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BillG said:
In a nutshell what is 'Free grace theology?

I agree with you in the sense that grace is not free because a great price had to be paid but if Jesus paid the price is it not free to those who bank the cheque as such?

We know that Paul addressed this in Romans 6.
Grace is not a licence to sin.
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It's a theological system from DTS. It teaches no matter what, if a person "believes" they go to heaven. Even if later they're shown to be apostate. According to Zane Hodges one can even become a child of the devil and still get in. He's from DTS as well. Charles Stanley teaches the same things. So does Chuck Swindoll.

I don't buy their take whatsoever. Keep in mind this system originated c. 1900 from Lewis Sperry Chafer of DTS. So, if it's new it's not true. It's just repackaged antinomianism imho.
 
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dcontroversal said:
The above drivel has NOTHING to do with what I said about my Uncle and those who I have dealt with that come out of Dallas.....and now you resort to twisted personal attacks to try and make me look bad while lifting your own view up....and too be honest 2/3rd of what you posted in your your paragraph is not only false, but idiotic as well.....You assume much and then in error post that which is not true...ALL of the underlined is false...get your facts straight before you lie about me pal.....WOW....surprised you have sunken to this level......speaks multitudes about your character
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At least VCO's bias hasn't blinded him...lolzzzz
 
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preacher4truth said:
It's a theological system from DTS. It teaches no matter what, if a person "believes" they go to heaven. Even if later they're shown to be apostate. According to Zane Hodges one can even become a child of the devil and still get in. He's from DTS as well. Charles Stanley teaches the same things. So does Chuck Swindoll.

I don't buy their take whatsoever. Keep in mind this system originated c. 1900 from Lewis Sperry Chafer of DTS. So, if it's new it's not true. It's just repackaged antinomianism imho.
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Can a child of God revert back to a child of the devil?

Is what you are saying the same as Hyper-grace
 
Revelation 3:2
Be watchful and strengthen the things that remain, which are ready to die. For I find not thy works full before my God.
 
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Hevosmies said:
In-fighting going on right here. Oy vey!

I showed up late to the beef. You and Preacher vs VCO, or are there other battlers involved?
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There really is no fight...I have dealt with no less than 5 to 7 preachers that have come out of the Dallas Theological Seminary, including a relative, and they have all peddled something that is not biblical....I quoted my dissatisfaction with said seminary and he went on a rant mouthing.....end of story....
 
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dcontroversal said:
There really is no fight...I have dealt with no less than 5 to 7 preachers that have come out of the Dallas Theological Seminary, including a relative, and they have all peddled something that is not biblical....I quoted my dissatisfaction with said seminary and he went on a rant mouthing.....end of story....
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Other than the pre-trib rapture, what dont you agree about with them? Sounds same to me.
 
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Revelation 3:8
I know thy WORKS. Behold, I have given before thee a door opened, which no man can shut: because thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
 
Hevosmies said:
Other than the pre-trib rapture, what dont you agree about with them? Sounds same to me.
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Open communion
Universal Church
Pulpit sharing with different religions that teach different gospels
Being Ecumenical
Free Grace

just to name 5 off the top of my head.........I have dealt with the above from preachers that came from Dallas.........
 
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theanointedwinner said:
5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, (Titus 3:5 NIV)

let's agree with Titus 3:5 that we are saved, not by righteous works, but by God's mercy

I hope we can agree with the Bible verse, instead of denying Titus 3:5,

I hope we don't pretend that Titus 3:5 is a misprint,
and we don't try to brush this verse under a rug
and we don't claim that Titus 3:5 is a mis-translation
and we don't claim that Titus 3:5 is illegitimate

I hope

may we all trust that Titus 3:5 is a legit bible verse that all can properly interpret, even long before dcontroversal ever laid eyes on the wonderous verse of Titus 3:5 and the eyes of David was pleased.
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and also, let's trust that, the verse belongs in the Holy Bible
 
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Revelation 3:15
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold, nor hot. I would thou wert cold, or hot.
 
Two kinds of Wisdom
...Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. James 3:13-18
dcontroversal said:
There really is no fight...I have dealt with no less than 5 to 7 preachers that have come out of the Dallas Theological Seminary, including a relative, and they have all peddled something that is not biblical....I quoted my dissatisfaction with said seminary and he went on a rant mouthing.....end of story....
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Argueless said:
Two kinds of Wisdom
...Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. James 3:13-18
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The above has no bearing on my post below.....so what is your point?

dcontroversal said:
There really is no fight...I have dealt with no less than 5 to 7 preachers that have come out of the Dallas Theological Seminary, including a relative, and they have all peddled something that is not biblical....I quoted my dissatisfaction with said seminary and he went on a rant mouthing.....end of story....
 
Revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven, saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, who die in the Lord. From henceforth now, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; for THEIR WORKS FOLLOW THEM.
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dcontroversal said:
Open communion
Universal Church
Pulpit sharing with different religions that teach different gospels
Being Ecumenical
Free Grace

just to name 5 off the top of my head.........I have dealt with the above from preachers that came from Dallas.........
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One has to be careful around here when saying Free Grace in a derogatory fashion. Heads explode because they don't know what FGT is.

"You don't believe in free grace????? You're a false teacher, of the devil, on your way to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!" :po_O:eek:
 
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