Do you hear God speak to you?

[deardean2]

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said,It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The underlined word in this verse (word) does not come from logos which means "written word" but from rhema which means "spoken word". Jesus says "it is written" (logos) that man lives by the freshly spoken words of God (rhema). So many people who call themselves Christians today think that they are supposed to live life by reading their Bibles and doing what it says. But Jesus is saying that men are to hear God as He speaks in their ear and do what He says. The only way a person can do this is by becoming a disciple --- one who sacrifices, listens and obeys.

 

[Torchwave]

I think this is the reason Christians are not making great impact on the world today as opposed to the time of the Disciples after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am seeking God to know Him personally as I cannot imagine groping through life blindly without His direction.
That said, do you hear God speak to you, Deardean2?

 

[John146]

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said,It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The underlined word in this verse (word) does not come from logos which means "written word" but from rhema which means "spoken word". Jesus says "it is written" (logos) that man lives by the freshly spoken words of God (rhema). So many people who call themselves Christians today think that they are supposed to live life by reading their Bibles and doing what it says. But Jesus is saying that men are to hear God as He speaks in their ear and do what He says. The only way a person can do this is by becoming a disciple --- one who sacrifices, listens and obeys.

Scripture is not enough huh? Does God ever "speak" to you things that are contrary to His word, or in accordance to His word?

 

[Hevosmies]

Scripture is not enough huh?

This is a common meme put out by cessationists.

I have heard a preacher say "Pray, thats you talking to God, and read your bible, thats God talking to you".. Well thats just not true. The epistle to the Corinthians is ..... to the corinthians. Not written to anyone in 2018. All scripture is PROFITABLE for learning correction etc etc.
But all scripture is NOT profitable for telling you: Who to marry, where to live, if you should even marry, what job to take, what ministry you are called to do, whats God's purpose for you in this life, what situations to avoid, what situations to get into. Basically: Daily things that people face in the real world.

Have I heard God speak audibly to me and say "Hey, do this and that". NO. But I still dont deny it can happen, it happened in the Bible. Im just not that spiritual maybe thats my problem.
But just because it didnt happen to me doesn't mean its impossible. Cant put God in a box.

I challenge any cessationist to provide a text from the scriptures alone that says God stopped talking. Its not there.
And please dont give me that ridiiclous "Oh if God spoke to you, lets just add it to revelation, a new book". That is an embarrasing argument. There are MANY prophets(and prophetesses) mentioned in the Bible and guess what, their prophecies are not WRITTEN in the bible. So moot point there, stop using that argument guys. I beg you.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

This is a common meme put out by cessationists.

I have heard a preacher say "Pray, thats you talking to God, and read your bible, thats God talking to you".. Well thats just not true. The epistle to the Corinthians is ..... to the corinthians. Not written to anyone in 2018. All scripture is PROFITABLE for learning correction etc etc.
But all scripture is NOT profitable for telling you: Who to marry, where to live, if you should even marry, what job to take, what ministry you are called to do, whats God's purpose for you in this life, what situations to avoid, what situations to get into. Basically: Daily things that people face in the real world.

Have I heard God speak audibly to me and say "Hey, do this and that". NO. But I still dont deny it can happen, it happened in the Bible. Im just not that spiritual maybe thats my problem.
But just because it didnt happen to me doesn't mean its impossible. Cant put God in a box.

I challenge any cessationist to provide a text from the scriptures alone that says God stopped talking. Its not there.
And please dont give me that ridiiclous "Oh if God spoke to you, lets just add it to revelation, a new book". That is an embarrasing argument. There are MANY prophets(and prophetesses) mentioned in the Bible and guess what, their prophecies are not WRITTEN in the bible. So moot point there, stop using that argument guys. I beg you.

Chuck - Hevosmies how quickly can you hijack that thread?
Hevosmies - Chuck I can hijack that thread in four posts.
Folks we have a winner!

