What it takes to be a pastor
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I just want to clarify that I did not intend to criticize pastors and I i appeared that way or if i in fact did I apologize. I know that there are some amazing pastors out there and not all of them are bad but I just wanted to give my thoughts and receive all of yours on what makes a good pastor
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I find it objectionable when the members of a local church pass judgment on a Pastor other than for moral or doctrinal reasons.
There are just no word to express my feelings for those who go from church to church, never join in the ministry of a local church, and than pass judgment on a Pastor because he does not fit their idea of what a Pastor is to be.
There are just no word to express my feelings for those who go from church to church, never join in the ministry of a local church, and than pass judgment on a Pastor because he does not fit their idea of what a Pastor is to be.
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I never intended to pass any judgment I merely gave my experiences and my thoughts and honestly I don't think I was judging, sure I expressed what seemed to be lacking in my experience in churches but I also mentioned how they were well organized and well written lessons did I not? And as for me going from church to church and not joining one believe me I have tried I have stayed in churches for months before but I just never found one that felt like home to me. There were amazing people but none of them were for me
Your opening post said, very clearly, every single pastor you've ever seen has fallen short.
Yes, that's sounds like a lot of complaining.
Blain, I think it would be really good for you if you'd get off your bum, get into a local church, get involved in some kind of ministry, and become responsible for something, anything, at a local church.
This would be good for you.
You'd soon find everyone is complaining about YOU, because YOU have fallen short...
and that is what makes you reexamine yourself, and grow.
I know I was a little hard on you, but sometimes you need a friend to lovingly kick you in the behind.
Take care.
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Yes, that's sounds like a lot of complaining.
Blain, I think it would be really good for you if you'd get off your bum, get into a local church, get involved in some kind of ministry, and become responsible for something, anything, at a local church.
This would be good for you.
You'd soon find everyone is complaining about YOU, because YOU have fallen short...
and that is what makes you reexamine yourself, and grow.
I know I was a little hard on you, but sometimes you need a friend to lovingly kick you in the behind.
Take care.
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No doubt being a pastor is a tough job if you are pastoring a bible believing church. You got to know the bible, you need to see to people's spiritual needs OUTSIDE of church as well, you need to deal with people's personal problems and be good at diffusing arguments. You also need good organizing skills if you're in a church that does street preaching or door to door evangelizing.
HOWEVER it is NOT a tough job if you are pastoring a fake contemporary church. You dont need to know the bible, all you need is funny stories, circus acts, contemporary music, cool stage with a bar-stool (no pulpit) and dimmed lights, maybe a couple of smoke machines and some hipster clothes, voilá. A pastor of a megachurch.
I wouldn't be up for the task! Too much responsibility and i dont meet the qualifications.
HOWEVER it is NOT a tough job if you are pastoring a fake contemporary church. You dont need to know the bible, all you need is funny stories, circus acts, contemporary music, cool stage with a bar-stool (no pulpit) and dimmed lights, maybe a couple of smoke machines and some hipster clothes, voilá. A pastor of a megachurch.
I wouldn't be up for the task! Too much responsibility and i dont meet the qualifications.
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Just something that came to mind. There is a difference between a pastor,
teacher and preacher.
I’ve met some fantastic teachers of the bible, they were great at expounding
the bible but terrible at pastoral care. Also people who are the other way around.
Whereas great preachers are again a different type of personality. They can be
brilliant at tent crusades and gospel meetings.
It would be rare to find a person who is great at all three. I think that’s why
its good that many churches have a main and assistance pastor. Or they have other
elders and deacons to assist.
teacher and preacher.
I’ve met some fantastic teachers of the bible, they were great at expounding
the bible but terrible at pastoral care. Also people who are the other way around.
Whereas great preachers are again a different type of personality. They can be
brilliant at tent crusades and gospel meetings.
It would be rare to find a person who is great at all three. I think that’s why
its good that many churches have a main and assistance pastor. Or they have other
elders and deacons to assist.
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Your opening post said, very clearly, every single pastor you've ever seen has fallen short.
Yes, that's sounds like a lot of complaining.
Blain, I think it would be really good for you if you'd get off your bum, get into a local church, get involved in some kind of ministry, and become responsible for something, anything, at a local church.
This would be good for you.
You'd soon find everyone is complaining about YOU, because YOU have fallen short...
and that is what makes you reexamine yourself, and grow.
I know I was a little hard on you, but sometimes you need a friend to lovingly kick you in the behind.
Take care.
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Yes, that's sounds like a lot of complaining.
Blain, I think it would be really good for you if you'd get off your bum, get into a local church, get involved in some kind of ministry, and become responsible for something, anything, at a local church.
This would be good for you.
You'd soon find everyone is complaining about YOU, because YOU have fallen short...
and that is what makes you reexamine yourself, and grow.
I know I was a little hard on you, but sometimes you need a friend to lovingly kick you in the behind.
Take care.
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And I also wanted to see what everyone else thought about it all too and so far few have actually done so it just seems like everyone misread the vibe about my op and just saw me as judging or complaining when really I just wanted to discuss the topic of pastors and what would make a good one
Just because I said there was something missing does not mean I was judging. If you were listening to a someone teaching but there were somethings that you thought were lacking or were incorrect and you spoke about it are then judging them? There is difference in speaking what you thought was missing and judging someone. For instance if a friend wants you to taste a cake they baked and you said it seemed to missing something are then judging the cake?
To judge someone is to look down upon them in a negative way and often times it is a purposeful slander, giving my opinion and then saying I am being judgmental is being unfair I never intended to insult or judge but with all do respect I cannot simply keep my opinons to myself because people misunderstand my post. Anyone who knows me knows I am not that kind of person I feel horrible just coming off as rude to people,
To judge someone is to look down upon them in a negative way and often times it is a purposeful slander, giving my opinion and then saying I am being judgmental is being unfair I never intended to insult or judge but with all do respect I cannot simply keep my opinons to myself because people misunderstand my post. Anyone who knows me knows I am not that kind of person I feel horrible just coming off as rude to people,
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