What is the order of Melchizedek
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This is an interesting topic. The priesthood used to be levite, now its melchizedek.
But how does that jive with this scripture, saying the levites arent going no where?:
Jer 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
Jer 33:21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Also mentioned the levites in V18
Whats going on here?
Hebrews 7:12: (and the rest of the chapter really)
For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.
Anybody got a good way to reconcile these?
But how does that jive with this scripture, saying the levites arent going no where?:
Jer 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
Jer 33:21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Also mentioned the levites in V18
Whats going on here?
Hebrews 7:12: (and the rest of the chapter really)
For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.
Anybody got a good way to reconcile these?
The answer is found in the book of Ezekiel. Even though Israel will clearly be under the New Covenant, and each person will be a regenerated person, God will have an undefiled temple in Jerusalem, and the priests and Levites will be allowed to do their duties within that temple. At the same time, the finished work of Christ will be in effect, and we do not know exactly how God will reconcile the two.
EZEKIEL 45
18 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary:
19 And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court.
20 And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erreth, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house.
21 In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.
23 And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the goats daily for a sin offering.
24 And he shall prepare a meat offering of an ephah for a bullock, and an ephah for a ram, and an hin of oil for an ephah.
25 In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.
EZEKIEL 45
18 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary:
19 And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering, and put it upon the posts of the house, and upon the four corners of the settle of the altar, and upon the posts of the gate of the inner court.
20 And so thou shalt do the seventh day of the month for every one that erreth, and for him that is simple: so shall ye reconcile the house.
21 In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.
23 And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the goats daily for a sin offering.
24 And he shall prepare a meat offering of an ephah for a bullock, and an ephah for a ram, and an hin of oil for an ephah.
25 In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.
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Thanks bro, here is one possible explanation:
Hebrews 8:4 For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law;
So maybe, because Jesus is on earth during the millennium, thats why the levites are coming back? It says He wouldn't be a priest if He was on earth.
NOT SAYING ITS SO! Just throwing a theory out there.
Hebrews 8:4 For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law;
So maybe, because Jesus is on earth during the millennium, thats why the levites are coming back? It says He wouldn't be a priest if He was on earth.
NOT SAYING ITS SO! Just throwing a theory out there.
Israel flees to the mountains during the tribulation and accepts Jesus as their messiah when he returns in power. The veil is removed from their eyes and they are born of the Spirit and become children of the New Covenant just like the rest of us. The Levities among them become Priests and Kings according to the order of Melchizedek just like the rest of us and are able to minister according to the New Covenant, at an alter that they are unable to eat from, unto Jesus as he sits upon the throne of David, and literally fulfill that prophecy in Jer 33...
Maranatha!
Maranatha!
Consider these scriptures.
Romans 7:12 "The law is holy, the commandment is holy, just, and good."
2 Timothy 3 "Every scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproof, for..."
Yes the Messiah said, " The Father in Heaven is "Good"", and never claimed to be himself. Now if the scriptures point to the obedient heart of men as the example of true faith why would anyone want to be without the perfect, holy, and good instruction meant for correction and edification of the assembly as one new man? We are called to obedience which means to forsake the tradition of men most of us have grown up in,(Christmas, Easter, Halloween). This is just the tip of a gigantic iceberg that has choked out the assembly with lies. We are called to a better way. We are called to knowledge and understanding through Messiah who takes no pleasure in our disobedience nor does he glory in the destruction of the wicked. Remember the Sabbath day and don't sin.
Malkizadik who was a priest of the most high taught righteousness and truth. We're holding on to a shadow when the instruction and relationship with Messiah is open to those who believe and hear truth.
So yes God is Good, also He sent Messiah in order that we may understand the "Good Works" of the instruction sent before hand to do them and live in them.
Shalom in Messiah John Talmid
Romans 7:12 "The law is holy, the commandment is holy, just, and good."
2 Timothy 3 "Every scripture is inspired by God and useful for teaching, for reproof, for..."
Yes the Messiah said, " The Father in Heaven is "Good"", and never claimed to be himself. Now if the scriptures point to the obedient heart of men as the example of true faith why would anyone want to be without the perfect, holy, and good instruction meant for correction and edification of the assembly as one new man? We are called to obedience which means to forsake the tradition of men most of us have grown up in,(Christmas, Easter, Halloween). This is just the tip of a gigantic iceberg that has choked out the assembly with lies. We are called to a better way. We are called to knowledge and understanding through Messiah who takes no pleasure in our disobedience nor does he glory in the destruction of the wicked. Remember the Sabbath day and don't sin.
Malkizadik who was a priest of the most high taught righteousness and truth. We're holding on to a shadow when the instruction and relationship with Messiah is open to those who believe and hear truth.
So yes God is Good, also He sent Messiah in order that we may understand the "Good Works" of the instruction sent before hand to do them and live in them.
Shalom in Messiah John Talmid
Aside from God's Word being God which includes his commandments and laws, what does your response have to do with my posting?