 

[luigi]

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said,It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The underlined word in this verse (word) does not come from logos which means "written word" but from rhema which means "spoken word". Jesus says "it is written" (logos) that man lives by the freshly spoken words of God (rhema). So many people who call themselves Christians today think that they are supposed to live life by reading their Bibles and doing what it says. But Jesus is saying that men are to hear God as He speaks in their ear and do what He says. The only way a person can do this is by becoming a disciple --- one who sacrifices, listens and obeys.

While I agree with you, and I hear the Word of the Lord daily with instruction on which way to go; I also seek Him by reading His Word.
I believe this is very important, as there are many here who think they believe in God and His Word, but who constantly deny scriptures when advocating their dogmatic perspectives.
If they were more learned in the Word, like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, they would then more readily recognize the spoken Word from God, rather than the deceptive words from our adversary the devil (Revelation 12:9).

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[Hevosmies]

Chuck - Hevosmies how quickly can you hijack that thread?
Hevosmies - Chuck I can hijack that thread in four posts.
Folks we have a winner!

thats funny. In the midst of that, I did answer the OP question too Pay attention next time.

 

[John146]

This is a common meme put out by cessationists.

I have heard a preacher say "Pray, thats you talking to God, and read your bible, thats God talking to you".. Well thats just not true. The epistle to the Corinthians is ..... to the corinthians. Not written to anyone in 2018. All scripture is PROFITABLE for learning correction etc etc.
But all scripture is NOT profitable for telling you: Who to marry, where to live, if you should even marry, what job to take, what ministry you are called to do, whats God's purpose for you in this life, what situations to avoid, what situations to get into. Basically: Daily things that people face in the real world.

Have I heard God speak audibly to me and say "Hey, do this and that". NO. But I still dont deny it can happen, it happened in the Bible. Im just not that spiritual maybe thats my problem.
But just because it didnt happen to me doesn't mean its impossible. Cant put God in a box.

I challenge any cessationist to provide a text from the scriptures alone that says God stopped talking. Its not there.
And please dont give me that ridiiclous "Oh if God spoke to you, lets just add it to revelation, a new book". That is an embarrasing argument. There are MANY prophets(and prophetesses) mentioned in the Bible and guess what, their prophecies are not WRITTEN in the bible. So moot point there, stop using that argument guys. I beg you.

You said it yourself,
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Why?

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[deardean2]

I think this is the reason Christians are not making great impact on the world today as opposed to the time of the Disciples after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am seeking God to know Him personally as I cannot imagine groping through life blindly without His direction.
That said, do you hear God speak to you, Deardean2?

Yes, of course. Do you?

 

[deardean2]

While I agree with you, and I hear the Word of the Lord daily with instruction on which way to go; I also seek Him by reading His Word.
I believe this is very important, as there are many here who think they believe in God and His Word, but who constantly deny scriptures when advocating their dogmatic perspectives.
If they were more learned in the Word, like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, they would then more readily recognize the spoken Word from God, rather than the deceptive words from our adversary the devil (Revelation 12:9).

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Just think what anointed ones could do if they put aside their Bibles, listened to God and obeyed Him.

 

[luigi]

Just think what anointed ones could do if they put aside their Bibles, listened to God and obeyed Him.

I believe you are speaking about committing oneself to believing Christ totally, as in discipleship.
I don't know how many of us today do that, where we don't trust in currency or material goods.
Something very drastic would have to occur in order to create disciples as in the first century.

 

[deardean2]

I believe you are speaking about committing oneself to believing Christ totally, as in discipleship.
I don't know how many of us today do that, where we don't trust in currency or material goods.
Something very drastic would have to occur in order to create disciples as in the first century.

You are right, Luigi. From Acts onward the New Testament is all about disciples, NOT Christians. Yet today most people who call themselves "Christians" do not know that it means anointed one and that it was God who told the disciples to call themselves anointed ones. The traditional churches full of "Christians" are certainly not getting the job done but they all have Bibles and think they are theological experts.

