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Because as a Christians we're to have fellowship, but when one have gifts it offend many Christians, and they want to isolate, and they do not want gifted Christians to have fellowship with them so many people become isolated for simply having gifts.
Acts 2:17
"'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
1 Cor. 1:9, "For God is faithful through whom you were called into Fellowship with His Son Christ Jesus."
It's very hard to have fellowship when you're sharing supernatural with other Christians especially over the internet when they block people for simply disagreeing.
Acts 2:17
"'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
1 Cor. 1:9, "For God is faithful through whom you were called into Fellowship with His Son Christ Jesus."
It's very hard to have fellowship when you're sharing supernatural with other Christians especially over the internet when they block people for simply disagreeing.
I go to a non denominational church, and yes I mean from any general christian chat, and I notice it's hard to have fellowship with Christians that disagree, and they are always wanting to argue, and want to change me, and they do not like my relationship I have with Christ.
You see I went through a cult that claim they are a Christian, but I learn how to discern from a deceiving cult they sworn they are a Christian, and they promised me that they use the Bible. So I humble, and I went along with it then I found out that they are lying, and doesn't follow the Bible because I practice 1 John 4.
When I practice 1 John 4 the Spirit of God open my ears, and eyes, and I saw lighting striking in the room about one foot long sparking all over the place in many colors, and I look outside I saw the spark it was dark, and it lit up outside like real lightning. I do not know how, but it was a phenomenal experience.
Now my ears are open I hear the heaven, and I hear everything the spirits, and all, and I heard amazing sound, angel singing, and all kind of sound.
Till this day I am still hearing the heaven, and hear many things because when you test the spirits you're actually putting yourself into a spiritual world where you test the spirits with spirits vs spirits.
1 John 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
You see I went through a cult that claim they are a Christian, but I learn how to discern from a deceiving cult they sworn they are a Christian, and they promised me that they use the Bible. So I humble, and I went along with it then I found out that they are lying, and doesn't follow the Bible because I practice 1 John 4.
When I practice 1 John 4 the Spirit of God open my ears, and eyes, and I saw lighting striking in the room about one foot long sparking all over the place in many colors, and I look outside I saw the spark it was dark, and it lit up outside like real lightning. I do not know how, but it was a phenomenal experience.
Now my ears are open I hear the heaven, and I hear everything the spirits, and all, and I heard amazing sound, angel singing, and all kind of sound.
Till this day I am still hearing the heaven, and hear many things because when you test the spirits you're actually putting yourself into a spiritual world where you test the spirits with spirits vs spirits.
1 John 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Well when we test the spirits the spirits is suppose to tell us that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is God, and when you test the spirits the Holy Spirit allow you to hear the Spirit world so you can test the spirits to find out if it is of God, or not.
Because there is many deceiver, and false prophet in this world, and Antichrist so this is why God allow us to hear the spirits so we can make sure we have the right spirits that is from God, and not an Antichrist.
We have that legal right to know what going on, and it's a gift from God, and he has giving us this gift to talk to spirits to make sure we're not deceive, and anybody can do it all, and it's written it says believe not every spirit, but try the spirits.
If it is written to say try it mean it want everybody to do it not just a special, or gifted person, and I received it because I obey the scripture, and try the spirits, and this is how I got it.
It took about 3 days I kept trying the spirits over, and over cause they kept telling me it's from Jesus Christ so I kept testing, and testing. At first the spirits left, and flee, and I told them that the spirits flee, and this cult I was in told me it's from God, and I got the spirits again, and I tested it again it flee, and they kept saying I assure you it is from God, and they told me do not test the spirits, but I refuse to listen to them, and kept testing anyway.
On the third day I try the spirits again, and when I read the first verse I heard a loud thunder sound, or Earthquake or gunshot sound it scared me, and it made me jump off the floor, and what happen was when I was trying the spirits the Holy Spirit enabled me to hear the spirits world, and when the Holy Spirit enabled me to hear the spirits world it made a loud gunshot sound then it mean I just gain an ability to hear the spirits world, and then I can hear the spirits and try the spirits to test them by making them confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God.
The True one will confess 1,000 time it has to confess, or it is an Antichrist, and the false one cannot confess they will flee, or will not answer, and sometime they can confess, and lie, but it will say it a few time, but after that it cannot say it anymore, and that why you have to keep testing, and keep making them confess, and it's the Holy Spirit job to testify, and it will testify 1,000 times, and more.
Because there is many deceiver, and false prophet in this world, and Antichrist so this is why God allow us to hear the spirits so we can make sure we have the right spirits that is from God, and not an Antichrist.
We have that legal right to know what going on, and it's a gift from God, and he has giving us this gift to talk to spirits to make sure we're not deceive, and anybody can do it all, and it's written it says believe not every spirit, but try the spirits.
If it is written to say try it mean it want everybody to do it not just a special, or gifted person, and I received it because I obey the scripture, and try the spirits, and this is how I got it.