Only God is good, quoting our Savior, Jesus chrsit, would you fault this too? Would not God being good include His Word?
Please do not be pedant with your responses, or augmentations to others since all that was said in one small phrase is sufficient.
Only God is good, quoting our Savior, Jesus chrsit, would you fault this too? Would not God being good include His Word?
Please do not be pedant with your responses, or augmentations to others since all that was said in one small phrase is sufficient.
Since you said that Melchizedek is the person of Jesus Christ I suggest you read the following I just found. https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/356-was-melchizedek-the-preincarnate-christ You should know I learned from the Scriptures that Melchizedek was not Jesus Christ well over 40 years ago. I have also learned that when one makes statements that you throughly do research to make sure your right about the statments you make. Just some friendly advice. 
IN GOD THE SON,
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IN GOD THE SON,
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The point I have tried to share is that which is good. The word that is written is good, holy, and even of the Spirit.
People think that the Holy Spirit is some sort of force or conscience gained after being born again. Truth is far greater than that. We aren't taught that the Holy Spirit is the word and the word made flesh, (Messiah) is the mediator between man and Elohim the Father in Heaven.
Again my point is to do the "good works" that is a reasonable sacrifice today we must know that the word sent to test mankind, "to see if we will obey or not" is the instruction first given for the assembly of Israel. You have heard of read, " you shall know a tree by its fruit". If you say you are saved or redeemed by faith, what work of Elohim do you do that proves it?
As for me and my house we serve Elohim with adoration through his way not man's folly.
I understand them very well thanks. However simply because we know Messiah is King of Kings and Master of Masters you have come to the conclusion that the Messiah is Malkizadik? This is not a great proof. I could also say Lincoln was a racist because he had slaves. I may even believe it if I didn't also know that Lincoln was a huge proponent of emancipation.
So that righteousness that comes through Messiah preached as your own. Does it begin and end at a declaration of belief? No the goal is for Messiah to come to maturity in every believer. We have it backwards, thinking we must grow in Messiah.
I recommend for you nothing however because I am not responsible for the way you go. I am responsible only for speaking truth..
Shalom John Talmid
People think that the Holy Spirit is some sort of force or conscience gained after being born again. Truth is far greater than that. We aren't taught that the Holy Spirit is the word and the word made flesh, (Messiah) is the mediator between man and Elohim the Father in Heaven.
Again my point is to do the "good works" that is a reasonable sacrifice today we must know that the word sent to test mankind, "to see if we will obey or not" is the instruction first given for the assembly of Israel. You have heard of read, " you shall know a tree by its fruit". If you say you are saved or redeemed by faith, what work of Elohim do you do that proves it?
As for me and my house we serve Elohim with adoration through his way not man's folly.
I understand them very well thanks. However simply because we know Messiah is King of Kings and Master of Masters you have come to the conclusion that the Messiah is Malkizadik? This is not a great proof. I could also say Lincoln was a racist because he had slaves. I may even believe it if I didn't also know that Lincoln was a huge proponent of emancipation.
So that righteousness that comes through Messiah preached as your own. Does it begin and end at a declaration of belief? No the goal is for Messiah to come to maturity in every believer. We have it backwards, thinking we must grow in Messiah.
I recommend for you nothing however because I am not responsible for the way you go. I am responsible only for speaking truth..
Shalom John Talmid
With no beginning and no end to Melchizedek, and to the Lord, I then speculate those of us who belong to this order may likewise have no beginning or end.????
There are these passages in the book of Job in which the sons of God present themselves before the Lord (Job 1:6 & 2:1), of whom later are described as all of Gods sons shouting for joy at the onset of creation (Job 38:7).
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
There are these passages in the book of Job in which the sons of God present themselves before the Lord (Job 1:6 & 2:1), of whom later are described as all of Gods sons shouting for joy at the onset of creation (Job 38:7).
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Well that couldn't be because it is written, "You are a chosen race, a royalpriesthood, a holy nation, a people of His own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.”
Also there are others who could qualify as a Malkizadik. Elijah could qualify.
Interesting point about the Malkizadik Priesthood is the phrase connected to the idea of no known origin or end. This alludes to another scripture. Who do we all now know that is the beginning and the end?
Just a thought
Also there are others who could qualify as a Malkizadik. Elijah could qualify.
Interesting point about the Malkizadik Priesthood is the phrase connected to the idea of no known origin or end. This alludes to another scripture. Who do we all now know that is the beginning and the end?
Just a thought
Here's a thought...............it's gonna sound like it came out of left field and many of you may think I'm completely nuts! But, I don't care. I shall say it anyways. LOL!
One of the 4 living creatures at the Throne of God in Heaven - the one with the face of the ox/calf - he is Melchizedek. He stands in the place of Priest before God and has neither father or mother and he worships the Most High God.
How did I come to this conclusion? Well, because the 4 living creatures are to display the Father's Will to all of heaven which is:
1st Living Creature - Lion (King) makes known to all of heaven that the Father is the Highest Authority all are to submit in heaven and earth.
