should Christians be racists?

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Davenport

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Obviously you fail to understand that tribe Levites were scattered though the other tribes of Israel. After the dispersion out of Israel they intermarried with the tribes. The priesthood had disappeared. Keep in mind this occurred over 2000 years. Their genetic marker became part of the Jewish DNA. Go back to the drawing board and try again.
Why do you insist on being so bone-headed and Antichristian? Your genetic claim only applies to one extended German family, contracting your claims. Your link refutes you. I quoted it for you. Lean to read. Learn to think. Get to know the teachings of Christ.
 

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You mean people claiming that Jews, who have and do reject Christ, are still chosen? Some take that so far as to say they will "go to heaven" no matter what. Uh...
Even the Old Testament says descendants of Jacob who are not faithful to God are not God's people (e.g. Hosea 1:9). "Christian Zionists" are Satanists who reject the explicit teaching of both the Old and New Testaments. But, those Satanists don't stop at claiming unbelieving descendants of Jacob are God's chosen people, they go on to lie and claim Anti-christian non-descendants of Jacob are descendants of Jacob and therefor are God's chosen people (e.g. see their genetic claims). IMO, supporters of Israel are outside the body of Christ, no matter how much they chant "Lord, Lord" to Jesus.
 

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How come the Jews of today are mostly fair skinned. Only those who lived in Africa for centuries are dark skinned. Explain this please!!
ROTFL
The Romans were Caucasian. Outside of Africa people were lighter skinned. There is only a few skin tones associated with it. DNA allows 32 different skin tones from the lightest to darkest. Marrying into a dark skinned group will have the descendents become dark skinned as the predominant skin tone gets spread into the group. So only the Jews who fled to Africa are dark skinned.
 
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Even the Old Testament says descendants of Jacob who are not faithful to God are not God's people (e.g. Hosea 1:9). "Christian Zionists" are Satanists who reject the explicit teaching of both the Old and New Testaments. But, those Satanists don't stop at claiming unbelieving descendants of Jacob are God's chosen people, they go on to lie and claim Anti-christian non-descendants of Jacob are descendants of Jacob and therefor are God's chosen people (e.g. see their genetic claims). IMO, supporters of Israel are outside the body of Christ, no matter how much they chant "Lord, Lord" to Jesus.
Are you Primitive Baptist?
 

fizzyjoe

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Refute this Dippidy Doo.

https://sites.google.com/site/levitedna/home

There are several other sites supporting this.

Why do you claim God's chosen people are the antichrist. That goes against what God stated. He would chastise them but never forsake them. Germany paid the price for killing 6 million of them. It was bombed into rubble. Read the Bible!! Your rant is very anti Christian!!!
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fizzyjoe

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I'm trying to imagine people saying "calibob power"
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fizzyjoe

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STOP SPREADING FALSEHOODS. I refuted your false claim about a levitical marker in post 159.



Jews are Antichrists. There's nothing miraculous about that, other than Satan's influence. Jews were kicked out of Israel by God, using the Romans. And, Jews were then destroyed. There are no more Jews of that kind today: There is no Jewish race, there is no Jewish religion.
Even so though any person that claims to be Jewish can be Christian if they accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior if not then they are still in error...
 

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Anyways I should give an answer on this topic, personally I believe racism to be "stupid" but, my personal feelings aside, God allowed many races to join him and even Jesus as "followers/servants" and we as the term is known now are Christians the intent being to spread God's word and lead people to Jesus Christ so it would stand to reason that we shouldn't see race as a "boundary" in doing so.
 

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Even so though any person that claims to be Jewish can be Christian if they accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior if not then they are still in error...
A Jew who accepts Christ has converted. He is no longer a Jew, but is a Christian. If he still claims to be Jewish, they're still not Christian, but are liars.

Everyone who identifies as a Messianic Jew in Israel knows that no Jew considers them to be a Jew. Those "Messianic Jews" know they fall outside of the definition of "Jew." So, why do they claim to be Messianic Jews? The Jews believe it's a con to entice Jews out of Judaism. "Messianic Jews" teach Jews that Christians are liars.
 

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Anyways I should give an answer on this topic, personally I believe racism to be "stupid" but, my personal feelings aside, God allowed many races to join him and even Jesus as "followers/servants" and we as the term is known now are Christians the intent being to spread God's word and lead people to Jesus Christ so it would stand to reason that we shouldn't see race as a "boundary" in doing so.
Why is racism stupid?

Yes, God allows all races to Join him. Also, all races were welcome to become his people in Israel, over 2000 years ago, contrary to the racist claims of "Christian Zionists".
 

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A Jew who accepts Christ has converted. He is no longer a Jew, but is a Christian. If he still claims to be Jewish, they're still not Christian, but are liars.

Everyone who identifies as a Messianic Jew in Israel knows that no Jew considers them to be a Jew. Those "Messianic Jews" know they fall outside of the definition of "Jew." So, why do they claim to be Messianic Jews? The Jews believe it's a con to entice Jews out of Judaism. "Messianic Jews" teach Jews that Christians are liars.
I think I'm getting your point now.
 

