Hi I need a serious, and advance Discussion thread with a real challenge.

[preacher4truth]

Romans 8 King James Version (KJV)
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Just like I preached in the beginning there is 52% pharisees in the United State, and probably possibly higher percentage on Christian chat room because it probaly attract pharisees more than the one that is not a pharisees.

Everyone knows there are 57% Pharisees in the US, not 52%.

As innocent as I am, and y'all are my wittness even the innocent get persecuted, and I am a victims that is being taught from above, and these pharisees are jealous, and proud, and doesn't like my vision, and my understanding, and they don't want to help me they just want to tear me down.

You're not innocent, nor are you a victim other than a victim of yourself. In fact, you are, like all others, not good, evil, and have a deceitful heart as Scriptures attest. The fact that what you teach shows you to be in much error attests to the fact you are most probably unconverted.

It's written

Philippians 3:2
Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh.

...and you continue to pull Scripture out of context, and every Scripture you quote is as if it were written to defend YOU. It's all about YOU.

I came openly with an open book, and wanting to get to know Christ even more, and want to have fellowship, and now look at y'all that are wanting to isolate me.

Pharisees mean one word isolation.

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You've isolated yourself and you've not come here to learn, you came here to seek persecution to prove you yourself, and by yourself only, that YOU are right, when actually you are thoroughly deceived.

The fact that you abuse and misuse Scripture, and that it is all written to defend you id quite troubling. Please, seek help, and actually listen, there are good Christian folks here who can help you understand the Scriptures.

 

[dcontroversal]

You'd be a hypocrite if you say we must listen to man, and not God.

God is the one that teach us, and you have no idea what God is telling me, and I am testing always, and using the scriptures always.

What most are wanting is me to become a rebellion, and stop trusting in God.

Just as I preached from the beginning, and did Christ say you will received a greater condemnation for trying to shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people face?

Matthew 23:13
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.


His first condemnation, in 23:13, related to the fact that they did all they could to shut out others. False religion and pretense are always the worst enemies of the truth and are far more dangerous than immorality or indifference. As the religious leaders of the Jews, they were held guilty before God of blocking the way for others seeking to enter into the kingdom of God.

He described the scribes and Pharisees as poisonous snakes, destined for terrible judgment which would be theirs in hell, specifically Gehenna, the place of eternal punishment.

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Nothing you said has any bearing on what I posted.....nor am I anywhere near a Pharisee....so.....I tired to approach you in a humble manner with the "NO OFFENCE" statement, which gave you opportunity to respond in a decent manner and instead you start accusing.....so........that speaks VOLUMES dude.

 

[Iozion]

Everyone knows there are 57% Pharisees in the US, not 52%.



You're not innocent, nor are you a victim other than a victim of yourself. In fact, you are, like all others, not good, evil, and have a deceitful heart as Scriptures attest. The fact that what you teach shows you to be in much error attests to the fact you are most probably unconverted.



...and you continue to pull Scripture out of context, and every Scripture you quote is as if it were written to defend YOU. It's all about YOU.



You've isolated yourself and you've not come here to learn, you came here to seek persecution to prove you yourself, and by yourself only, that YOU are right, when actually you are thoroughly deceived.

The fact that you abuse and misuse Scripture, and that it is all written to defend you id quite troubling. Please, seek help, and actually listen, there are good Christian folks here who can help you understand the Scriptures.

What about this? Look at yourselves you are proud, and you think you know everything, and now you want to tear me down, and when the scriptures says it is God that teach us.

1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

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[dcontroversal]

Everyone knows there are 57% Pharisees in the US, not 52%.



You're not innocent, nor are you a victim other than a victim of yourself. In fact, you are, like all others, not good, evil, and have a deceitful heart as Scriptures attest. The fact that what you teach shows you to be in much error attests to the fact you are most probably unconverted.



...and you continue to pull Scripture out of context, and every Scripture you quote is as if it were written to defend YOU. It's all about YOU.



You've isolated yourself and you've not come here to learn, you came here to seek persecution to prove you yourself, and by yourself only, that YOU are right, when actually you are thoroughly deceived.

