church they attend. Current Christianity, especially in the USA, has gone so far away from what the First Century Christians did in fellowshipping and learning and witnessing. There is so much Phariseeic like pride and arrogance and gossip and slander and even wrong hatred against individuals (like Evangelist Billy Graham) and other denominations in churches.
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The Word provides all our needs.
But, few know the Word, and those who do to often only teach the part that supports their dogma.
 
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Lillywolf said:
That they not have a floor, walls or a roof?
Acts 7:48 However, the Most High [the One infinitely exalted above humanity] does not dwell in houses made by human hands; as the prophet [Isaiah] says,49 ‘Heaven is My throne,And the earth is the footstool for My feet;
What kind of house will you build for Me?’ says the Lord,‘Or what place is there for My rest?50 ‘Was it not My hand that made all these things?’
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God isn't pleased with extravagant church buildings and gymnasiums. He was for simple synagogues and then just simple houses for daily fellowship and Scripture learning. But most pastors are against such because they want to control and not allow any false doctrines to creep in. But what does Ephesians 4:11-16 indicate that their main role is to be along with being a wonderful husband and father?
 
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SpoonJuly said:
So if it is 35 degrees and raining, you are still going to meet under that tree and praise God.
If the building is what is important, that is wrong, but there is nothing wrong with a local church meeting in a warm dry building.
Did not Jesus gather with the Aposiles in the upper room?
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That's precisely how God's house became the focus rather than the individual believer being the temple of God, and the body in total of the faithful the church of God in Christ.

When Jesus gave his sermon on the mountain was he indoors?


Concerning the upper room do you notice what's missing in the scriptures that speak of that?

There wasn't a whole congregation gathered there to worship. It was a sanctuary within which Jesus and his Disciples conferred among one another.
While when Jesus taught God's message he did so out in the open.

Home churches are examples of like minded temples of Christ can gather so as to not be impacted by the seasonal elements.
 
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Lillywolf said:
That's precisely how God's house became the focus rather than the individual believer being the temple of God, and the body in total of the faithful the church of God in Christ.

When Jesus gave his sermon on the mountain was he indoors?


Concerning the upper room do you notice what's missing in the scriptures that speak of that?

There wasn't a whole congregation gathered there to worship. It was a sanctuary within which Jesus and his Disciples conferred among one another.
While when Jesus taught God's message he did so out in the open.

Home churches are examples of like minded temples of Christ can gather so as to not be impacted by the seasonal elements.
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Nothing wrong with home churches. Nothing wrong with teaching outdoors. Nothing wrong with teaching in a warm dry building.
Jesus taught the multitudes outdoors because there were just so many and he was not allowed to do so in the synagogues.
What is important is the teaching, not the where.
What are you going to do if more continue to show up at your home church than you have room for?
Starting another home church is not always an option if you do not have some one who is qualified to teach.
You either turn them away or you seek a larger place to gather and teach.
Be careful that you do not condemn a local church just because they have a building and 50, 80, 200, or 500 attending.
Often these larger churches have the money to help the needy that a small home church does not.
Now I will agree that the larger the crowd the more the chance to err.
But, that is not always the case.
 
SpoonJuly said:
Nothing wrong with home churches. Nothing wrong with teaching outdoors. Nothing wrong with teaching in a warm dry building.
Jesus taught the multitudes outdoors because there were just so many and he was not allowed to do so in the synagogues.
What is important is the teaching, not the where.
What are you going to do if more continue to show up at your home church than you have room for?
Starting another home church is not always an option if you do not have some one who is qualified to teach.
You either turn them away or you seek a larger place to gather and teach.
Be careful that you do not condemn a local church just because they have a building and 50, 80, 200, or 500 attending.
Often these larger churches have the money to help the needy that a small home church does not.
Now I will agree that the larger the crowd the more the chance to err.
But, that is not always the case.
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It comes down to what the believer feels comfortable with.
 
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I believe loving God and loving one another are pleasing to God-- and edifying one another through the gifts God provides-- prophecy, teaching, exhortation, other types of revelation, tongues together with intepretation, and of course singing.
 
What often leads to our misunderstanding each other when we use the word church is our definition of the word.
Some always use the word only for all the saved, the children of God.
They do not see each and every local assembly (church).
When I say church, I am always referring to a local, visible body of believers.
 
BibleloverBill said:
What does a God-pleasing church include?
What kinds of worship and preaching are pleasing to Abba Father?
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Study Acts chapter 2, which tells us about the first church to come into existence. That should be the pattern for all churches, starting with the true and full Gospel.
 
Lillywolf said:
Likely so.
Wouldn't such people be those whom God has not called to find their way to his son?
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Not always.
Even the apostles had difficulty believing, accepting the death of Christ.
It was only after His resurrection and coming to them that they began to understand and rejoice.
 
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