Kavanaugh Debacle

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7seasrekeyed

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now all of sudden the overused term straw man is being tossed around like day old salad

from one lily pad to the next :rolleyes:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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With all due respect.

The only thing I have asked for is some more investigation. You, amongst others, have been chanting that Mrs Ford is a liar no matter what. Maybe she is, but I cannot know that before an investigation has concluded.

A prosecutor can’t conclude on those grounds. But you obviously can, and that’s disappointing.

get serious

I'm really getting the picture now. I am sure you even have a serious face on

Ford was caught lying during her questioning. I heard her myself and you go ahead and do what you do and I will do what I do

I have an excellent memory and pretty good judgement and she was caught lying with regards to her knowledge of the offer made by Grassley (sp might be wrong, lying about being afraid to fly, and lying about the 2nd front door she had installed on her CA house

you know she is lying but for some bizarre reason, you insist proper investigation has not been done


chanting? seems you are starting to use derogatory terms and try to destroy the evidence with terms like 'red herring'

you are coming real close to ad hominem attacks

you bring up conviction, but there has been no trial. there is nothing to have a trial with

perhaps you are not aware, but the FBI is said to have intimated that it would be Ford under investigation if things were to proceed farther

the woman is a lying manipulative dem, well coached and well rewarded
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Would you stand before the judge, presenting as solid evidence, a report made in, what has to be considered, to put it mildly, a hurry?

Furthermore, would you, knowing that the President himself is expecting a certain outcome of the investigation, and, as you would probably know, was ready to, quite literally, fire you if the report didn’t fit his agenda. As you probably also know, that’s happened before to an FBI employee...

Now, would you?

hearsay

your honor, does the prosecution have an actual question here?

judge: strike those remarks from the record. now Ms Jennie I am going to have to ask you to stick to the known facts which do not include badgering the witnesses. please refrain from personal remarks directed at the witnesses. they are not on trial

for that matter, no one is on trial. therefore, I must conclude your remarks are biased and you show prejudicial contempt for the entire proceedings

 
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7seasrekeyed

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Sen. Cory Booker Admitted to ‘Groping’ Female Friend at 15

where's the outrage? he wants to run for prez in 2020
he is unfit. the grope was not consensual. therefore he is a rapist and a disgusting evil person and unfit for anything but continual FBI investigations and accusations being flung at him whether or not they have even a scintilla of truth

BAN BOOKER!!!!!

here it is...in the words of the groper himself
 
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UnderGrace

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I think you could use that Criminal Law 101 yourself:).

Listen, if you can’t provide anything of legal value, that’s all good, but don’t pretend you can. Okay?
Irony at its best
 

MichaelOwen

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Well, a Supreme Court Justice should under no circumstances be sworn in because there was reasonable doubt about his actions.

I think it’s pretty clear that none of them are saints. However, that be not the case here. What really is the case is the fact that we have a Justice that is being accused of immoral and criminal behavior. How many Justices have been accused of that before him?
It's pretty clear that nobody is perfect, not even you.....but we have an advocate with the Father who makes us whole, and His name is Jesus. You may not like it, but Kavanaugh was appointed by our Lord to be in that position, so who are we to question God's authority. I serve a sovereign God who can do what and when he pleases, and he saw Kavanaugh was worthy of this position. Kavanaugh may not be perfect, but he's the perfect fit for the job.
 
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UnderGrace

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The burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on a citizen.

I say there is reason to investigate this further.

If you don’t agree, feel free, but your false accusations are no better than what you’re accusing others of.

Ponder that for a while.
I am not even American, but an astute American lawyer would know that some states allow private prosecutions:unsure:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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actually, I think Booker is gonna burst a blood vessel with his anger

that alone disqualifies him for anything but a bouncer

IMO, storming out of the senate is not worthy of someone who is a senator

these people want to rule by power and I would assume by direct lineage as well

it seems they would prefer a fiefdom where they inflict punishment on those who do not abide by their tactics...tactics, because their actions indicate a total lack of procedure and law
 
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7seasrekeyed

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God has put the evil in the US 'on hold' because He is merciful and longsuffering and not willing that any should perish

but the day will come when the tide is not held back and remember this day and sound judgement if you are alive to see it happen

I praise God that Hillary was denied her desire
 

tourist

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Trump is the most honest person there is. Never told a lie. Never cheated anyone. A really family man.

He just changes his mind a lot....depending on his audience.
Never cheated anyone except for his 3 wives.
 

tourist

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Well, a Supreme Court Justice should under no circumstances be sworn in because there was reasonable doubt about his actions.

I think it’s pretty clear that none of them are saints. However, that be not the case here. What really is the case is the fact that we have a Justice that is being accused of immoral and criminal behavior. How many Justices have been accused of that before him?
Clarence Thomas was accused of immoral behavior but that does not mean that he actually did anything wrong.
 