The fact that you abuse and misuse Scripture, and that it is all written to defend you id quite troubling. Please, seek help, and actually listen, there are good Christian folks here who can help you understand the Scriptures.

AMEN....and good luck with that.....a self proclaimed prophet or one who boasts of having a bag of spiritual gifts must go blind before they can actually see.........

 

[Iozion]

Alright just like I said pharisees mean one word isolation.

What do you profit isolating a potential believers you profit nothing right?

True believer of Christ drawn them in, and a true believer of Christ does not judge a fellow brother.

Pharisees they judge, and demand that they change, and demand that they reach up to their standards, or else they get an isolation.

I am not welcome here because y'all are a pharisees, and have no room for God.

Admit it y'all are jealous, and y'all just want me to go get some medication, or something this is jealousy, and y'all don't like the vision I am having, and being taught by God.

Now y'all want me to reject this alien, and want me to disobey God, and want me to become a rebel.

This is pharisees to the core, and this is who Christ condemned.

 

[dcontroversal]

Alright just like I said pharisees mean one word isolation.

What do you profit isolating a potential believers you profit nothing right?

True believer of Christ drawn them in, and a true believer of Christ does not judge a fellow brother.

Pharisees they judge, and demand that they change, and demand that they reach up to their standards, or else they get an isolation.

I am not welcome here because y'all are a pharisees, and have no room for God.

Admit it y'all are jealous, and y'all just want me to go get some medication, or something this is jealousy, and y'all don't like the vision I am having, and being taught by God.

Now y'all want me to reject this alien, and want me to disobey God, and want me to become a rebel.

This is pharisees to the core, and this is who Christ condemned.

SEE, this is one of the most ignorant stands made by believers....WE are to JUDGE ALL THINGS by the WORD of GOD.........the bible speaks against JUDGING by our own opinion or views....BUT to JUDGE by the word of GOD is BIBLICAL......and they all quote, "judge not that ye be not judged" and then they FORGET the context of that statement.....

 

[preacher4truth]

Alright just like I said pharisees mean one word isolation.

What do you profit isolating a potential believers you profit nothing right?

True believer of Christ drawn them in, and a true believer of Christ does not judge a fellow brother.

Pharisees they judge, and demand that they change, and demand that they reach up to their standards, or else they get an isolation.

I am not welcome here because y'all are a pharisees, and have no room for God.

Admit it y'all are jealous, and y'all just want me to go get some medication, or something this is jealousy, and y'all don't like the vision I am having, and being taught by God.

Now y'all want me to reject this alien, and want me to disobey God, and want me to become a rebel.

This is pharisees to the core, and this is who Christ condemned.

No one wants to be like you, and no one here is jealous of you. Instead we feel sorry for you.

We all, who are converted, want to be like Jesus, not like you, Romans 8:28-30. Scripture is all about God, it isn't about you. Please, realize you are in need of help, and then seek help.

 

[Iozion]

I have more to show, but y'all want me to silent, and y'all don't want to listen anymore.

Now y'all are telling me that I am wrong, wrong, and wrong, and y'all are having your ears shut, and going na na na na.

It's written despise not prophesying, and test all thing.

It's hard to share when people are telling you that you are wrong, and wanting you to turn away from God without giving you a chance to explain, and how is that going to help me, and check this verse out.

Notice it says godliness with contentment is great gain? I wrote down a definition for you, and I am the one with the vision, and look at how y'all are treating me.

1 Timothy 6:3-10 King James Version (KJV)
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.


con·tent·ment
/kənˈtentmənt/
noun

1. a state of happiness and satisfaction.
   
   

 

[preacher4truth]

What do you profit isolating a potential believers you profit nothing right?

Perhaps you are a potential believer, we all hope for your conversion.

True believer of Christ drawn them in, and a true believer of Christ does not judge a fellow brother. Pharisees they judge, and demand that they change, and demand that they reach up to their standards, or else they get an isolation.

Ironically you are condemning your own behavior while thinking you're doing it to others.

 

[Hevosmies]

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Ok, thats what I was afraid of. Another Charismatic/pentecostal/nondenominational Christian will tell us that we are religious or pharisees just because we do not accept this modern American movement...

