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I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.(Genesis 18:21)

God could not have known what was going on unless He came down to earth and see it for himself by using that logic.
 
Fulldeck said:
And in that communication he repents - changes his mind. (Jonah 3:10)
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You actually said it right, now... even though it was not your intention.

Yep, God repents "in that communication towards men", not in His eternal perfect state. It only appears so to us.
 
trofimus said:
Yep, God repents "in that communication towards men", not in His eternal perfect state. It only appears so to us
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No. It can't be anymore plain. He said he would destroy Nineveh. Nineveh turned. God changed his mind and didn't. If he didn't change his mind he would have destroyed Nineveh regardless. There's absolutely nothing scriptural about God not being able to change his mind.

You're trying too hard with "anthropomorphism" to say God doesn't change his mind. It's clear people want to hold onto their works-salvation perversion of repentance here.
 
Fulldeck said:
No. It can't be anymore plain. He said he would destroy Nineveh. Nineveh turned. God changed his mind and didn't. If he didn't change his mind he would have destroyed Nineveh regardless. There's absolutely nothing scriptural about God not being able to change his mind.

You're trying too hard with "anthropomorphism" to say God doesn't change his mind. It's clear people want to hold onto their works-salvation perversion of repentance here.
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Does God have wings my friend?
 
Fulldeck said:
No. It can't be anymore plain. He said he would destroy Nineveh. Nineveh turned. God changed his mind and didn't. If he didn't change his mind he would have destroyed Nineveh regardless. There's absolutely nothing scriptural about God not being able to change his mind.

You're trying too hard with "anthropomorphism" to say God doesn't change his mind. It's clear people want to hold onto their works-salvation perversion of repentance here.
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Actually, I am not trying hard at all. Everybody who has a reason can understand what anthropomorphism is. And the general teaching of the Church agrees that God knows everything. Which excludes a literal reading of such comments made in the Bible.

You are the one going outside of the church view, so you should try harder than just repeat "it must be literal". Your view also makes you to accept contradictions in the Bible.
 
trofimus said:
God knows everything.
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Of course he does. That's a rather silly reason for thinking he can't change his mind. The Bible simply doesn't say he can't. In fact it says he can. And if you would like me to refer to you where such can be found:

God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
 
Fulldeck said:
Of course he does. That's a rather silly reason for thinking he can't change his mind.
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If God knows everything (including future) and if God does not change, He cannot change His mind. Simple.

God does not change:

You are still the same
Psalm (101 LXX) 102:27

Every good act of giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of shifting.
James 1:17

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and to the ages.
Heb 13:8

Fulldeck said:
The Bible simply doesn't say he can't.
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1 Sam (1Kings in Septuagint):

29 And Israel shall be divided to two: and [God] will not turn nor repent, for he is not as a man to repent.

35 And Samuel did not see Saul again till the day of his death, for Samuel mourned after Saul, and the Lord repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.

So, if both statements are literaly true, we have what? Yep, a contradiction. These two verses were left next to each other for thousands of years. Why? Because its not a contradiction, "repent" there means two different things.


Fulldeck said:
In fact it says he can. And if you would like me to refer to you where such can be found: God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
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Anthropomorphism.
 
Fulldeck said:
Of course he does. That's a rather silly reason for thinking he can't change his mind. The Bible simply doesn't say he can't. In fact it says he can. And if you would like me to refer to you where such can be found:

God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
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Does God have wings my friend?
 
Fulldeck said:
No. It can't be anymore plain. He said he would destroy Nineveh. Nineveh turned. God changed his mind and didn't. If he didn't change his mind he would have destroyed Nineveh regardless. There's absolutely nothing scriptural about God not being able to change his mind.

You're trying too hard with "anthropomorphism" to say God doesn't change his mind. It's clear people want to hold onto their works-salvation perversion of repentance here.
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Do you read anything for help in interpreting Scripture other than something by Jack Hyles or Peter S. Ruckman? ;)

Or are you one who reads no one else, and get all your teaching directly from God?
 
Fulldeck said:
Of course he does. That's a rather silly reason for thinking he can't change his mind. The Bible simply doesn't say he can't. In fact it says he can. And if you would like me to refer to you where such can be found:

God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
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Again my friend, does God have wings?
 
Fulldeck said:
So by your logic

"the Bible says God created all things, but thats anthropomorphic language, he didn't really create all things".
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There is nothing logical about this. I think you do not understand what "anthropomophism" means.

Its derived from the Greek word "anthropos", meaning "human, man".

Anthropomorphism means that men describe God, animals or nature in a human manner, i.e. "God will "remember", God "repented", God has "strong hands", mountains "sing", trees "bow down" etc. When you understand this, there is nothing logical in calling "God created everything" as "anthropomorphism".
 
trofimus said:
There is nothing logical about this. I think you do not understand what "anthropomophism" means.

Its derived from the Greek word "anthropos", meaning "human, man".

Anthropomorphism means that men describe God in a human manner, i.e. "God will "remember", God "repented", God has "strong hands" etc. When you understand this, there is nothing logical to call "God created everything" as "anthropomorphism".
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It is accepted in all of Christianity that God does not posses eyes, hands, ears, mouth, feet, etc., yet many places ascribe them to Him.

Anthropomorphism.
 
trofimus said:
He seems to ignore all questions that do not fit his view, I am also still waiting for the explanation of 1Sam.
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Fulldeck said:
So by your logic

"the Bible says God created all things, but thats anthropomorphic language, he didn't really create all things".

God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
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Was God showing forth human characteristics in Genesis 1 at creation?

How many humans have created the world?
 
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