The Behavior of The Saved and Condemned

[unctus]

John 13:34​

A new commandment I give unto you,​

That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​

that ye also love one another.​

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The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​

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The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​

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Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​

If so point them out to me.​

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Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​

or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​

Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​

the statements I made to you.​

​

Thank you.​

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[glf1]

Hey! unctus... PTL!
Gal 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
2 Pet 1:5-8 "And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith; virtue and to virtue knowledge; and to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; and to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. for it these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Each of the fruits of the Spirit are grown and it varies from person to person as to which fruits are grown first. The measure of this growth is seen in some, 30 fold; and in others, 60 fold; and in still others, 100 fold. To love others as Jesus loves us is the goal by which we all should be striving to attain. And since the Lord is so much greater than we are, there will always be a little more of the fruits of the Spirit for us to grow into. The extent of Jesus' love is revealed in his words to the Father, in Jn 17 "that you have loved them as you have loved me." Or "for the joy set before him he suffered death, even the death upon the Cross;" His joy was in making us to be one with the Lord forever.

Lu 6:32 " For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? For sinners also love those that love them."
The lost are also able to love others and since we come to the Lord as we are and then are cleansed by the washing of water with the word; many a new born believer will be worse than the lost until Christ is formed within them.

For the most part though, one could say of the lost, "ye are of your father the devil and his works ye do." Whereas the just shall live by faith. The difference between belief and faith is that faith is based upon the illuminated word of God and will always produce works appropriate to repentance in those who have it.
Maranatha!

 

[unctus]

Hey! unctus... PTL!
Gal 5:22 "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
2 Pet 1:5-8 "And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith; virtue and to virtue knowledge; and to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; and to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. for it these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Each of the fruits of the Spirit are grown and it varies from person to person as to which fruits are grown first. The measure of this growth is seen in some, 30 fold; and in others, 60 fold; and in still others, 100 fold. To love others as Jesus loves us is the goal by which we all should be striving to attain. And since the Lord is so much greater than we are, there will always be a little more of the fruits of the Spirit for us to grow into. The extent of Jesus' love is revealed in his words to the Father, in Jn 17 "that you have loved them as you have loved me." Or "for the joy set before him he suffered death, even the death upon the Cross;" His joy was in making us to be one with the Lord forever.

Lu 6:32 " For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? For sinners also love those that love them."
The lost are also able to love others and since we come to the Lord as we are and then are cleansed by the washing of water with the word; many a new born believer will be worse than the lost until Christ is formed within them.

For the most part though, one could say of the lost, "ye are of your father the devil and his works ye do." Whereas the just shall live by faith. The difference between belief and faith is that faith is based upon the illuminated word of God and will always produce works appropriate to repentance in those who have it.
Maranatha!

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.

The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.
The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.

A. True
B. False
C. None of the above

 

[unctus]

The reason God will cast them into hell :

A. Good works

B. Evil works

C. None of the above

 

[Quantrill]

John 13:34​

A new commandment I give unto you,​

That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​

that ye also love one another.​

​

The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​

If so point them out to me.​

​

Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​

or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​

Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​

the statements I made to you.​

​

Thank you.​

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You ought not say no theories, or doctrines, or theologies, or opinions when you ask the question...'Is there any errors or flaws in this'?​

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If you don't want someones opinion, why do you even ask? What do you want someone to say? That you are right?​

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Quantrill​

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[Dino246]

John 13:34​

A new commandment I give unto you,​

That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​

that ye also love one another.​

​

The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​

If so point them out to me.​

​

Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​

or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​

Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​

the statements I made to you.​

​

Thank you.​

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Your reasoning is flawed. You have given your interpretation of Scripture (bolded), and it is not sound because it is not consistent with the whole counsel of Scripture.

The reason God will cast them into hell :

A. Good works

B. Evil works

C. None of the above

There is no need to use boldface type on your entire post.

 

[unctus]

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Your reasoning is flawed. You have given your interpretation of Scripture (bolded), and it is not sound because it is not consistent with the whole counsel of Scripture.

Which one is flawed and not true?

A.
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.

B. The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.

C. The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.

 

[unctus]

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You ought not say no theories, or doctrines, or theologies, or opinions when you ask the question...'Is there any errors or flaws in this'?​

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If you don't want someones opinion, why do you even ask? What do you want someone to say? That you are right?​

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Quantrill​

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Proverbs
Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Isaiah 1:14
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth:
they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Zechariah 8:17
And let none of you imagine evil
in your hearts against his neighbour;
and love no false oath: for all these are things
that I hate, saith the LORD.

Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau,
and laid his mountains and his heritage
waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Luke
Chapter 14
Verse 26

If any man come to me,
and hate not his father,
and mother,
and wife,
and children,
and brethren,
and sisters,
yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

THE FRUIT OF THE RIGHT SPIRIT IS HATE

True or false?