Yup, another one. He said "yes" when you asked if disagreeing he has a gift qualifies to be a pharisee. Im so sick and tired of Christianity being taken over by these guys. But I guess its just another last days sign, the great apostasy is taking form in the word of faith ultra-charismatic fake signs and wonders movement. This is the fastest growing movement in Christianity for a reason, it appeals to the flesh.

Listen OP if you have some words of knowledge, spit em out no need to test the waters. You said you have been booted from christian fellowship in the past, that tells me that you've been wilding out with these words of knowledge. Today christianity is at an "everything goes" mode, where you can have two fake prophets get on the dimlight bar-stool stage and give contradicting prophecies and the people will praise both and accept both without no questions asked. And if you have been rejected before, in 2018, that tells me we are about to witness something wild.
Im excited. Maybe you really have the gift. Tell me something about me.

 

[Hevosmies]

You'd be a hypocrite if you say we must listen to man, and not God.

God is the one that teach us, and you have no idea what God is telling me, and I am testing always, and using the scriptures always.

This is hilarious to me. All these guys pull this.

Wait a minute, you are a man last time I checked, unless you are also claiming to be GOD? SO if you are a man, why should I listen to anything you got to say?

 

[Hevosmies]

Ive gone through the pages in this topic and have not seen ANY word of knowledge or prophecy yet? All i've seen is whining and moaning. Victim complex is real.

Could anyone be so kind as to direct me to the post where the OP delivers some words of knowledge, so that I may be enlightened?

 

[Iozion]

O.K. I need a break I will stop using this chat, but anyway what I am sharing is pure humility, and even if alien is real, or not real it doesn't matter because what matter is humility, and what I share is pure humility, and truth, and look at where this room has gone it has turn a bunch of pharisees nuts lmao.

Let that be a lesson for y'all what humility is about, and I need to stop using this room I need a break, and thank you for your time, and all, and I had a lot of fun chatting, and of course I am used to this.

Matthew 18:3
And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 18:4
Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

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[Iozion]

This is hilarious to me. All these guys pull this.

Wait a minute, you are a man last time I checked, unless you are also claiming to be GOD? SO if you are a man, why should I listen to anything you got to say?

It's blasphemous to listen to man so what I am showing y'all is that y'all do not need nobody to be your teacher.

1 John 2:27
As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

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[Hevosmies]

It's blasphemous to listen to man so what I am showing y'all is that y'all do not need nobody to be your teacher.

Okay . But do you not realize that you are teaching us, that nobody needs a teacher? Why should I listen to you? You are contradicting your own argument here.
I'll just listen to God then

I wonder why Paul said some were "...teachers" and James mentions it too?

 

[Hevosmies]

O.K. I need a break I will stop using this chat, but anyway what I am sharing is pure humility, and even if alien is real, or not real it doesn't matter because what matter is humility, and what I share is pure humility, and truth, and look at where this room has gone it has turn a bunch of pharisees nuts lmao.

Let that be a lesson for y'all what humility is about, and I need to stop using this room I need a break, and thank you for your time, and all, and I had a lot of fun chatting, and of course I am used to this.

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The irony is real, you are extremely prideful and boastful. Too blind and deceived to even notice it.

Enjoy the break, im not sure if calling us pharisee nuts is humble or not. Who really is nuts here?

 

[Hungry]

Who do I think Jesus is - God
Where did Jesus come from - Nazareth
What is God, and the Holy Spirit - God, and God
What is heaven - Not sure if I am suppose to make it up, or answer it what the Bible say lol
Where is the throne located - Heaven?

Really? You asked for a serious and advanced discussion. These are the fruits of your multiple gifts?

 

[Locoponydirtman]

You say you come to learn, yet when you are refuted, you call that person a pharasee, and you defined pharasee wrong from the beginning.
Then rather than answer questions asked of you by more than one person you never answer but continue to to ramble in defense of yourself.
To me you have done both things that are intolerable, yet I am still trying to get clarity from you as to what you are claiming.
Stop trying to defender your position. we don't even know what it is yet.
Stop using scripture out of context.
Now plainly state your claim.

 

[BaptistBibleBeliever]

You'd be a hypocrite if you say we must listen to man, and not God.