2nd Living Creature - Ox/Calf (Priest) makes known to all of heaven that the Father will meet all of the needs of heaven and earth.
3rd Living Creature - Man (Savior) makes known to all of heaven that the Father will save all of heaven and earth.
4th Living Creature - Flying Eagle (Deliverer) makes known to all of heaven and earth that the Father will deliver heaven and earth from the sin of rebellion.
Jesus came to the earth and displayed each living creature to us by which He was showing us the Father and the Father's Will for all upon the Earth.
Jesus is the King and High Priest for us after the order of Melchizedek.
One of the 4 living creatures at the Throne of God in Heaven - the one with the face of the ox/calf - he is Melchizedek. He stands in the place of Priest before God and has neither father or mother and he worships the Most High God.
How did I come to this conclusion? Well, because the 4 living creatures are to display the Father's Will to all of heaven which is:
1st Living Creature - Lion (King) makes known to all of heaven that the Father is the Highest Authority all are to submit in heaven and earth.
2nd Living Creature - Ox/Calf (Priest) makes known to all of heaven that the Father will meet all of the needs of heaven and earth.
3rd Living Creature - Man (Savior) makes known to all of heaven that the Father will save all of heaven and earth.
4th Living Creature - Flying Eagle (Deliverer) makes known to all of heaven and earth that the Father will deliver heaven and earth from the sin of rebellion.
Jesus came to the earth and displayed each living creature to us by which He was showing us the Father and the Father's Will for all upon the Earth.
Jesus is the King and High Priest for us after the order of Melchizedek.
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But the thought was not completed with "after the order of Melchizedek".
Melchizedek and Christ are unique (actually one and the same), even though all believers are indeed a Royal Priesthood. Christ is our High Priest in the Heavenly Sanctuary.
HEBREWS 7
22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
This oath taken by God the Father was exclusively about Christ, who is both High Priest and perfect Sacrifice. There was no mention of believers as a Royal Priesthood.
Melchizedek and Christ are unique (actually one and the same), even though all believers are indeed a Royal Priesthood. Christ is our High Priest in the Heavenly Sanctuary.
HEBREWS 7
22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.
23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:
24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.
This oath taken by God the Father was exclusively about Christ, who is both High Priest and perfect Sacrifice. There was no mention of believers as a Royal Priesthood.
For background about Melchizedek and how Christians will join Jesus as priests according to the order of Melchizedek, go to https://standinfaith.org/melchizedek-priesthood-of-jesus-and-israel/
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The reasonable sacrifice today is we offer it in view of God mercy. Not in view of the idea we perform the wonderful works as the fruit that comes from the tree of life. It begins with the incorruptible seed of Christ, the root of Jesse ( Not seen)
God is not served by human hands in that way. He can use a unbeliever to plant the incorruptible seed of wonderful works just as easily as one who does have the seed abiding in them.
Christ did not say the person did not perform the wonderful works but it would seem, not in view of His mercy, but in view of the works. Christ called him a worker of iniquity. Not looking to the mercy by which he could offer... which without he could not
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Mathew 7:22-23
Melchisedec as eternal God the Son of God not seen was represented outwardly temporally by Jesus the Son of man seen . The time of reformation had come
The new order of priesthood was no longer after the tribe of Levi But after all the tribes of the world as a kingdom of priest .Male and female Jew and gentile.
It was transferred over by John the last priest after the order of levi. John batpised Jesus from the tribe Judas as a introduction of his ministry. After Jesus was baptized he also became an officiator of the order of Melchisedec.
It is what the discussion was about in John 3:25. The ceremonial baptism of those who desire to bring the gospel into the world as a Kingdom of priest as ambassadors sent from a foreign land (not of here) .
John in effect said; A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. Not from here after the flesh of men the temporal.
Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.John3:25
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
The high priest of our calling is not seen, we walk by faith.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
God is not served by human hands in that way. He can use a unbeliever to plant the incorruptible seed of wonderful works just as easily as one who does have the seed abiding in them.
Christ did not say the person did not perform the wonderful works but it would seem, not in view of His mercy, but in view of the works. Christ called him a worker of iniquity. Not looking to the mercy by which he could offer... which without he could not
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Mathew 7:22-23
Melchisedec as eternal God the Son of God not seen was represented outwardly temporally by Jesus the Son of man seen . The time of reformation had come
The new order of priesthood was no longer after the tribe of Levi But after all the tribes of the world as a kingdom of priest .Male and female Jew and gentile.
It was transferred over by John the last priest after the order of levi. John batpised Jesus from the tribe Judas as a introduction of his ministry. After Jesus was baptized he also became an officiator of the order of Melchisedec.
It is what the discussion was about in John 3:25. The ceremonial baptism of those who desire to bring the gospel into the world as a Kingdom of priest as ambassadors sent from a foreign land (not of here) .
John in effect said; A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. Not from here after the flesh of men the temporal.
Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.John3:25
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
The high priest of our calling is not seen, we walk by faith.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
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