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UnderGrace

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Clarence Thomas was accused of immoral behavior but that does not mean that he actually did anything wrong.
Exactly, but apparently now even lawyers argue against due process and protective basic legal rights.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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and just when you point out the double standard, a blitzkrieg on Trump commences

well that's really puttin the axe to the roots

and demonstrates perfectly the fact that the minds of liberals have been stolen and replaced with little green men who constantly whisper alternate 'truths'

so how 'bout Booker, right?

yeah right. that will be the day a dem agrees that he is guilty of what he charges another with

you can't make this stuff up

and just who did release that letter from Ford anyway? I am less and less inclined to believe that Feinstein is as innocent as she would like to suggest

and as for presenting it in a manner that complies with established protocol, she kept it under wraps until the entire illegitimate soap opera was a well established 'fact' in newspapers written by and for, liberals who cannot act without their daily orders

cunning old lady
 
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Jennie-Mae

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get serious

I'm really getting the picture now. I am sure you even have a serious face on

Ford was caught lying during her questioning. I heard her myself and you go ahead and do what you do and I will do what I do

I have an excellent memory and pretty good judgement and she was caught lying with regards to her knowledge of the offer made by Grassley (sp might be wrong, lying about being afraid to fly, and lying about the 2nd front door she had installed on her CA house

you know she is lying but for some bizarre reason, you insist proper investigation has not been done


chanting? seems you are starting to use derogatory terms and try to destroy the evidence with terms like 'red herring'

you are coming real close to ad hominem attacks

you bring up conviction, but there has been no trial. there is nothing to have a trial with

perhaps you are not aware, but the FBI is said to have intimated that it would be Ford under investigation if things were to proceed farther

the woman is a lying manipulative dem, well coached and well rewarded
I don’t think anybody here is in a position to be talking about ad hominem attacks or derogatory terms. That includes you as well.

In case you didn’t notice, I have said that both would have been investigated. If she’s the one lying, she’s the one going down.

Why are you turning a blind eye to what I’m saying, and then be debating what your blind eye has seen? Sounds like a big old straw man to me😄.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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hearsay

your honor, does the prosecution have an actual question here?

judge: strike those remarks from the record. now Ms Jennie I am going to have to ask you to stick to the known facts which do not include badgering the witnesses. please refrain from personal remarks directed at the witnesses. they are not on trial

for that matter, no one is on trial. therefore, I must conclude your remarks are biased and you show prejudicial contempt for the entire proceedings

Well, I’ll credit you for your creativity😀, but like you said, nobody’s on trial, we’re just a bunch of folks bringing our biases to town😄.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Exactly, but apparently now even lawyers argue against due process and protective basic legal rights.
Well, but due process and basic legal rights applies to both Mr Kavanaugh and Mrs Ford.

You have failed to give her those rights solely on the grounds of sympathizing with Mr Kavanaugh. That’s not due process in my book.

Now, let me tell you something, I prefer Mr Kavanaugh over some liberal, left leaning, soft on crime, pro choice candidate that might could have been appointed after the midterm.

This case, however, is not about who is the preferred judge, it’s about whether our processes are sound.

This case has shown that the country is divided along the party lines, and for political reasons, both parties are ready to commit all kinds of forgery to achieve their goals.
 
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UnderGrace

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Well, but due process and basic legal rights applies to both Mr Kavanaugh and Mrs Ford.

You have failed to give her those rights solely on the grounds of sympathizing with Mr Kavanaugh. That’s not due process in my book.

Now, let me tell you something, I prefer Mr Kavanaugh over some liberal, left leaning, soft on crime, pro choice candidate that might could have been appointed after the midterm.

This case, however, is not about who is the preferred judge, it’s about whether our processes are sound.

This case has shown that the country is divided along the party lines, and for political reasons, both parties are ready to commit all kinds of forgery to achieve their goals.

Forgery ....lol

All kinds even....wow

Interesting bar exam they must have where ever you live.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Forgery ....lol

All kinds even....wow

Interesting bar exam they must have where ever you live.
That’s a political question that wouldn’t be part of a bar exam😊.
 
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UnderGrace

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Well, but due process and basic legal rights applies to both Mr Kavanaugh and Mrs Ford.

You have failed to give her those rights solely on the grounds of sympathizing with Mr Kavanaugh. That’s not due process in my book.

Now, let me tell you something, I prefer Mr Kavanaugh over some liberal, left leaning, soft on crime, pro choice candidate that might could have been appointed after the midterm.

This case, however, is not about who is the preferred judge, it’s about whether our processes are sound.

This case has shown that the country is divided along the party lines, and for political reasons, both parties are ready to commit all kinds of forgery to achieve their goals.

Umm....btw .... she is accusing him

It is his rights that need to be enacted not hers.