Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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GraceAndTruth

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"Calvinist" patriarchs - Irenaeus, Hippolytus, Clement, Polycarp, Tertullian, Augustine, Luther, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Justin Martyr, Zwengli, Hus, Calvin, Beza, ..........well of course the apostles who wrote those great gospels and letters to the church.
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
"Calvinist" patriarchs - Irenaeus, Hippolytus, Clement, Polycarp, Tertullian, Augustine, Luther, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Justin Martyr, Zwengli, Hus, Calvin, Beza, ..........well of course the apostles who wrote those great gospels and letters to the church.
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To just believe in election or predestination will not make anybody to be a calvinist. Therefore most of your list is incorrect.
 
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trofimus said:
What you are against is so called indifferent will, i.e. all choices are of the same value to you and you do not have any inclination.

Such will does not exist.
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People are born damaged goods, The Creator is the only one who can fix us.
 
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MORE RECENT CALVINISTS YEAHHHH
Spurgeon, John Bunyan, Johnathan Edwards, Boyce, Gill, Strong, Knox, Hodge, Boettner........George Whitfield,,,,,I got more

Gotta love the truth
 
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Pilgrims and Puritans were all 'calvinists/reformers)
All the big 10 colleges were founded by calvinist pastors so that their mininters would not be ignornant
 
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trofimus said:
To just believe in election or predestination will not make anybody to be a calvinist. Therefore most of your list is incorrect.
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the SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD is the issue, the only issue
Look up the word sovereign
 
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We both have the same destination. We just interpret the scriptures differently. I also believe in God's power and if it is his will to save all mankind, then he does have the power to do just that.
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it is his will to save ALL WHO SEES AND BELIEVES.

Thats is what Jesus said, I would trust Jesus,
 
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dcontroversal said:
What is even worse is when you have one who claims he believes in eternal security turn around and slam me because I make a stand against the deceitful lies peddled to make those who believe in eternal security look bad....................
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Yikes! Sounds like a vicious circle! Around and around we go! :eek:
 
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moderaters need to be moderate and set an example
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patrons need to show some humility,

If said moderator comes in and says something to some one, I would listen up. He does nto come in here much, Maybe for once show some humility and understand you may be wrong.
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
ahem......the term 'calvinisim' was not known when Paul wrote that.
Paul was referring to all apostate teaching.
How can you be a baptist and not believe at least 4 of the 5 points? I'm sure you agree with the Solas and the Trinity, and differ with me on Eschatology. I see a hatefulness in your posts that does not reflect well on you. I'm sure y0u can do better.
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I was a baptist.. I did not agree with 4. At most I am 3 point.

And may I make a suggestion? Practice what you preach. You need to see how you are talking to people before you start judging them
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
patrons need to show some humility,

If said moderator comes in and says something to some one, I would listen up. He does nto come in here much, Maybe for once show some humility and understand you may be wrong.
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You might take that to heart, about humility and understanding.........that sort of thing.
 
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And that was really necessary?? YOu need a time out, my post was not directed to anyone specically. Your own guilty conscience made you own it.
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His post was not directed at anyone either. He just responded to your post.

Again, Practice what you preach man..You keep attacking others this way when you are doing the very thing yourself.. Things usually do not go well
 
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God gives the eyes to see and the ears to hear,......and faith.

God has CAUSED YOU to be born again 1 Peter 1:3
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Yep he did. Because he offered me the same GIFT he offered the world. And instead of boasting like the pharisee, Or loving myself so much I was willing to continue in death, I became the tax collector and called on the name of the lord to be saved.

Again, As Jesus said, All who see and believes in him has eternal life, and will be raised on the last day, And Jesus will lose no one (eternal security based on Gods faithfullness. Not my own)
 
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GraceAndTruth said:
You might take that to heart, about humility and understanding.........that sort of thing.
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I have been humbled many times, God loves to do that to people. And I praise God he does it.

I still pray you can be humbled. Sadly, from past calvinists who have come, Something about that group and pride is hard to break. They love to judge, But they refuse to take admonishment.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
I have been humbled many times, God loves to do that to people. And I praise God he does it.

I still pray you can be humbled. Sadly, from past calvinists who have come, Something about that group and pride is hard to break. They love to judge, But they refuse to take admonishment.
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ROFL.........right back at ya!!! Careful when you throw those rubber insults, they tend to bounce right back on you.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Yep he did. Because he offered me the same GIFT he offered the world. And instead of boasting like the pharisee, Or loving myself so much I was willing to continue in death, I became the tax collector and called on the name of the lord to be saved.

Again, As Jesus said, All who see and believes in him has eternal life, and will be raised on the last day, And Jesus will lose no one (eternal security based on Gods faithfullness. Not my own)
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CAUSE AND EFFECT ARE NOT CHOICES.
An example I gave awhile back.......drink poison you die. CAUSE -poison, EFFECT - death. Now you might say that you can choose to not drink the poison, to which I am saying, drink or not does not change the fact that it IS poison and the effect IS death.

Ergo: The cause does not change and neither does the effect
God causes, then you are born again.
No cause, no effect.
 
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