There are plenty of Scriptures which speak about the Church (all the saints) as the Body, the Bride, and the Building of Christ. Kindly obtain a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and go through every reference to "church" and "churches". There are local churches (assemblies) and then there is "the Church". Matthew 16:18 quoted above confirms this.
Where did this word "church" come from?
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Everything after visible is erroneously applied by your view.....the very NATURE of the Lord's churches deem then as VISIBLE assemblies....
ON the earth--->VISIBLE, INDIVIDUAL assemblies
In HEAVEN--->ONE BODY of believers before the LORD
PETER describes what takes place when WE ASSEMBLE visibly........and your Corinthian reference has NOTHING to do with the NATURE of the LORD'S Churches as applied to it's state of being VISIBLE.......
WHEN JESUS gathered his disciples and taught them was it INVISIBLE to those around them?
WHEN Hickory Stick church meets on 5th and Vine streets is it VISIBLE or INVISIBLE to the public.....?
Ekklesia--->LOCAL, VISIBLE, CALLED OUT ASSEMBLY
ON the earth--->VISIBLE, INDIVIDUAL assemblies
In HEAVEN--->ONE BODY of believers before the LORD
PETER describes what takes place when WE ASSEMBLE visibly........and your Corinthian reference has NOTHING to do with the NATURE of the LORD'S Churches as applied to it's state of being VISIBLE.......
WHEN JESUS gathered his disciples and taught them was it INVISIBLE to those around them?
WHEN Hickory Stick church meets on 5th and Vine streets is it VISIBLE or INVISIBLE to the public.....?
Ekklesia--->LOCAL, VISIBLE, CALLED OUT ASSEMBLY
The word “will” is not exactly to mean future. The word “will” is not always refer to the time element when. It also refers to determining element what. The Cambridge Learners Dictionary defines the word “will” as what someone or something is willing or able to do. In this case, Jesus will edify his church.
The Anglo-Saxon Gospel written circa 1200 has this and sprouted the English word “church”.
Matthew 16:18 & ich segge þe þæt þu ert petrus. & ofer þisne stan ich ge-tymbrie mine chyrcan. &. helle gate ne magen on-gean þa.
https://www.lcoggt.org/AngloSaxon/matthew.htm#CHAPTER 16
The Greek ekklesia on the other hand has the “ecclesiam” in Latin of late 4 ce. Is perhaps its transliteration of the Greek word.
Mathew 16:18 et ego dico tibi quia tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et portae inferi non praevalebunt adversum eam
http://www.latinvulgate.com/lv/verse.aspx?t=1&b=1&c=16
The Anglo-Saxon Gospel written circa 1200 has this and sprouted the English word “church”.
Matthew 16:18 & ich segge þe þæt þu ert petrus. & ofer þisne stan ich ge-tymbrie mine chyrcan. &. helle gate ne magen on-gean þa.
https://www.lcoggt.org/AngloSaxon/matthew.htm#CHAPTER 16
The Greek ekklesia on the other hand has the “ecclesiam” in Latin of late 4 ce. Is perhaps its transliteration of the Greek word.
Mathew 16:18 et ego dico tibi quia tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam et portae inferi non praevalebunt adversum eam
http://www.latinvulgate.com/lv/verse.aspx?t=1&b=1&c=16
I beg your pardon, but I did not just throw out that information from the cuff of my sleeve. The word is "οἰκοδομέω" translated as "I will build" which is listed as a verb and is in the future tense.
As I previously stated, the word "οἰκοδομέω" translated as "I will build" is in the future tense, as in "yet to be built" from the time that Jesus stated it. Consequently, the church is still in the process of being built and will continue to do so up until the Lord appears and catches up His bride.
That said, the OT saints are not apart of the church.
As I previously stated, the word "οἰκοδομέω" translated as "I will build" is in the future tense, as in "yet to be built" from the time that Jesus stated it. Consequently, the church is still in the process of being built and will continue to do so up until the Lord appears and catches up His bride.
That said, the OT saints are not apart of the church.
Now the problem with this is that the church really is to be built yet by Christ but the church has already been existed prior to his statement in Matthew 16:18. I have to agree the OT saints are not a part of the New Testament Church and I have to agree the church is still being built until the rapture.
I still needed to find some time going to greek tense lesson but I found this:
TENSE indicates not only time of action, but more especially kind of action.
In other words, Christ statement in Matthew 16:18 is more of the kind of action he will take to protect his own that is why he needs to edify, build or strengthen so that the gates of hell shall not prevails against it.
God bless
I still needed to find some time going to greek tense lesson but I found this:
TENSE indicates not only time of action, but more especially kind of action.
In other words, Christ statement in Matthew 16:18 is more of the kind of action he will take to protect his own that is why he needs to edify, build or strengthen so that the gates of hell shall not prevails against it.
God bless