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Good Morning Decon, a mighty warrior for Jesus our King and Chief wood chopper in God's Kingdom..,
I like the fact that VCO honored those who are in support of the biblical doctrine of, "The Eternal Security of the Believer." A strong Christian will boast in Jesus Christ who took our place and shed His blood on that old wooden cross that we would have "Everlasting Life" This post is dedicated to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
The Security of Believers; or Sheep Who Will Never Perish
By: C. H. Spurgeon
September 5, 1889
Eternal Security : [John 10:27-30]
Our Savior did not teach his disciples to keep certain things for the instructed few who were able to receive them; but he commanded us to make known all the great truths, since they are necessary for conviction, for conversion, for edification, for sanctification, and for the perfecting of the people of God. Even to his rough opponents he spoke boldly. Right in the faces of his adversaries he preached this great, but humbling truth, “You do not believe because you are not my sheep.” [John 10:26] Your unbelief is evidence that you were not chosen, that you have not been called by the Spirit of God, and that you are still lost in your sins.
All the spiritual life which every sheep in the flock now possess has been given to them by their Shepherd. Never was there another flock of which this could be said. No shepherd but this one can give life to his sheep; but he gave them all the true life that they have. No, stop: he not only gave them life, but he sustains that life by a constant gift.
Observe, it is not written, “I 'gave' them eternal life,” but “I 'give' them eternal life.” They are always living by virtue of the life which he is always giving. They are constantly receiving life from him, according to that assurance, “Because I live, you also will live.” What he always gives they must always receive, and therefore it cannot cease.
Here is everlasting life to be had by believing in Christ. It is not temporary, but eternal life”, why, then they accept it as such. They believe in Christ for that, and according to their faith it is done to them; and the Lord and Giver of life is glorified in giving to them this great and splendid gift, the gift of all gifts. “I give my sheep eternal life.”
Our loving Lord "will not cast away those to whom he is bound" by the bonds of marriage.
“Well, but suppose we sin.” He will chasten us, and restore us.
I like the fact that VCO honored those who are in support of the biblical doctrine of, "The Eternal Security of the Believer." A strong Christian will boast in Jesus Christ who took our place and shed His blood on that old wooden cross that we would have "Everlasting Life" This post is dedicated to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
The Security of Believers; or Sheep Who Will Never Perish
By: C. H. Spurgeon
September 5, 1889
Eternal Security : [John 10:27-30]
“My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
I and the Father are one."
I and the Father are one."
Our Savior did not teach his disciples to keep certain things for the instructed few who were able to receive them; but he commanded us to make known all the great truths, since they are necessary for conviction, for conversion, for edification, for sanctification, and for the perfecting of the people of God. Even to his rough opponents he spoke boldly. Right in the faces of his adversaries he preached this great, but humbling truth, “You do not believe because you are not my sheep.” [John 10:26] Your unbelief is evidence that you were not chosen, that you have not been called by the Spirit of God, and that you are still lost in your sins.
All the spiritual life which every sheep in the flock now possess has been given to them by their Shepherd. Never was there another flock of which this could be said. No shepherd but this one can give life to his sheep; but he gave them all the true life that they have. No, stop: he not only gave them life, but he sustains that life by a constant gift.
Observe, it is not written, “I 'gave' them eternal life,” but “I 'give' them eternal life.” They are always living by virtue of the life which he is always giving. They are constantly receiving life from him, according to that assurance, “Because I live, you also will live.” What he always gives they must always receive, and therefore it cannot cease.
Here is everlasting life to be had by believing in Christ. It is not temporary, but eternal life”, why, then they accept it as such. They believe in Christ for that, and according to their faith it is done to them; and the Lord and Giver of life is glorified in giving to them this great and splendid gift, the gift of all gifts. “I give my sheep eternal life.”
“‘Tis love that makes our willing feet
In swift obedience move.”
In swift obedience move.”
Our loving Lord "will not cast away those to whom he is bound" by the bonds of marriage.
“Well, but suppose we sin.” He will chasten us, and restore us.
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“Not saved by works” does not mean that believers produce no good works at all. Matthew 5:16 means just what it says and we are saved FOR good works and NOT BY good works (Ephesians 2:8-10). Faith in Christ is the root of salvation and good works are the fruit. Learn the difference.
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What does it mean to the we must do works in order to be saved group?
What does it mean to no works group?
It means works do not save, we had no works to save in the first instance so why should they save us after coming to faith, genuine repentance of unbelief in Jesus.
Matthew 5:16
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
Ephesians 2:10
10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
We do good works that were set before us, before we came to faith in order to glorify the father, not to glorify ourselves before the Father.
1 Peter 2:12
12 having your conduct honorable among the Gentiles, that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may, by your good works which they observe, glorify God in the day of visitation.
What does it mean to no works group?
It means works do not save, we had no works to save in the first instance so why should they save us after coming to faith, genuine repentance of unbelief in Jesus.
Matthew 5:16
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
Ephesians 2:10
10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
We do good works that were set before us, before we came to faith in order to glorify the father, not to glorify ourselves before the Father.
1 Peter 2:12
12 having your conduct honorable among the Gentiles, that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may, by your good works which they observe, glorify God in the day of visitation.
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Hi Mailmandan, I am completely dumbfounded why intelligent people cannot understand that Christians do and will produce many good works over their lifetime but it is not the good works that will save a human soul or that keep them saved, it is God who saves and keeps you saved. Whats the big deal people, your good works cannot save a flea, see?
God bles
God bles
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The problem is that intelligence gets in the way or should I say "So called intelligence?
Like the Pharisees had?
Unlike the following man
Luke 18:9-14
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Like the Pharisees had?
Unlike the following man
Luke 18:9-14
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
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Amen Brother Bill, you could not have made it more clear than what you are saying here.
Quote BillG: "in order to glorify the father, 'not to glorify ourselves' before the Father."
Isaiah45:22 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
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Quote BillG: "in order to glorify the father, 'not to glorify ourselves' before the Father."
Isaiah45:22 "Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
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Document your "new age spin" or else it is just your opinion. This is just a made up lie so you can continue your salvation by works false opinion, documentation please. Your notion that Christian are trying to put a wedge to stop God's work is a completely false made up statement, where is your proof of what you claim is happening?
1) There is no "wedge" like you say, Christians are doing good works around the world that God has prepared for us to do.
2) We are save by grace, "Not By Works" lest no one can boast.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8) For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
9) not by works, so that no one can boast.
10) For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
1) There is no "wedge" like you say, Christians are doing good works around the world that God has prepared for us to do.
2) We are save by grace, "Not By Works" lest no one can boast.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8) For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
9) not by works, so that no one can boast.
10) For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
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