Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

[memyselfi]

You know Peter talks about how we are sojourners here living in earthly booths/tents…. I think in one of the Peters.... this is coming from memory... it can be looked up. Any way... I forget sometimes to keep my eye on the prize heaven. But that is what the walk is for, humbling ones self, esteeming others higher that myself, oh my.... obedience…. to the point of death of the flesh....

Paul said (somewhere), if the resurrection was not real then we are men to be most pitied.

The Bible describes heavens beauty... The 12 gates are made of 12 pearls... now that is some 12 pearls…. to be solid like that, my own mansion, and seeing my cat Loopy playing with her cousins' the lions (the lamb will lay down with the lion)((why not a cat play with a lion)).

I have heard some preach if you are not a "giant" in faith on earth you will get a job shoving manure in heaven. We will work in heaven for the Lord and our actions determine our jobs in heaven.

Now, I hate working so that just seams false to me to bein with....lol But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

 

[EvangAlived]

...But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

Yes. And we can know something of it from scripture, and all the unfallen worlds, with the unfallen beings therein. Want to study a bit? Let me know.

Here is an online booklet, Heaven, by Pastor Joe Crews

This book (compilation) may also be to your liking - "Heaven" - http://www.centrowhite.org.br/files/ebooks/egw-english/books/Heaven.pdf

 

[7seasrekeyed]

You know Peter talks about how we are sojourners here living in earthly booths/tents…. I think in one of the Peters.... this is coming from memory... it can be looked up. Any way... I forget sometimes to keep my eye on the prize heaven. But that is what the walk is for, humbling ones self, esteeming others higher that myself, oh my.... obedience…. to the point of death of the flesh....

Paul said (somewhere), if the resurrection was not real then we are men to be most pitied.

The Bible describes heavens beauty... The 12 gates are made of 12 pearls... now that is some 12 pearls…. to be solid like that, my own mansion, and seeing my cat Loopy playing with her cousins' the lions (the lamb will lay down with the lion)((why not a cat play with a lion)).

I have heard some preach if you are not a "giant" in faith on earth you will get a job shoving manure in heaven. We will work in heaven for the Lord and our actions determine our jobs in heaven.

Now, I hate working so that just seams false to me to bein with....lol But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

huh

well God knows I'm not about fancy

really would prefer something in the woods by a lake and might need to shovel manure as I would love to have a few horses

I am also positive God would not force me to live in a big mansion on a gold street because that would not suit me at all

so I say let the giants have at the big houses and all the hoopla

I'll be happy to ride a horse in front of Jesus announcing His presence and serve Him in the capacity He sees fit

I have a big imagination but I have no idea if any of that will occur

what I do know, is this

9 But as it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

I Corinthians 2:9

 

[memyselfi]

huh

well God knows I'm not about fancy

really would prefer something in the woods by a lake and might need to shovel manure as I would love to have a few horses

I am also positive God would not force me to live in a big mansion on a gold street because that would not suit me at all

so I say let the giants have at the big houses and all the hoopla

I'll be happy to ride a horse in front of Jesus announcing His presence and serve Him in the capacity He sees fit

I have a big imagination but I have no idea if any of that will occur

what I do know, is this

9 But as it is written:

“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

I Corinthians 2:9

I love your thoughts... to be honest I don't think there will be any poop in heaven... It's is full of diseases (bad bacteria anyway) and just nasty....

 

[deardean2]

You know Peter talks about how we are sojourners here living in earthly booths/tents…. I think in one of the Peters.... this is coming from memory... it can be looked up. Any way... I forget sometimes to keep my eye on the prize heaven. But that is what the walk is for, humbling ones self, esteeming others higher that myself, oh my.... obedience…. to the point of death of the flesh....

Paul said (somewhere), if the resurrection was not real then we are men to be most pitied.

The Bible describes heavens beauty... The 12 gates are made of 12 pearls... now that is some 12 pearls…. to be solid like that, my own mansion, and seeing my cat Loopy playing with her cousins' the lions (the lamb will lay down with the lion)((why not a cat play with a lion)).

I have heard some preach if you are not a "giant" in faith on earth you will get a job shoving manure in heaven. We will work in heaven for the Lord and our actions determine our jobs in heaven.