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Why is racism stupid?

Yes, God allows all races to Join him. Also, all races were welcome to become his people in Israel, over 2000 years ago, contrary to the racist claims of "Christian Zionists".
When I say "stupid" I mean things I personally find pretty "useless" to do, just the same as drinking alcohol,smoking or doing drugs, racism is separating one's self from people that are different in skin color in order to supposedly be "superior" which of course is "delusion" /"vanity" as in Ecclesiastes it tells of us being as beasts, "race" is no reason to feel "superior" or "inferior" to anyone I believe.
 

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You've got to quit blanket judging people based on these TV/Youtube preachers. I've worked with many black churches and they accepted my white skin and called me brother. Granted, I didn't work with many mega-churches though I did visit a couple. You have certain people that use the Christian label, but have very little else in common with Christians.

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I agree. Gary North wrote a book called "Crossed Fingers" documenting the secular takeover of Presbyterian USA in 1932. At that time the last Christian minister who held a pot of money, designated for missions, was defrocked to get access to the last pot of money the denomination held in their control. All of the top level protestant denominations are now secular. Only sub denominations still preach the gospel message. Presbyterian PCA and Lutheran Missouri Synod are a couple of them. Many independent churches as well. Thus most attending churches never hear the gospel message. This with almost half of the population attending church. So only a splinter hear the gospel message.
 

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I think I'm getting your point now.
What you ignore is there are multiple definitions of the word Jew. You are only looking at the religious definition. It also denotes racial background, that is why Christian Jews refer to themselves as Messianic Jews. Messianic refers to their belief and Jews refers to their racial background.
 

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What you ignore is there are multiple definitions of the word Jew. You are only looking at the religious definition. It also denotes racial background, that is why Christian Jews refer to themselves as Messianic Jews. Messianic refers to their belief and Jews refers to their racial background.
That is none of my concern.
 

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When I say "stupid" I mean things I personally find pretty "useless" to do, just the same as drinking alcohol,smoking or doing drugs, racism is separating one's self from people that are different in skin color in order to supposedly be "superior" which of course is "delusion" /"vanity" as in Ecclesiastes it tells of us being as beasts, "race" is no reason to feel "superior" or "inferior" to anyone I believe.
WWII was fought against 2 countries believing they had racial superiority over the other sub humans. Germany was the Aryan and Japan felt that Japanese were a superior race. Italy was trying to recreate the Roman Empire. 60 million died as a result.
 

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That is none of my concern.
It is part of the English language! Therefore is your concern with proper use of words. You don't get to redefine the words to suit yourself. Cults do that. Do you belong to a cult?
 

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What you ignore is there are multiple definitions of the word Jew. You are only looking at the religious definition. It also denotes racial background, that is why Christian Jews refer to themselves as Messianic Jews. Messianic refers to their belief and Jews refers to their racial background.
Your DNA claims about Jews has been explicitly refuted by your own source. To continue making them shows you to be a liar.
You have repeatedly said, "Jews have a Levitical genetic marker [showing them to be a race]." Your source says, "That [levitcal genetic marker] is relatively rare among Ashkenazim without a tradition of Levite descent and still more uncommon among Sephardim (both Levites and non-Levites) [to say nothing of this marker outside of any jewish population]."

You ignore the truth. You ignore God's word.

There's no such thing as Messianic Jew. It's an oxymoron. You ignore what the state of Israel says, too.

The kindest thing I can assume about a "Messianic Jew" is that they keep the word "Jew" as just a cultural, not a racial or religious, reference. But, the Jews believe them all to be liars, and I'm inclined to agree with the Jews.
 

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There is nothing in the scriptures you quoted that mentions racism... There are many other reasons why someone will not help another person.. Usually it is greed that prevents those who refuse to give to others..
Matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Read verse 43

For I was stranger. ............. you not took me in

Stranger can be different race, though same race can be stranger.
 

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Your DNA claims about Jews has been explicitly refuted by your own source. To continue making them shows you to be a liar.
You have repeatedly said, "Jews have a Levitical genetic marker [showing them to be a race]." Your source says, "That [levitcal genetic marker] is relatively rare among Ashkenazim without a tradition of Levite descent and still more uncommon among Sephardim (both Levites and non-Levites) [to say nothing of this marker outside of any jewish population]."

You ignore the truth. You ignore God's word.

There's no such thing as Messianic Jew. It's an oxymoron. You ignore what the state of Israel says, too.

The kindest thing I can assume about a "Messianic Jew" is that they keep the word "Jew" as just a cultural, not a racial or religious, reference. But, the Jews believe them all to be liars, and I'm inclined to agree with the Jews.
I have been in Israel and spoken with Gentile Christian groups going among the population bringing converts to Christianity. Oops These are Jews mostly. Oops They call themselves Messianic Jews to make note of the fact that Jesus was the Messiah. I don't care what the Israeli secular government says. I go by what I saw and heard while there.