Kavanaugh Debacle

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memyselfi

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Do you think the liberals have become so corrupt that this whole Kavanaugh debacle, is because they do not want a pro-life judge on the US Supreme Court?
 
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SpoonJuly

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Do you think the liberals have become so corrupt that this whole Kavanaugh debacle, is because they do not want a pro-life judge on the US Supreme Court?
I believe it is all about their hate for Trump and refusal to accept that Hillary lost.
Would make no difference who he nominated, the results would be the same.
 

memyselfi

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I believe it is all about their hate for Trump and refusal to accept that Hillary lost.
Would make no difference who he nominated, the results would be the same.
Sadly, I agree. I pray Kavanaugh is confirmed (or what ever the term is). If Trump would nominate a conservative, (by any name) you can fill in the blank for the name, it would be the same result from the Senate for the seat in the Supreme Court...
 
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claysmithr

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Kavanaugh is corrupt, so is Trump, all of them are. Get out of the left/right paradigm, because that makes you easily controllable.
 

memyselfi

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Kavanaugh is corrupt, so is Trump, all of them are. Get out of the left/right paradigm, because that makes you easily controllable.
How are they corrupt? Who would you want as a Justice on the US Supreme Court?
 

memyselfi

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I really do think this what it boils down to because Trump would only nominate conservatives and this seat is to replace a pro-choice judge. With that said no liberalist wants a Trump nominee simply because he President Trump.

This weeds out who is for liberty and who is not!
 

Blanche

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Do you all think that Kavanaugh's accuser lied? I think the timing is very suspicious ... but ... the charge may well be true. Most women do not lie about such things.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Do you all think that Kavanaugh's accuser lied? I think the timing is very suspicious ... but ... the charge may well be true. Most women do not lie about such things.
I really wonder why people don’t ask themselves what it’s really like being a young woman.

You really have to be aware of what kind of men you’re interacting with. Friends, kins, colleges, random men on the sidewalk. Many of them thinks women are there just for their amusement.

Whenever some of them men getting drunk, they really makes for a bad attitude. Back whenever I was a young woman, luckily I managed to stay clear of the predators, but that was because us girls were looking after each other.

Why should Mrs Ford be lying? I think it’s a disgrace accusing her of that. You don’t step forward like that for fun or for nothing else, really.

He should have just told her he was sorry, and that it was wrong what he did. Then he’d be a real man taking responsibility for his actions.
 
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SpoonJuly

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I really wonder why people don’t ask themselves what it’s really like being a young woman.

You really have to be aware of what kind of men you’re interacting with. Friends, kins, colleges, random men on the sidewalk. Many of them thinks women are there just for their amusement.

Whenever some of them men getting drunk, they really makes for a bad attitude. Back whenever I was a young woman, luckily I managed to stay clear of the predators, but that was because us girls were looking after each other.

Why should Mrs Ford be lying? I think it’s a disgrace accusing her of that. You don’t step forward like that for fun or for nothing else, really.

He should have just told her he was sorry, and that it was wrong what he did. Then he’d be a real man taking responsibility for his actions.
There is a lot of lying going on in this political arena today.
You have judged him guilty based only on her accusation. Because she is a woman and he is a man she is to be believed and he is not.
Every person she said was present did not comfern her charges.

The Bible teaches us that we are to bring two or three witnesses when we accuse some one.

She is a liberal Dem. A liberal collage professor. She did not want this man on the court.
I am not saying she lied, but I can see where she may have had a reason to do so, or at least to accuse the wrong man.
And there is ample evidence that she did on many occasions put here self in a place where such terrible things could happen.

You were a wise and responsible young lady, apparently she was not.
 

Blanche

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There is a lot of lying going on in this political arena t
And there is ample evidence that she did on many occasions put here self in a place where such terrible things could happen.

You were a wise and responsible young lady, apparently she was not.
This is what is known as blaming the victim. In effect, it puts the responsibility on the woman NOT to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Since most women know their rapist/assulter, how can one even do this? Most are family, friends of family, or acquaintance friends. Rape/assault is a crime about power and control. It is not about sex. You can read up on these things. It can happen to your mother, your grandmother, your daughter, sister, and sadly, your child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

 
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UnderGrace

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I really wonder why people don’t ask themselves what it’s really like being a young woman.

You really have to be aware of what kind of men you’re interacting with. Friends, kins, colleges, random men on the sidewalk. Many of them thinks women are there just for their amusement.

Whenever some of them men getting drunk, they really makes for a bad attitude. Back whenever I was a young woman, luckily I managed to stay clear of the predators, but that was because us girls were looking after each other.

Why should Mrs Ford be lying? I think it’s a disgrace accusing her of that. You don’t step forward like that for fun or for nothing else, really.

He should have just told her he was sorry, and that it was wrong what he did. Then he’d be a real man taking responsibility for his actions.
Emmett Till .......a martyr at the hands of a liar.

Look up the Innocence Project it will be an eye opener.
 
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UnderGrace

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This is what is known as blaming the victim. In effect, it puts the responsibility on the woman NOT to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Since most women know their rapist/assulter, how can one even do this? Most are family, friends of family, or acquaintance friends. Rape/assault is a crime about power and control. It is not about sex. You can read up on these things. It can happen to your mother, your grandmother, your daughter, sister, and sadly, your child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming


Hardly what is happening, she is an alleged victim, because we have no proof. It was 36 years ago. It is an unproven accusation.

Do your homework.

The feminist rubric is: believe the victim; don’t look for discrediting evidence; false allegations are extremely rare.