God is the one that teach us, and you have no idea what God is telling me, and I am testing always, and using the scriptures always.

What most are wanting is me to become a rebellion, and stop trusting in God.

Just as I preached from the beginning, and did Christ say you will received a greater condemnation for trying to shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people face?

Matthew 23:13
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.


His first condemnation, in 23:13, related to the fact that they did all they could to shut out others. False religion and pretense are always the worst enemies of the truth and are far more dangerous than immorality or indifference. As the religious leaders of the Jews, they were held guilty before God of blocking the way for others seeking to enter into the kingdom of God.

He described the scribes and Pharisees as poisonous snakes, destined for terrible judgment which would be theirs in hell, specifically Gehenna, the place of eternal punishment.

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Could you show us specifically where that is explained in the Watchtower Tract Society tracts, 'The Question?'

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Hi there I just want to say that I am gifted, and have spiritual gifts, and have gift of knowledge, and you can name it, but sadly these kind are rejected among Christians, and are kept isolated. I am looking for something I can have something on my level so I can have a Christian discussion freely without worry about offended the little one.

Pharisees are everywhere there is around 52% pharisees in United State alone, and the other half are usually not on Christians Chat, but the pharisees are higher rate in Christian Chat compare to the one that is not a pharisees. Pharisees are very religious, and this is why they use chat room cause they got nothing else to do while the one that is not a pharisees they are not religious, and are more open mind, and more understanding, and the one that is understanding have better than to do than to waste time on a Christian chat, and that is why it's so hard to find a real challenge where it doesn't have pharisees in the midst.

Spiritual gifts is all over the place you can discuss, but if they see one thing that they do not understand, or agree it's usually an instant boot, or block. You see we do not know everything, and nobody is right the Bible clearly tell us that we're taught by God, and when one is being taught by God it really freak a lot of Christians out, and they cannot handle it, and want to bail out, and tap out.

This is why it's important to use the whole bible as wholesome because if we're cherry picking then you won't be able to cover everything, and you'll just be half truth, and it'll turn the chat room into a cult where only the one that are brainwashed, or have low understanding of the Bible that is acceptable rather than those that have experienced with God, and have deeper understanding, and dept of the Lord words.

Y'all see God work in a mysterious way, and we cannot pleased the Lord without faith, and it's faith that pleased God, and it's faith that we're taught. We are taught by faith, and we are to walk by faith, and to trust in the Lord, and it is the Lord that guide us, and it's the Lord that set our path straight.

Many pharisees doesn't realize that it's God that teach us, and it's God that set our path straight, and many pharisees want to control people, and make them reach up to their standards, and many pharisees believe if they are not up to your standard you are not saved, and they believe you have to be on the same level as they are, or else you're not saved. Y'all see there is nobody in the world that are alike, and God did not make everybody to be exact the same, and yes we are to have like mind that is to put Jesus Christ first, and it's Jesus that matter, but just because things doesn't have Jesus Christ it doesn't mean it's not from Jesus Christ.

The Bible order us to listen more, and speak slowly, and the Bible give us plenty of tools how to get to know God, and there is a million of tools in the Bible, and the Bible is constantly telling us that we are to trust in the Lord, and we are to listen to God, and we are to put God first. Many pharisees doesn't realize that they want you to listen to them rather than God, and if they do not agree with you they will make sure you reach up to their standards. We are to teach people to trust God, and we are to teach people to put God first, and whatever God teach the people we are not to judge our brethren as long as it has Jesus Christ in there.

I do not know if this site has cult mentality, or if it is non denominational that use the whole bible as wholesome, and not judging a brother that is in Christ Jesus, and if it has a place where I can go to chat for serious discussion for advance Christian that is humble, and lowly that have patient with desire to lift a brother up, and bearing a brother with only desire to make a brother, and sister better then show me where I can go, and thank you.

cult mentality?

I'm not sure if you are coming on this strong and judgemental because you believe your experience is superior or because it appears English may not be your first language...or your grammer is really bad...not sure which and I say that withou meaning to offend, but trying to understand what it is you are actually getting at while you sling accusations right and left and probably offend many whether or not you mean to do so