So even though the Lord hates divisions, you are bound and determined to create and maintain division?
Not By Works
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Just posted a study on that very topic . . .
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...christian-become-clean-and-stay-clean.179734/
Thank you, brother, God bless you as well! I wonder if my dream this morning had anything to do with the disturbance in here last night
Galatians 1:6-8 (NKJV)
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
There is Not room for TWO Gospels.
The GOSPEL OF GRACE, with nothing else added to it.
The false Gospel of so-called Grace, with works to finish it.
2 Corinthians 12:9 (NKJV)
9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
There is no doubt that Jesus can keep his promises. But can you keep your promises against that day, is the question?
By Ray Pritchard on Oct 02, 2018 12:04 am
Sometimes Christians worry about whether their faith is strong enough to take them to heaven. They get scared and say, “I’m hanging on to Jesus. But what if I lose my grip?”
That can happen. If your salvation depends upon your hanging onto Jesus, you could be in trouble.
It's like a little child who is hanging onto his father’s finger. The child is doing well until he begins to slip. As he falls, the child accidentally lets go of the father’s finger. But when the father reaches down, he doesn’t grab a finger. He grabs a hand.
You are not going to heaven because you are holding on to Jesus. You’re going to go to heaven because Jesus is holding on to you.
Sometimes Christians worry about whether their faith is strong enough to take them to heaven. They get scared and say, “I’m hanging on to Jesus. But what if I lose my grip?”
That can happen. If your salvation depends upon your hanging onto Jesus, you could be in trouble.
It's like a little child who is hanging onto his father’s finger. The child is doing well until he begins to slip. As he falls, the child accidentally lets go of the father’s finger. But when the father reaches down, he doesn’t grab a finger. He grabs a hand.
You are not going to heaven because you are holding on to Jesus. You’re going to go to heaven because Jesus is holding on to you.
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eternally-gratefull
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Dude, I am not creating a division.
We have two gospels. Satan created a division by convincing one of us the wrong gospel is right.
Works and grace can not realate, even scriptures states this, if it is works, it is no longer grace otherwise works is no longer work, if it is grace it is no longer works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
Mixing works and grace is like mixing oil and water, they do not mix.
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eternally-gratefull
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Adding to the completed word again?
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" (Revelation 22:18).
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see
They have eyes but do not see, and have ears but refuse to hear.
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NoNameMcgee
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Jesus will keep His promises.... regardless of my power to keep any "promise"
no one is saved by their own promises
"But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil" (II Thessalonians 3:3).
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theanointedsinner
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seek Him with all your heart and you will find Him (Jeremiah 29:13)
in this verse, please clarify how seeking is not works
in this verse, please clarify how seeking is not works
You say, "can you keep your promises", but Jesus says' "Let your communication be, "Yea yea: Nay nay."
Jesus say's do not swear a promise but, Let your "yes be yes and your no be no"
Jesus say's, "Swear not at all"
God say's His salvation is a gift, and you say we need to "work" to keep yourself saved, the opposite of what the bible say's. Jesus say's do not make promises but let your yes be yes and your no be no. Your fake gospel is the exact opposite of what the bible teaches.
Matthew5:34
33) "Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34) But I say unto you, "Swear not at all" ; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne." 35) Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37) But let your communication be, "Yea, yea; Nay, nay": for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil
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Amen Mcgee, and God bless you for this truth.
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Everything benhur say's is the opposite of what the bible teaches, bitter is sweet, hot is cold, etc.
He pushes a counterfeit gospel be careful.
He pushes a counterfeit gospel be careful.
Actually I think grace and works do relate or correlate.
Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Saved by faith through faith to do works prepared in advance of being saved.
You are right, that is why there is the process of repentance and forgiveness, and the grace of Jesus Christ to lift us to EL. But if we find ourselves on the downward spiral and we repent not and continue our downward spiral, and we do not receive repentance, we will lose our EL. How many Christians have you seen leave the churches in the last 10 years? They are on a downward spiral out of EL.
Well, TT, let's see if everything I say is opposite of what the bible teaches and see if you are telling the truth:
Here is 1 thing I have said almost every day.
I believe we must believe that Jesus is the Son of God and our Savior. Is that the truth, or is that opposite of what the bible teaches?