Till the Son of man be come
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Probably a similar situation to:
"For whoever may have been ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He shall come in His glory, and that of the Father and of the holy angels. And I say to you truthfully, there are some of those standing here who shall not taste of death until they shall have seen the kingdom of God.”
Lk 9:26-27
The context is not about His spiritual kingdom we have now.
"For whoever may have been ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He shall come in His glory, and that of the Father and of the holy angels. And I say to you truthfully, there are some of those standing here who shall not taste of death until they shall have seen the kingdom of God.”
Lk 9:26-27
The context is not about His spiritual kingdom we have now.
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That's interesting. If you meant the Son of man in respect to the temporal flesh who was there will not be ashamed when he comes in his unseen glory as the Son of God.
The Son of man was not in his glory. His temporal flesh represented his unseen glory, as the Son of God not seen.
That would seem to aid by helping us understand God is not a man as us and will not return in a temporal form again for another demonstration. One is all that was offered.
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.2 Corinthians 5:16
Many are looking for him to return in the flesh as if the veil has not already been rent. It would seem the scriptures say those who do look for another demonstration in the flesh would be part of the antichrists who do walk by sight.( natural man, no faith)
The Son of man was not in his glory. His temporal flesh represented his unseen glory, as the Son of God not seen.
That would seem to aid by helping us understand God is not a man as us and will not return in a temporal form again for another demonstration. One is all that was offered.
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.2 Corinthians 5:16
Many are looking for him to return in the flesh as if the veil has not already been rent. It would seem the scriptures say those who do look for another demonstration in the flesh would be part of the antichrists who do walk by sight.( natural man, no faith)
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You dont have the permission to talk to me, you dont even know what words mean. The irony is real.
You are the guy who claims Matthew 28:19 has "nothing" to do wtih water baptism. Rather its "associate with". A.k.a go to all the nations and teach them to keep all that i have commanded you, and associate them with (teach again)......
You are the guy who claims Matthew 28:19 has "nothing" to do wtih water baptism. Rather its "associate with". A.k.a go to all the nations and teach them to keep all that i have commanded you, and associate them with (teach again)......
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It certainly doesn't!
Daniel, the Lord Jesus, Paul and John put it in the future yet to be fulfilled (the last 7 years of this Age, especially the last 3 and a half years, the period known as the Great Tribulation Rev 7v9,10,14), the cardinal feature that the Lord Jesus points to is when Antichrist sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that He is God. Matt 24v3,15-21, 2Thess 2v1-12, Rev 1v19,4v1, Rev chapter 13, Dan 9v27, 11v31, 12v1,11.
It certainly doesn't!
Daniel, the Lord Jesus, Paul and John put it in the future yet to be fulfilled (the last 7 years of this Age, especially the last 3 and a half years, the period known as the Great Tribulation Rev 7v9,10,14), the cardinal feature that the Lord Jesus points to is when Antichrist sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that He is God. Matt 24v3,15-21, 2Thess 2v1-12, Rev 1v19,4v1, Rev chapter 13, Dan 9v27, 11v31, 12v1,11.
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I would agree .But in respect to the time of reformation signaled by the renting of the veil .A end of the use of a outward temple . The believer become that temple as he sends the new order as a kingdom priests out two by two. the restored government of Christ is restored according to the time of reformation to the time period before there were any outward representatives as Kings and fathers in Israel.... when men walked by faith in respect to our unseen King of kings.
70 in that portion is a figure of speech as a parable. It simply indicated completeness or perfection . It is seen by the words that echoed ..".It is finished ……and the graves were opened ,the promised glory ("to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness. ) Its the only time period that could reconcile the pattern below in Daniel 9. A one time demonstration
The literal stones in the wall were made to no effect. Again the veil was the heart of the matter. Today a portion of that wall still stands and the unbelieving Jews use it as a idol to cry out for God in hope the Son of man will appear the first time.
Daniel 9:23-25 (KJV) At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
70 in that portion is a figure of speech as a parable. It simply indicated completeness or perfection . It is seen by the words that echoed ..".It is finished ……and the graves were opened ,the promised glory ("to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness. ) Its the only time period that could reconcile the pattern below in Daniel 9. A one time demonstration
The literal stones in the wall were made to no effect. Again the veil was the heart of the matter. Today a portion of that wall still stands and the unbelieving Jews use it as a idol to cry out for God in hope the Son of man will appear the first time.