Now, I hate working so that just seams false to me to bein with....lol But this brings me to my question(s)…. Do you think about heaven? What do you think heaven is like?

If you want some first hand experienced related to heaven go to youtube and search for NDE = near death experiences. These are stories by people who have died, gone to heaven, and returned to live on earth again.

 

[memyselfi]

If you want some first hand experienced related to heaven go to youtube and search for NDE = near death experiences. These are stories by people who have died, gone to heaven, and returned to live on earth again.

Do you believe them?

 

[Deade]

Yes. And we can know something of it from scripture, and all the unfallen worlds, with the unfallen beings therein. Want to study a bit? Let me know.

Here is an online booklet, Heaven, by Pastor Joe Crews

This book (compilation) may also be to your liking - "Heaven" - http://www.centrowhite.org.br/files/ebooks/egw-english/books/Heaven.pdf

This is SDA propaganda, and it is full of holes as usual. Nobody is going to heaven, at least until the millennial reign is over. The millennial reign is here on earth.

Rev. 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Rev. 5:10 "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

So you see heaven "the kingdom of" is coming to earth for the millennial reign. After that death and the grave will be eliminated (Rev. 20:14) and we will rule the universe from our home base New Jerusalem, here on earth.

 

[EvangAlived]

Do you believe them?

Not I. Not even for a moment, since they all contradict one another, and do not align with scripture (KJB).

 

[CherieR]

I have thought of heaven. I hope to see my dad there and give him a hug and Jesus a hug. I don't know if my dad is ever able to see me from above. I don't know how that works.

 

[Deade]

If you want some first hand experienced related to heaven go to youtube and search for NDE = near death experiences. These are stories by people who have died, gone to heaven, and returned to live on earth again.

My second wife had a NDE and she feels she talked with God. She told Him she wanted to watch her baby grow up. She did not know where she was at but next thing she was back in her body, alive. We both believe scripture tells us that the dead are asleep. God allowed her that vision for a purpose, but He knew He wasn't keeping her at that time. Hence, just a vision. She says it is just as real as anything else in her life.

 

[EvangAlived]

This is SDA propaganda, and it is full of holes as usual. Nobody is going to heaven, at least until the millennial reign is over. The millennial reign is here on earth.

Rev. 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Rev. 5:10 "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

So you see heaven "the kingdom of" is coming to earth for the millennial reign. After that death and the grave will be eliminated (Rev. 20:14) and we will rule the universe from our home base New Jerusalem, here on earth.

This really isn't the thread for this, is it? I was attempting to be helpful on OP, and I can also demonstrate the veractiy of everything in those two links from scripture (KJB) which is what I offered before them both.

You are mistaken, and combined two passages which are not speaking of the same timeframe,

Here are the texts of Revelation 20:1-6 KJB cited:

Revelation 20:1 KJB - And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.​

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Revelation 20:2 KJB - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,​

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Revelation 20:3 KJB - And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.​

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Revelation 20:4 KJB - And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.​

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Revelation 20:5 KJB - But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.​

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Revelation 20:6 KJB - Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.​

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Revelation 20:7 KJB - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,​

Please notice, that in these texts [Revelation 20:1-6 KJB], there is no where written that either Jesus, or the “saints” (or “satan” for that matter), shall “reign upon the earth” for 1,000 years, but simply says [vss. 4,6] that Jesus and the saints reigned “a thousand years”. The location of this 1,000 reign is nowhere stated to be “upon the earth” in these, or any passages of scripture [KJB]. One should very carefully look for themselves. It also is very clearly written that “satan” himself was not reigning during this “thousand years”, but is “bound” and “shut … up” with a “seal” placed “upon him”.

The phrase “the day of the Lord” [Isaiah 2:12, 13:6,9, 34:8; Jeremiah 46:10; Lamentations 2:22; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31, 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 1:15; Zephaniah 1:7,8,14,18, 2:2,3; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi 4:5; Acts 2:20; 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2 Corinthians 1:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Peter 3:10 KJB], is a direct reference to the “thousand years” [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7 KJB, see also Isaiah 24:22 KJB, “many days”], which is the final “day”, the 7th day – the great Sabbath, of the great week “with the Lord” [2 Peter 3:8 KJB].

