Retire the Ten Commandments?
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Its Revelation.
Ephesians 1:15-17
15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Its Revelation.
Ephesians 1:15-17
15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Ephesians 1:4-6
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
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4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
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I agree with you. Here is Jesus on the subject of the law.
Matthew 5 NIV
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
This means we are all under the law. Breaking the law is condemnation for us. We thank God for Jesus who died on the cross for us. Thus we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus. He removes the penalty of sin from us.
Matthew 5 NIV
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
This means we are all under the law. Breaking the law is condemnation for us. We thank God for Jesus who died on the cross for us. Thus we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus. He removes the penalty of sin from us.
Love is meant to fill in the gaps that the old laws never explained. We are so worried that we miss something so we argue without ceasing. Love will always make more sense than the letter. Trying to paint a portrait with many words on distorts the simplicity of the picture. T he laws were training wheels which had to be removed from the bike. Jesus made all laws easy to understand. If you have not understood anything else, all laws are contained in the value of love. Love is what defines a law. And shows us what it means and how to interpret it. There never should have been any disagreement on this subject.
The great difficulty with interpreting scripture is that it is not all teaching the same lessons consistently. How are we to please our Father? The breaking of the OT laws meant a death sentence in most cases. Is that love? It is not the forgiveness that Jesus showed. You shalt not kill was not even honored in the old testament. Moses was told to kill men women and children constantly. Moses was effectively picking up the stone to cast it. Jesus told us not to cast stones since we are not sinless. These are opposite concepts friends. Love and death are certainly opposites. You can not discuss the validity of the law without realizing that someone back there is trying to kill us for not following it. Is our Father the murderer or is it the curse of Satan that allows such opposite ideas to exist within the cover of our Bibles. Love will certainly show us that forgiving our enemies is so much greater than killing them
. HOW DIFFICULT IS ALL OF THIS SUPPOSED TO BE. Is torment and death really a good teaching method. Love defines our responses to evil. Do not return it. Jesus has given us a simple method of living our lives, but we keep looking for some other answers. This site exists because people still can't figure out how to interpret their daddy. Jesus is non-retaliatory and that is the final word. If we find words to the contrary, they are flat out wrong. Take a side and stay with it. Forgiveness for sin is the answer, not dying because you could not follow it anyway. This is very simple stuff. Only the intellectuals are having problems with trying to make sense of it all. Jesus told us that love is the fulfilling of the law. Not following all of the rules with death sentences attached to them. Someone still believes that Jesus was trying to validate the old testament commands. How tangled our understanding becomes when we start trying to validate the old by vindicating the new. We have been set free from all of the confusion. No longer do we have to believe that He ever asked us to kill each other. He would never have done such a confusing thing. Some of you will continue to believe that it was god who asked us to kill for him, and you will seek to prove that he had some good reason for it. There was none. You don't teach children how to punish and later teach how to forgive. Is this getting clear to any of you. Gods concepts are easy but do require a stand. The lesser has been exposed and the simplicity of the truth remains. Love will please Daddy!
. HOW DIFFICULT IS ALL OF THIS SUPPOSED TO BE. Is torment and death really a good teaching method. Love defines our responses to evil. Do not return it. Jesus has given us a simple method of living our lives, but we keep looking for some other answers. This site exists because people still can't figure out how to interpret their daddy. Jesus is non-retaliatory and that is the final word. If we find words to the contrary, they are flat out wrong. Take a side and stay with it. Forgiveness for sin is the answer, not dying because you could not follow it anyway. This is very simple stuff. Only the intellectuals are having problems with trying to make sense of it all. Jesus told us that love is the fulfilling of the law. Not following all of the rules with death sentences attached to them. Someone still believes that Jesus was trying to validate the old testament commands. How tangled our understanding becomes when we start trying to validate the old by vindicating the new. We have been set free from all of the confusion. No longer do we have to believe that He ever asked us to kill each other. He would never have done such a confusing thing. Some of you will continue to believe that it was god who asked us to kill for him, and you will seek to prove that he had some good reason for it. There was none. You don't teach children how to punish and later teach how to forgive. Is this getting clear to any of you. Gods concepts are easy but do require a stand. The lesser has been exposed and the simplicity of the truth remains. Love will please Daddy!
If Jesus had wanted stoning for breaking commands, He would not have enforced it. Look at the woman who was caught in adultery. Jesus basically told them that only the sinless could cast stones. Who are they? They don't exist on this planet and never have. Scriptures sure do have a way with blinding and confusing people. Jesus ideas are simple. Love your enemies, not kill them. This is what forgiveness is all about. Eliminate any other teaching and this simple idea will be gloriously expressed.
Isn,t it amazing that Christians will not even touch subjects like this. We all want to know what is happening with the two standard system but refuse to acknowledge that it even exists. The atheists will confront these questions since they have no particular allegiance to the subject matter. Are there any others Christians here who will deal with the real meat of God. Jesus has saved me from stupidity.
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I think back to high school dances. Remember those? When dinosaurs roamed the earth and the tar pits was not a tourist attraction but a danger zone? 
All it took was one couple to get up and start to dance and then everyone else would start to dance. Till then the floor would stay empty.
Christians tend to be followers after all. I think all it would take is one person in a church as that one described. Stand up, walk toward the door. No scene, say nothing. Just stand and walk out.
Because if the congregation stays it tells that errant pastor they're right. It gives them a false sense of security that they can say that, anything can qualify as "that", and they'll suffer nothing. In this life.
Like TD Jakes church. Recently, his wife made news long after his fornicating daughter did when she made news pregnant out of wedlock.
His wife allowed Yoga practice into the women's gathering there. Rather than follow those who led these poses, what if women in each pew started to leave?
TD Jakes' wife shares photos of yoga session at The Potter's House
Think it would make a difference? Send a message?
But people are largely afraid of their pastor. Ever notice that? What a shame.
All it took was one couple to get up and start to dance and then everyone else would start to dance. Till then the floor would stay empty.
Christians tend to be followers after all. I think all it would take is one person in a church as that one described. Stand up, walk toward the door. No scene, say nothing. Just stand and walk out.
Because if the congregation stays it tells that errant pastor they're right. It gives them a false sense of security that they can say that, anything can qualify as "that", and they'll suffer nothing. In this life.
Like TD Jakes church. Recently, his wife made news long after his fornicating daughter did when she made news pregnant out of wedlock.
His wife allowed Yoga practice into the women's gathering there. Rather than follow those who led these poses, what if women in each pew started to leave?
TD Jakes' wife shares photos of yoga session at The Potter's House
Think it would make a difference? Send a message?
But people are largely afraid of their pastor. Ever notice that? What a shame.
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The moral law becomes our new nature, written on our hearts rather than on stones. Because Jesus, I don't want to commit adultry, or even look on a woman in lust. In many ways the new law is more strengent now; not only do we not covet what belongs to others but are joyful with them that they have it, and are content with what the Lord has given us.
The 10 commandments are less commandments and more descriptions of our new nature if indeed we love God. The moral values are not gonna away, but are the desire of our heart.
The 10 commandments are less commandments and more descriptions of our new nature if indeed we love God. The moral values are not gonna away, but are the desire of our heart.
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