Daniel 9:23-25 (KJV) At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Here's my view:
--ALL "Son of man cometh/coming/shall come/etc" verses/passages refer to His Second Coming to the earth [and not to the time of our Rapture]
--consider the usage of a "proleptic 'you'," which means "all those in the future, of the same category" [believing remnant of Jews in the future; Paul also uses a "proleptic 'you'" when speaking of all those who make up "the Church which is His body," such as the "you" in 2Cor11:2 (all those saved in 'this present age,' up to the time of our Rapture)]
--Matthew 22:7-8 supplying a CHRONOLOGICAL SEQUENCE of: verse 7 referring to the events surrounding 70ad ("when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city." Then verse 8 refers to what comes AFTER that, where it says, "THEN SAITH HE to his servants...," and what came AFTER the events surrounding 70ad was the 95ad writing of "The Revelation," where verse 1 states, "[The] Revelation of Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM [Jesus], TO SHEW UNTO His servants [see 7:3] things which must come to pass [see 4:1 (the "FUTURE" things)] IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]," [not events occurring over the past near-2000-years, but "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" (the 7-yrs/70th-Wk/"end [singular] of the age [singular]"/the tribulation period(commonly-so-called) commencing upon the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR; 1Th5:2-3--of many more to follow, per Jesus' words in Matt24:4-8/Mk13:5-8/Lk21:8-11] at the START of "the Day of the Lord [time period]," i.e. SEAL #1 (the man of sin be revealed)]
--so that in Matt22:8-14, it is the far-future [trib] folks doing the "inviting" FOR/TO the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom (not what is taking place PRESENTLY [which pertains to "the MARRIAGE" itself, as distinct (2Cor11:2)]), which earthly MK will commence upon His "RETURN" to the earth (not at our Rapture); that is, Rev19:9 as distinct from Rev19:7
--I forget what else I was going to add... lol (maybe it'll come to me later... but surely not before my 5-mins is up! ha)
--ALL "Son of man cometh/coming/shall come/etc" verses/passages refer to His Second Coming to the earth [and not to the time of our Rapture]
--consider the usage of a "proleptic 'you'," which means "all those in the future, of the same category" [believing remnant of Jews in the future; Paul also uses a "proleptic 'you'" when speaking of all those who make up "the Church which is His body," such as the "you" in 2Cor11:2 (all those saved in 'this present age,' up to the time of our Rapture)]
--Matthew 22:7-8 supplying a CHRONOLOGICAL SEQUENCE of: verse 7 referring to the events surrounding 70ad ("when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city." Then verse 8 refers to what comes AFTER that, where it says, "THEN SAITH HE to his servants...," and what came AFTER the events surrounding 70ad was the 95ad writing of "The Revelation," where verse 1 states, "[The] Revelation of Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM [Jesus], TO SHEW UNTO His servants [see 7:3] things which must come to pass [see 4:1 (the "FUTURE" things)] IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]," [not events occurring over the past near-2000-years, but "IN QUICKNESS [NOUN]" (the 7-yrs/70th-Wk/"end [singular] of the age [singular]"/the tribulation period(commonly-so-called) commencing upon the INITIAL "birth PANG [SINGULAR; 1Th5:2-3--of many more to follow, per Jesus' words in Matt24:4-8/Mk13:5-8/Lk21:8-11] at the START of "the Day of the Lord [time period]," i.e. SEAL #1 (the man of sin be revealed)]
--so that in Matt22:8-14, it is the far-future [trib] folks doing the "inviting" FOR/TO the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom (not what is taking place PRESENTLY [which pertains to "the MARRIAGE" itself, as distinct (2Cor11:2)]), which earthly MK will commence upon His "RETURN" to the earth (not at our Rapture); that is, Rev19:9 as distinct from Rev19:7
--I forget what else I was going to add... lol (maybe it'll come to me later... but surely not before my 5-mins is up! ha)
Not the most popular offering but one that surely fits the description of the antichrists (many) as those who are led by the spirit of the antichrist , one. The father of lies Satan
I think that prophecy when the Antichrist sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that He is God was fulfilled in Mathew 16 . It is shown as offending God by blaspheming the holy name by which we are called.
1 John 2 warns us of those who would seduce us teaching others we do need a man seen to teach us making the Holy anointing Spirit of God without effect as the motive of operation for antichrists the many who were there . Reminding us it is the last days or time typified by the metaphor.... thousand years
1 John 2:18-27 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Peter who was used as an example not to blaspheme the things of God not seen. He did deny Christ as a antichrist one of the many , Taking on the teaching role of the Holy Spirit by blaspheming the Son of man as that seen . But Christ could not deny his own self having already elected Peter to salvation. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy seeing it had to do with the "things of men seen".
Blasphemy after the Son of man left will not be forgiven in this age or the age to come, the new heavens and earth.
It is very important that we learn the difference between "the things of God and those of men" .One spells out the antichrists the many that were there.That do sit in the place of God.
Note.... Peter in purple the things of men . the Lord in red the things of Gdo
Mathew 16: 22-24 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Again if Peter performed that today he would not be forgiven of his blasphemy.
Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
I think that prophecy when the Antichrist sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that He is God was fulfilled in Mathew 16 . It is shown as offending God by blaspheming the holy name by which we are called.
1 John 2 warns us of those who would seduce us teaching others we do need a man seen to teach us making the Holy anointing Spirit of God without effect as the motive of operation for antichrists the many who were there . Reminding us it is the last days or time typified by the metaphor.... thousand years
1 John 2:18-27 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Peter who was used as an example not to blaspheme the things of God not seen. He did deny Christ as a antichrist one of the many , Taking on the teaching role of the Holy Spirit by blaspheming the Son of man as that seen . But Christ could not deny his own self having already elected Peter to salvation. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy seeing it had to do with the "things of men seen".
Blasphemy after the Son of man left will not be forgiven in this age or the age to come, the new heavens and earth.
It is very important that we learn the difference between "the things of God and those of men" .One spells out the antichrists the many that were there.That do sit in the place of God.
Note.... Peter in purple the things of men . the Lord in red the things of Gdo
Mathew 16: 22-24 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Again if Peter performed that today he would not be forgiven of his blasphemy.
Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.