The second Advent of Jesus Christ, wherein the “saints” are “caught up together … in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air” [1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Revelation 20:1-6 KJB] is but the beginning of the “thousand years” or “the day of the Lord”, while the third Advent of Jesus Christ [Zechariah 14:1-21; Revelation 20:7-10 KJB] is the ending of the “thousand years” or “the day of the Lord”, after which the finally impenitent shall be utterly destroyed in the second death, and finally the “New Heavens” and the “New Earth” are recreated [Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:1 KJB].

Revelation 19-22 KJB, is parallel to Isaiah 24 KJB, and so also connected to Leviticus 16:1-34, 23:26-32 KJB (chart follows, which I cannot easily reproduce here, since it is an sort of excel format).

Revelation 5:10 KJB - And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.​

Read carefully these texts, and we shall see that the “saints” mentioned in them, are not in Heaven, but are alive upon this present earth, sending their prayers and affirmations Heavenward, and that the 24 Elders and the 4 Beasts [leaders, and the beings of the nations of the unfallen worlds, 4 being the universal number, meaning all, and beast as a nation/kingdom/dominion: see Revelation 4:4,10, 5:5,6,8,11,14, 7:11,13, 11:16, 14:3, 19:4, see also “ancients”: Isaiah 24:23 KJB & see Ezekiel 1:5,13,14,15,19, 3:13, 10:1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,15,16,18,19,20, 11:22; “four beasts”: Revelation 4:6,8, 5:6,8,11,14, 6:1,6, 7:11, 14:3, 15:7, 19:4 KJB], take up a work in the Heavenly Sanctuary, bearing the prayers of the living “saints” upon the earth to God, under the direction of the Great High Priest Jesus.

The “reign upon the earth” comes after 1,000 years [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7 KJB], for the “saints” must be both resurrected and/or translated, glorified, and brought back to Heaven [John 14:1-4; 1 Thessalonians 4:17, etc KJB] at the Second Advent and First Great Resurrection, to “reign” in Heaven, for 1,000 years [Revelation 20:4,5a,6 KJB] going over the record books of the lost [1 Corinthians 6:2,3 KJB]:

[1] The “1000 years” reign “in Heaven” [Psalms 50:5; Daniel 7:22; Matthew 5:3,8,10,12, 6:20, 13:30, 24:31; Mark 10:21, 13:27; Luke 6:23, 18:22, 23:43; John 14:2-3, 17:24; Colossians 1:5; Hebrews 10:34; 1 Peter 1:4; Revelation 7:9, 14:3, 19:1 KJB; “Paradise”, Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7 KJB] with Christ Jesus [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; Revelation 20:6 KJB] and​

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[2] The “reign on earth” [“made new”, not this sin polluted Earth; 2 Peter 3:13; Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; Revelation 21:1 KJB] that lasts “forever and ever” [Revelation 5:10 KJB; “meek inherit earth” [“made new”, not this sin polluted Earth], Psalms 37:9,11,34; Proverbs 11:31; Isaiah 25:8, 65:21; Daniel 7:27; Matthew 5:5; Revelation 5:10 KJB].​

As for the word "bottomless pit", as found in the GNT TR of Revelation 9:1,2,11, 11:7, 17:8, 20:1, it is the Koine Greek "αβυσσου" [abussou, or abyssou], in GNT TR of Revelation 20:3, it is again "αβυσσον" [abusson, or abysson], which in the transliterated English is the word "abyss", which according to the first use in Genesis, means the "deep", being in "darkness", and "without form and void [empty of/having no life]", thus is associated with a dark chaotic wilderness/desert [water or earth], symbolic of death/no life.

Back to the OP please.

 

[memyselfi]

I have thought of heaven. I hope to see my dad there and give him a hug and Jesus a hug. I don't know if my dad is ever able to see me from above. I don't know how that works.

I personally do not believe that the great croud of witness can see us on Earth.... those that have moved home, because I do believe there is NO sadness or sorrow in heaven. But when we get to heaven we will know them, and us and rejoice in the Lord.

 

[EvangAlived]

I have thought of heaven. I hope to see my dad there and give him a hug and Jesus a hug. I don't know if my dad is ever able to see me from above. I don't know how that works.