It took about 3 days I kept trying the spirits over, and over cause they kept telling me it's from Jesus Christ so I kept testing, and testing. At first the spirits left, and flee, and I told them that the spirits flee, and this cult I was in told me it's from God, and I got the spirits again, and I tested it again it flee, and they kept saying I assure you it is from God, and they told me do not test the spirits, but I refuse to listen to them, and kept testing anyway.
On the third day I try the spirits again, and when I read the first verse I heard a loud thunder sound, or Earthquake or gunshot sound it scared me, and it made me jump off the floor, and what happen was when I was trying the spirits the Holy Spirit enabled me to hear the spirits world, and when the Holy Spirit enabled me to hear the spirits world it made a loud gunshot sound then it mean I just gain an ability to hear the spirits world, and then I can hear the spirits and try the spirits to test them by making them confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God.
The True one will confess 1,000 time it has to confess, or it is an Antichrist, and the false one cannot confess they will flee, or will not answer, and sometime they can confess, and lie, but it will say it a few time, but after that it cannot say it anymore, and that why you have to keep testing, and keep making them confess, and it's the Holy Spirit job to testify, and it will testify 1,000 times, and more.
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Meh, I get mixed responses from Christians, some are fun to debate doctrine with, and others its just best to keep it simple. I have never had a Christian reject scripture or sound discussion of scripture. You have to be aware of the degree of their walk, some are seasoned and some are infants spiritually speaking. You have to engage at their level in such a way that it brings growth. Everytime I have heard a make the claim that Christians today reject knowledge it has been for one of two reasons, #1 either they jump on babes with heavy theology and an attitude of superiority or #2 they were completely wrong in what they were saying.
Engage people properly and they will responded well. Engage them wrongly and they will shut you out. Why wouldn't they. In short if Christians are shutting you out it's your fault.
Engage people properly and they will responded well. Engage them wrongly and they will shut you out. Why wouldn't they. In short if Christians are shutting you out it's your fault.
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Just like cults who think they believe in Christ but in fact profess false Christs, so too are they who after being admonished with numerous scriptures as to their erroneous claims about Christ, nevertheless continue to profess their false Christs.
Examples of false Christs: OSAS preachers; pretrib preachers; and more.
I am not saying that they who are new to the Word who believe in OSAS, or pretrib are false preachers per say. I too believed in these concepts, until I saw through numerous scriptures in the Word that they and other such false Christs contradicted what was in the bible/Word.
When I and others engage these individuals with the Word contradicting their false Christs and they have no scriptural Word to support their false perspectives, they then usually retort by further twisting the Word creating an even more false Christ.
Examples of false Christs: OSAS preachers; pretrib preachers; and more.
I am not saying that they who are new to the Word who believe in OSAS, or pretrib are false preachers per say. I too believed in these concepts, until I saw through numerous scriptures in the Word that they and other such false Christs contradicted what was in the bible/Word.
When I and others engage these individuals with the Word contradicting their false Christs and they have no scriptural Word to support their false perspectives, they then usually retort by further twisting the Word creating an even more false Christ.
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To which cult you belong? I fear it was not the Holy Spirit who gave you this gift. We know that even demons know that Jesus is the son of God. When we got the gift of discern the spirits we can distinguish between the Holy Spirit and false Spirits. Nowhere it is said in the scripture that we will see the heaven ore communicate with angels ore spirits while we are here on earth, means before our ressuraction.
There is two type of christian the one that test the spirits using spirits vs spirits, or there is the kind that test the spirits using the word the Bible.
I've already debate about this with many Christians, and truly I've not met one that are like me not yet, but there is some like me out there, but I've not found them, and I've met two like me, but they was lacking faith, and did not trust the Lord, and they thought it was a demon.
You see we cannot pleased God without faith you must trust the Lord, and you cannot lend to your own understanding. If you can't trust the Lord, and then how can you please the Lord without having faith?
I've got two alien, and they pass the test I almost lost faith, and I almost thought it was a demon, and I almost lost my faith in God, but I didn't I stayed strong, and trusted in the Lord.
Y'all see we do not know everything, and if we become arrogant, or proud then how can we pleased God, and if we want to be perfect we need to walk in humbleness, and have long suffering, and long suffering is key it took me a few years to master it, and there was a few time I wanted to go against God, but I humble, and use long suffering, and didn't question God, and this is very important because it can help you learn how to listen to God, and how to obey him better.
I've already debate about this with many Christians, and truly I've not met one that are like me not yet, but there is some like me out there, but I've not found them, and I've met two like me, but they was lacking faith, and did not trust the Lord, and they thought it was a demon.
You see we cannot pleased God without faith you must trust the Lord, and you cannot lend to your own understanding. If you can't trust the Lord, and then how can you please the Lord without having faith?
I've got two alien, and they pass the test I almost lost faith, and I almost thought it was a demon, and I almost lost my faith in God, but I didn't I stayed strong, and trusted in the Lord.
Y'all see we do not know everything, and if we become arrogant, or proud then how can we pleased God, and if we want to be perfect we need to walk in humbleness, and have long suffering, and long suffering is key it took me a few years to master it, and there was a few time I wanted to go against God, but I humble, and use long suffering, and didn't question God, and this is very important because it can help you learn how to listen to God, and how to obey him better.