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Galatians 1:6-8 (NKJV)
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
There is Not room for TWO Gospels.
The GOSPEL OF GRACE, with nothing else added to it.
The false Gospel of so-called Grace, with works to finish it.
2 Corinthians 12:9 (NKJV)
9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
There is Not room for TWO Gospels.
The GOSPEL OF GRACE, with nothing else added to it.
The false Gospel of so-called Grace, with works to finish it.
2 Corinthians 12:9 (NKJV)
9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
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By Ray Pritchard on Oct 02, 2018 12:04 am
Sometimes Christians worry about whether their faith is strong enough to take them to heaven. They get scared and say, “I’m hanging on to Jesus. But what if I lose my grip?”
That can happen. If your salvation depends upon your hanging onto Jesus, you could be in trouble.
It's like a little child who is hanging onto his father’s finger. The child is doing well until he begins to slip. As he falls, the child accidentally lets go of the father’s finger. But when the father reaches down, he doesn’t grab a finger. He grabs a hand.
You are not going to heaven because you are holding on to Jesus. You’re going to go to heaven because Jesus is holding on to you.
Sometimes Christians worry about whether their faith is strong enough to take them to heaven. They get scared and say, “I’m hanging on to Jesus. But what if I lose my grip?”
That can happen. If your salvation depends upon your hanging onto Jesus, you could be in trouble.
It's like a little child who is hanging onto his father’s finger. The child is doing well until he begins to slip. As he falls, the child accidentally lets go of the father’s finger. But when the father reaches down, he doesn’t grab a finger. He grabs a hand.
You are not going to heaven because you are holding on to Jesus. You’re going to go to heaven because Jesus is holding on to you.
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Dude, I am not creating a division.
We have two gospels. Satan created a division by convincing one of us the wrong gospel is right.
Works and grace can not realate, even scriptures states this, if it is works, it is no longer grace otherwise works is no longer work, if it is grace it is no longer works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
Mixing works and grace is like mixing oil and water, they do not mix.
We have two gospels. Satan created a division by convincing one of us the wrong gospel is right.
Works and grace can not realate, even scriptures states this, if it is works, it is no longer grace otherwise works is no longer work, if it is grace it is no longer works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
Mixing works and grace is like mixing oil and water, they do not mix.
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You say, "can you keep your promises", but Jesus says' "Let your communication be, "Yea yea: Nay nay."
Jesus say's do not swear a promise but, Let your "yes be yes and your no be no"
Jesus say's, "Swear not at all"
God say's His salvation is a gift, and you say we need to "work" to keep yourself saved, the opposite of what the bible say's. Jesus say's do not make promises but let your yes be yes and your no be no. Your fake gospel is the exact opposite of what the bible teaches.
Matthew5:34
33) "Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34) But I say unto you, "Swear not at all" ; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne." 35) Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37) But let your communication be, "Yea, yea; Nay, nay": for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil
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Jesus say's do not swear a promise but, Let your "yes be yes and your no be no"
Jesus say's, "Swear not at all"
God say's His salvation is a gift, and you say we need to "work" to keep yourself saved, the opposite of what the bible say's. Jesus say's do not make promises but let your yes be yes and your no be no. Your fake gospel is the exact opposite of what the bible teaches.
Matthew5:34
33) "Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34) But I say unto you, "Swear not at all" ; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne." 35) Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37) But let your communication be, "Yea, yea; Nay, nay": for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil
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Actually I think grace and works do relate or correlate.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Saved by faith through faith to do works prepared in advance of being saved.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Saved by faith through faith to do works prepared in advance of being saved.
You are right, that is why there is the process of repentance and forgiveness, and the grace of Jesus Christ to lift us to EL. But if we find ourselves on the downward spiral and we repent not and continue our downward spiral, and we do not receive repentance, we will lose our EL. How many Christians have you seen leave the churches in the last 10 years? They are on a downward spiral out of EL.