Here is how (in brief):

Is Heaven For Real?:
https://www.isheavenforreal.com/

Truth about Death:
http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-truth-about-death/id3509450

Also see Truth about Hell/hellfire (if interested, I know that this thread is about heaven, and began with that information):
http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-truth-about-hell-hellfire/id3509461

Also see Ghost Truth:
https://www.ghosttruth.com/

 

[EvangAlived]

the great croud of witness

Not 'men', but angels, always associated with "clouds", which is why even Abel had such witnesses. There is more if needful.

Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

 

[CherieR]

I personally do not believe that the great croud of witness can see us on Earth.... those that have moved home, because I do believe there is NO sadness or sorrow in heaven. But when we get to heaven we will know them, and us and rejoice in the Lord.

True about no sadness in heaven, but that does not rule out the possibly of your loved ones in heaven seeing the happy times in your life. If I ever get married and if God wills it, maybe my dad will get to see it.

 

[Deade]

This really isn't the thread for this, is it? I was attempting to be helpful on OP, and I can also demonstrate the veractiy of everything in those two links from scripture (KJB) which is what I offered before them both.

You are mistaken, and combined two passages which are not speaking of the same timeframe,

Here are the texts of Revelation 20:1-6 KJB cited:

Revelation 20:1 KJB - And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.​

​

Revelation 20:2 KJB - And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,​

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Revelation 20:3 KJB - And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.​

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Revelation 20:4 KJB - And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.​

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Revelation 20:5 KJB - But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.​

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Revelation 20:6 KJB - Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.​

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Revelation 20:7 KJB - And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,​

Please notice, that in these texts [Revelation 20:1-6 KJB], there is no where written that either Jesus, or the “saints” (or “satan” for that matter), shall “reign upon the earth” for 1,000 years, but simply says [vss. 4,6] that Jesus and the saints reigned “a thousand years”. The location of this 1,000 reign is nowhere stated to be “upon the earth” in these, or any passages of scripture [KJB]. One should very carefully look for themselves. It also is very clearly written that “satan” himself was not reigning during this “thousand years”, but is “bound” and “shut … up” with a “seal” placed “upon him”.

The phrase “the day of the Lord” [Isaiah 2:12, 13:6,9, 34:8; Jeremiah 46:10; Lamentations 2:22; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31, 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 1:15; Zephaniah 1:7,8,14,18, 2:2,3; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi 4:5; Acts 2:20; 1 Corinthians 5:5; 2 Corinthians 1:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Peter 3:10 KJB], is a direct reference to the “thousand years” [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7 KJB, see also Isaiah 24:22 KJB, “many days”], which is the final “day”, the 7th day – the great Sabbath, of the great week “with the Lord” [2 Peter 3:8 KJB].

The second Advent of Jesus Christ, wherein the “saints” are “caught up together … in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air” [1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Revelation 20:1-6 KJB] is but the beginning of the “thousand years” or “the day of the Lord”, while the third Advent of Jesus Christ [Zechariah 14:1-21; Revelation 20:7-10 KJB] is the ending of the “thousand years” or “the day of the Lord”, after which the finally impenitent shall be utterly destroyed in the second death, and finally the “New Heavens” and the “New Earth” are recreated [Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:1 KJB].

Revelation 19-22 KJB, is parallel to Isaiah 24 KJB, and so also connected to Leviticus 16:1-34, 23:26-32 KJB (chart follows, which I cannot easily reproduce here, since it is an sort of excel format).

Revelation 5:10 KJB - And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.​

Read carefully these texts, and we shall see that the “saints” mentioned in them, are not in Heaven, but are alive upon this present earth, sending their prayers and affirmations Heavenward, and that the 24 Elders and the 4 Beasts [leaders, and the beings of the nations of the unfallen worlds, 4 being the universal number, meaning all, and beast as a nation/kingdom/dominion: see Revelation 4:4,10, 5:5,6,8,11,14, 7:11,13, 11:16, 14:3, 19:4, see also “ancients”: Isaiah 24:23 KJB & see Ezekiel 1:5,13,14,15,19, 3:13, 10:1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,15,16,18,19,20, 11:22; “four beasts”: Revelation 4:6,8, 5:6,8,11,14, 6:1,6, 7:11, 14:3, 15:7, 19:4 KJB], take up a work in the Heavenly Sanctuary, bearing the prayers of the living “saints” upon the earth to God, under the direction of the Great High Priest Jesus.