And no, I don't hear about ANY disciples. If they were active they would be turning the world upside down and with our modern social internet everybody would know about it.

That's why there is going to be a world-wide economic collapse. God needs to shake His people up.

 

[John146]

Just think what anointed ones could do if they put aside their Bibles, listened to God and obeyed Him.

That's exactly what Jim Jones said...

 

[luigi]

You are right, Luigi. From Acts onward the New Testament is all about disciples, NOT Christians. Yet today most people who call themselves "Christians" do not know that it means anointed one and that it was God who told the disciples to call themselves anointed ones. The traditional churches full of "Christians" are certainly not getting the job done but they all have Bibles and think they are theological experts.

And no, I don't hear about ANY disciples. If they were active they would be turning the world upside down and with our modern social internet everybody would know about it.

That's why there is going to be a world-wide economic collapse. God needs to shake His people up.

Agreed. I believe I see the global economic collapse in Revelation 6, with the four horses and their riders representing the chaos going on throughout the world, prior to the beasts rise from the sea and initiation of his system.

 

[luigi]

Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Isaiah 65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Just think what anointed ones could do if they put aside their Bibles, listened to God and obeyed Him.

hmmm

just think what would happen if believers actually did do that

thing is, far too many believers do not actually know their Bibles now

the ones who do? will NEVER put aside their Bibles. that voice, is from the devil

does that sound harsh? false prophets would tell people to put aside their Bibles

sounds like something the NAR followers would say

no discernment and open to every spirit in the air whispering to them

no

Christians should get into their Bibles and understand what Jesus said about deception and learn that the Bible defines our faith and the apostasy would say we do not need our Bibles

have I heard from God? you betcha...and a few times out loud. I will never put down my Bible

 

[7seasrekeyed]

This is a common meme put out by cessationists.

I have heard a preacher say "Pray, thats you talking to God, and read your bible, thats God talking to you".. Well thats just not true. The epistle to the Corinthians is ..... to the corinthians. Not written to anyone in 2018. All scripture is PROFITABLE for learning correction etc etc.
But all scripture is NOT profitable for telling you: Who to marry, where to live, if you should even marry, what job to take, what ministry you are called to do, whats God's purpose for you in this life, what situations to avoid, what situations to get into. Basically: Daily things that people face in the real world.

Have I heard God speak audibly to me and say "Hey, do this and that". NO. But I still dont deny it can happen, it happened in the Bible. Im just not that spiritual maybe thats my problem.
But just because it didnt happen to me doesn't mean its impossible. Cant put God in a box.

I challenge any cessationist to provide a text from the scriptures alone that says God stopped talking. Its not there.
And please dont give me that ridiiclous "Oh if God spoke to you, lets just add it to revelation, a new book". That is an embarrasing argument. There are MANY prophets(and prophetesses) mentioned in the Bible and guess what, their prophecies are not WRITTEN in the bible. So moot point there, stop using that argument guys. I beg you.

so anyone who disagrees God's written word is THE standard by which we ascertain if anything outside that word is from God, is somehow a cessationist?

maybe read the Bible. don't put it down just yet

I am anything but a cessationist, yet I am convinced that much if not most, of what passes for so called 'prophecy, healing, and so on' is absolutely not God whatsoever and is in fact, demonic spirits having a field day with believers who have no discernment because they accept everything from God rather than using the GOLD STANDARD of what God has revealed to us by His written word

people who run after what they think is the miraculous, are being deceived right and left...and center

church can be one of the most dangerous places for a believer in this day and age

 

[CherieR]

 

[p_rehbein]

Yes, thanks for asking.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

thats funny. In the midst of that, I did answer the OP question too Pay attention next time.

I laughed while writing it Haha.
But answering the question does not make changing the topic suddenly acceptable. So perhaps it's not me needing to pay attention.