That simply isn’t true. Not today and not historically. Retired international lawyer and former U.S. prosecutor John Davis, who brings depth of experience in rape and sexual assault cases to his argumentation, reminds us, in his book, False Accusation of Rape: Lynching in the 21st Century, of the thousands of cases of white women who — knowing the dire consequences — falsely accused black men of sexually inappropriate conduct. Don’t we all wish that the story of the white woman who in 1955 falsely accused black martyr 14-year old Emmett Till of winking at her in her family’s grocery store had been subjected to rigorous scrutiny in a gender and race-blind courtroom?

National Post

Emmett Till was beaten to death based on lies, so do not tell me about blaming the victim.
 
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Jennie-Mae

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Hardly what is happening, she is an alleged victim, because we have no proof. It was 36 years ago. It is an unproven accusation.

Do your homework.

The feminist rubric is: believe the victim; don’t look for discrediting evidence; false allegations are extremely rare.

That simply isn’t true. Not today and not historically. Retired international lawyer and former U.S. prosecutor John Davis, who brings depth of experience in rape and sexual assault cases to his argumentation, reminds us, in his book, False Accusation of Rape: Lynching in the 21st Century, of the thousands of cases of white women who — knowing the dire consequences — falsely accused black men of sexually inappropriate conduct. Don’t we all wish that the story of the white woman who in 1955 falsely accused black martyr 14-year old Emmett Till of winking at her in her family’s grocery store had been subjected to rigorous scrutiny in a gender and race-blind courtroom?

National Post

Emmett Till was beaten to death based on lies, so do not tell me about blaming the victim.
In the South any relationship between a white woman and a black man was considered an act of treason by other whites back then. That fact alone made some women throw out false accusations. They didn’t have the guts to admit the relationship. It was considered a shame to their families and kins as well. They might could lose, no, in fact, they lost their positions in society because they’d been with men society viewed with contempt and disgust. Those were hard times. As you know, our schools were segregated back then and any attempt to be socializing interracially was frowned upon, to put it mildly. Admitting to having a relationship would brand them for eternity.

I think it’s not accurate to compare a woman whose accusing a man of power, not at all a pariah, to women falsely accusing black men back in the fifties.

Accusing a black man back then for just about anything was comparable to putting a bullet in his head in those days. It was as good as no downside. The accuser got shed of him but had by that been showing God her true colors.

What about accusing a powerful white man? How’s that going these days? Accusing a powerful man is never a good idea, that’s the truth. Mrs Ford knew it, yet she stepped up. Do you ever wonder why?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I really wonder why people don’t ask themselves what it’s really like being a young woman.

You really have to be aware of what kind of men you’re interacting with. Friends, kins, colleges, random men on the sidewalk. Many of them thinks women are there just for their amusement.

Whenever some of them men getting drunk, they really makes for a bad attitude. Back whenever I was a young woman, luckily I managed to stay clear of the predators, but that was because us girls were looking after each other.

Why should Mrs Ford be lying? I think it’s a disgrace accusing her of that. You don’t step forward like that for fun or for nothing else, really.

He should have just told her he was sorry, and that it was wrong what he did. Then he’d be a real man taking responsibility for his actions.
well, having been a young woman myself and now older than when I was young, I would never have gone to the type of home gatherings Ford is well known for having attended

what gives you or anyone the right to assume Kavanaugh is lying? he has not been caught in any lies while Ford has been caught several times...in fact I heard her myself when she (cough cough) testified

seriously...what do you hope to achieve with your apparent inability to accept the fact that women do lie?

women are not the sweet young thangs they were years ago.

culture shock: Ford was a well known attender of wild parties

you need to keep up with the news because alot of things have been uncovered regarding the other 2 accusers and one recanted

real women do not need to lie about being sexually accosted and real women do not say they are afraid to fly and it turns out they hop all over the place in all kinds of planes

get real

I wonder if your son (should you have one cause I don't know) were accused of rape. would you simply believe the woman who accused him?

if you say yes, you are not being truthful. same applies to you. if you were accused of something and you did not do what you were accused of, would you enjoy everyone assuming you were actually guilty?

you may yet take the prize for most uninformed poster of the year :rolleyes:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Do you think the liberals have become so corrupt that this whole Kavanaugh debacle, is because they do not want a pro-life judge on the US Supreme Court?

oh it's deeper than that

the dems are fighting for their lives and prefer to create law by placing like minded judges in postions of authority

that is not how laws are created

but of course they do not want a pro-life anyone anywhere and they cannot accept Trump or anyone who disagrees with their agenda
 
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7seasrekeyed

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This is what is known as blaming the victim. In effect, it puts the responsibility on the woman NOT to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Since most women know their rapist/assulter, how can one even do this? Most are family, friends of family, or acquaintance friends. Rape/assault is a crime about power and control. It is not about sex. You can read up on these things. It can happen to your mother, your grandmother, your daughter, sister, and sadly, your child.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming


or maybe don't drink so much you don't remember who did what or where they did it, when they did it and quite possibly if they did it

so the new way to judge if someone is innocent or guilty appears to be to assume all women are truthful and all men are liars

and it is actually a VERY good idea not to put yourself in harm's way...like making sure no car is coming when you cross a busy road on foot

women must have more power then men if all they have to do is cry rape and they are believed

but when did a supposed assault turn into rape?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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What about accusing a powerful white man? How’s that going these days? Accusing a powerful man is never a good idea, that’s the truth. Mrs Ford knew it, yet she stepped up. Do you ever wonder why?
Ford has you and all who believe her conned

she is disgusting and as a woman, I would want to distance myself as far as possible from this prototype

women like her do harm to women who actually ARE sexually assaulted

as far as why she falsely testified under oath, she is a dyed in the wool dem who, like the rest of her ilk, has no compulsion against lying