 

[Quantrill]

Proverbs
Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Isaiah 1:14
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth:
they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Zechariah 8:17
And let none of you imagine evil
in your hearts against his neighbour;
and love no false oath: for all these are things
that I hate, saith the LORD.

Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau,
and laid his mountains and his heritage
waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Luke
Chapter 14
Verse 26

If any man come to me,
and hate not his father,
and mother,
and wife,
and children,
and brethren,
and sisters,
yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

THE FRUIT OF THE RIGHT SPIRIT IS HATE

True or false?

True. As long as you hate the things God hates, which you would if it was the fruit of the Spirit.

Quantrill

 

[1ofthem]

John 13:34​

A new commandment I give unto you,​

That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​

that ye also love one another.​

​

This part, John 13:34, is definitely true.

​

The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​

If so point them out to me.​

​

Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​

or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​

Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​

the statements I made to you.​

​

Thank you.​

​

This part is kind of your opinion so I don't really know unless you back it up with more scripture.​

Here's my opinion though... Sure, a saved person should always love others as Jesus did...But will they have weak moments and not love others as Jesus did and fall short. I'm sure they will, but do you think that means they are not saved? Just asking????​

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[1ofthem]

Proverbs
Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Isaiah 1:14
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth:
they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Zechariah 8:17
And let none of you imagine evil
in your hearts against his neighbour;
and love no false oath: for all these are things
that I hate, saith the LORD.

Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau,
and laid his mountains and his heritage
waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Luke
Chapter 14
Verse 26

If any man come to me,
and hate not his father,
and mother,
and wife,
and children,
and brethren,
and sisters,
yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

THE FRUIT OF THE RIGHT SPIRIT IS HATE

True or false?

Hate the game not the player... I mean hate the sin not the sinner.

Once again this is just my opinion, but I'm pretty sure Luke Chapter 14 is not really instructing us to hate other people, but to put God first. We need to rightly divide the Word of God and read the scriptures with discernment . Not just with our carnal minds.

He that hath and ear let him hear...

 

[dcontroversal]

John 13:34​

A new commandment I give unto you,​

That ye love one another; as I have loved you,​

that ye also love one another.​

​

The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.​

​

Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?​

If so point them out to me.​

​

Please no theories or doctrines or theologies​

or your opinions of what you believe as the truth.​

Just point out any errors or flaws you can find within​

the statements I made to you.​

​

Thank you.​

​

I would add that loving God and each other as we should, is a process of growth and maturity.......there are numerous verses that testify to the truth I just posted........even Peter speaks to this truth...add to your faith..........there is a list of 7 and LOVE is the last one on the list....and we are to let the Love of GOD be PERFECTED (matured and grown) in US.....

 

[Nehemiah6]

Is there any errors or flaws in this I have stated to you?

No. That is correct.

 

[1ofthem]

Hate the game not the player... I mean hate the sin not the sinner.

Once again this is just my opinion, but I'm pretty sure Luke Chapter 14 is not really instructing us to hate other people, but to put God first. We need to rightly divide the Word of God and read the scriptures with discernment . Not just with our carnal minds.

He that hath and ear let him hear...

Forgot to add this.....

Matthew 5:46 Context

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

 

[Dino246]

Which one is flawed and not true?

A.
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you,
That ye love one another; as I have loved you,
that ye also love one another.

B. The saved will love you as Jesus loved them.

C. The condemned will not love you as Jesus loved them.

I'm not playing your silly game. When you are ready to discuss, let me know.

 

[unctus]

What kind of behavior is this:

I'm not playing your silly game. When you are ready to discuss, let me know.

A. Good

B. Evil

C. None of the above.

 

[unctus]

I would add that loving God and each other as we should, is a process of growth and maturity.......there are numerous verses that testify to the truth I just posted........even Peter speaks to this truth...add to your faith..........there is a list of 7 and LOVE is the last one on the list....and we are to let the Love of GOD be PERFECTED (matured and grown) in US.....

Have you ever noticed little children
do not need to grow in maturity or anything
to love unconditionally as Jesus commanded you.

How do you account for it?

 

[unctus]

Once again this is just my opinion, but I'm pretty sure Luke Chapter 14 is not really instructing us to hate other people, but to put God first. We need to rightly divide the Word of God and read the scriptures with discernment . Not just with our carnal minds.

Is there any part of the bible
that you can take to be the truth word for word as it is written
without having to explain it as to be able to believe
just as it was intended to be taken as the truth?

 

[Lillywolf]

I'm not playing your silly game. When you are ready to discuss, let me know.

There is something very familiar about the posting style of this new member. Do you see it?

 

[unctus]

There is something very familiar about the posting style of this new member. Do you see it?

Yes it is in Spirit and truth.

Is that a problem with you?

Do you hate the truth so much that you want to run me off?

Is that what you want

you want me to leave?