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theanointedsinner

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like a silver stake against a vampire's heart

is my abrasive reflective honesty that will hopefully make the doctrine of sinless perfectionism refuted and drop like flies
may posthuman continue to specialize in science, just as how I will find my own specialty

or how everyone will find their own gifts
 
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Ariel82

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Here is one you might like....

Biblical version of the Big Bang:

God spoke, Bang the universe was created.
 

Argueless

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Wrong again...works of any flavor do not save, keep saved, top off salvation or finish salvation which is a one off eternal experience based entirely upon grace and faith. It has a present continuing result from a past completed action......and no offence, but pray for yourself that God opens your eyes to biblical salvation before you find yourself in the plenteous in number grouping...YOU, like ALL workers for, are conflating justification with ongoing sanctification......a very deadly mistake with eternal consequence........
Imitating Christ’s Humility If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Shining as Stars Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. Do everything without complaining or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe as you hold out the word of life—in order that I may boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor for nothing. But even if I am being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and service coming from your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you. So you too should be glad and rejoice with me. Philippians 2:1-18

New International Version 1984 Philippians 3:12-16 Pressing on Toward the Goal Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. Only let us live up to what we have already attained.
 
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Ariel82

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how our empathy-expert doing today?
Lol I like the nickname Princess better....cuz you know all Christian women are Princesses, we are daughters of the King of Kings.

Doing alright. Bedtime. Hoping all the kids stay safe.

My daughter said a friend of hers was given a to stir roll someone placed a needle inide of last year.

It makes me very mad and sad someone would give kids that
 
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theanointedsinner

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I wonder how Jesus feels ...

As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." (Romans 2:24)

nevermind, the bad parts of the BDF experience
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a huge number in magnitudes
 

TruthTalk

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Imitating Christ’s Humility If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Shining as Stars Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. Do everything without complaining or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe as you hold out the word of life—in order that I may boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor for nothing. But even if I am being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and service coming from your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you. So you too should be glad and rejoice with me. Philippians 2:1-18

New International Version 1984 Philippians 3:12-16 Pressing on Toward the Goal Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. Only let us live up to what we have already attained.
Adding paragraphs to your posts makes reading easier on the eyes and no headaches.

God bless and thanks for your sympathy
 

VCO

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Anyway. If you believe that God created each "kind" of animals, then evolution happens after God created them to show the diversity of animals we have today. Also evolution is the tool God uses to help human and animals adapt to the worstening conditions caused by sin and mankinds continued rebellion against God (example: pollution and it's link to cancer).

In Genesis it says God gives Adam and all the animals plants as food. After Noah God gives them animals. However before the flood there was violence and blood shed by all of creation not just humans. The Bible makes laws about not eating meat with the blood still in the animal, which means people might have ate animals while they were still alive.

All this to say that science or evolutionary theory agrees that most likely animals and humans ate plants before evolving to eat meat

Jesus tells us these bodies are temporary tents made to die. Our resurrection Bodie will be very different from our current ones.

I GOT NEWS FOR YOU, THAT IS NOT EVOLUTION. IT IS CALLED HYBRIDIZATION. You are Not a farm boy, are you? Every Species of DOGS, is from the Extant Grey Wolf. ALL NOAH HAD TO HAVE IS A PAIR OF THOSE EXTANT GREY WOLVES, to have all the species of Dogs we now have in the world today and they Hybridized into every sub-species of dog we have. Here is a except from WIKIPEDIA to prove it to you.

The domestic dog is a member of the genus Canis, which forms part of the wolf-like canids, and is the most widely abundant terrestrial carnivore.[1][2][3][4][5] The closest living relative of the dog is the extant gray wolf, and there is no evidence of any other canine contributing to its genetic lineage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_domestic_dog
 

Deade

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I GOT NEWS FOR YOU, THAT IS NOT EVOLUTION. IT IS CALLED HYBRIDIZATION. You are Not a farm boy, are you? Every Species of DOGS, is from the Extant Grey Wolf. ALL NOAH HAD TO HAVE IS A PAIR OF THOSE EXTANT GREY WOLVES, to have all the species of Dogs we now have in the world today and they Hybridized into every sub-species of dog we have. Here is a except from WIKIPEDIA to prove it to you.
You might call it hybridization, but that suggests somebody was messing with it. Which is true for dogs and cattle, pretty much. What about cave fish losing their eyesight or even their eyes. What about bovines adapting their diets to live on scrub brush, like bison and longhorns. Some call that microevolution, I call it adaption. ;)

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gb9

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good morning blue! wow, you are up early today, barley 5 a.m.!!
 
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Ariel82

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I GOT NEWS FOR YOU, THAT IS NOT EVOLUTION. IT IS CALLED HYBRIDIZATION. You are Not a farm boy, are you? Every Species of DOGS, is from the Extant Grey Wolf. ALL NOAH HAD TO HAVE IS A PAIR OF THOSE EXTANT GREY WOLVES, to have all the species of Dogs we now have in the world today and they Hybridized into every sub-species of dog we have. Here is a except from WIKIPEDIA to prove it to you.
Dog breed are created by human selection.

The rest of the world's species is created by "natural selection" or God's guiding hand to have animals and plants to adapt to the continued decrease in ideal conditions of this world as it moves farther and farther away from him due to sin. More obvious form is pollution and destruction of the ozone.


What I refer to is evolution just not the crap people mix in where they reject God's CREATION.

The Big Bang theory is a totally different conversation but often mixed together with evolution, which is a mistake.
 
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Ariel82

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You might call it hybridization, but that suggests somebody was messing with it. Which is true for dogs and cattle, pretty much. What about cave fish losing their eyesight or even their eyes. What about bovines adapting their diets to live on scrub brush, like bison and longhorns. Some call that microevolution, I call it adaption. ;)

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I agree. It doesn't matter to me if people call it microeconomics or adaptation.

Adaptation, natural selection, bottleneck, and other concepts of evolutionary theory are not opposed to the Bible.

To me it is just God's way of changing plants and animals made to live in paradise, into animals and plants that can live in this fallen world and it's conditions.

If people want to toss the baby out with the bath water, they can choose to help Satan along and do it.