The “reign upon the earth” comes after 1,000 years [Revelation 20:2,3,4,5,6,7 KJB], for the “saints” must be both resurrected and/or translated, glorified, and brought back to Heaven [John 14:1-4; 1 Thessalonians 4:17, etc KJB] at the Second Advent and First Great Resurrection, to “reign” in Heaven, for 1,000 years [Revelation 20:4,5a,6 KJB] going over the record books of the lost [1 Corinthians 6:2,3 KJB]:

[1] The “1000 years” reign “in Heaven” [Psalms 50:5; Daniel 7:22; Matthew 5:3,8,10,12, 6:20, 13:30, 24:31; Mark 10:21, 13:27; Luke 6:23, 18:22, 23:43; John 14:2-3, 17:24; Colossians 1:5; Hebrews 10:34; 1 Peter 1:4; Revelation 7:9, 14:3, 19:1 KJB; “Paradise”, Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7 KJB] with Christ Jesus [1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; Revelation 20:6 KJB] and​

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[2] The “reign on earth” [“made new”, not this sin polluted Earth; 2 Peter 3:13; Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; Revelation 21:1 KJB] that lasts “forever and ever” [Revelation 5:10 KJB; “meek inherit earth” [“made new”, not this sin polluted Earth], Psalms 37:9,11,34; Proverbs 11:31; Isaiah 25:8, 65:21; Daniel 7:27; Matthew 5:5; Revelation 5:10 KJB].​

As for the word "bottomless pit", as found in the GNT TR of Revelation 9:1,2,11, 11:7, 17:8, 20:1, it is the Koine Greek "αβυσσου" [abussou, or abyssou], in GNT TR of Revelation 20:3, it is again "αβυσσον" [abusson, or abysson], which in the transliterated English is the word "abyss", which according to the first use in Genesis, means the "deep", being in "darkness", and "without form and void [empty of/having no life]", thus is associated with a dark chaotic wilderness/desert [water or earth], symbolic of death/no life.

Back to the OP please.

You don't have to educate me about Mrs. White's dogma. I already know all about it. We can at least agree that nobody is in heaven yet. Oh! Wait! Your leaders think Enoch and Elijah or was it Moses already in heaven. Well, they do teach you that the rest of us sleep until that first resurrection. So are we speculating on what heaven is like for the sleeping? That is the OP, right? Or are you proselytizing here?

 

[deardean2]

My second wife had a NDE and she feels she talked with God. She told Him she wanted to watch her baby grow up. She did not know where she was at but next thing she was back in her body, alive. We both believe scripture tells us that the dead are asleep. God allowed her that vision for a purpose, but He knew He wasn't keeping her at that time. Hence, just a vision. She says it is just as real as anything else in her life.

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I can't imagine why anyone would lie about such an experience. To try to say that everyone should have the same experience is very questionable. My grandmother had an operation on her throat and was dead for 7 minutres during which time she went to heaven. She was dranw through a tunnel to a bright light and met Jesus. She also met her mother and father and was shocked by how young they looked and that they were naked. She said she saw them in a beautiful garden where the grass and flowers and trees and even the water glowed with an inner light. Very beautiful and nothing like earth. I am sure she was not lying.

 

[memyselfi]

True about no sadness in heaven, but that does not rule out the possibly of your loved ones in heaven seeing the happy times in your life. If I ever get married and if God wills it, maybe my dad will get to see it.

That is fair. Could be!?!

 

[EvangAlived]

We can at least agree that nobody is in heaven yet.

Among men, Enoch, Moses, Elijah, the firstfruits and Jesus entered Heaven:

[When will the “Heavens” be no more? At the Second Advent: Isaiah 33:4, 65:17, 66:22; Matthew 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 21:33; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 6:14 KJB Therefore, how long must men who die, remain in the grave, in the dust of the earth, in sleep? Until then. There are only 5 exceptions in all of scripture [KJB] that were either directly translated without seeing death, or permanently resurrected, never to taste death again:

[1] Enoch, who never saw death but was translated directly and glorified [Genesis 5:24; Hebrews 11:5 KJB],​

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[2] Elijah, who never saw death but was translated, going up in a fiery chariot and glorified, appearing in the New Testament with resurrected Moses, in “glory” [2 Kings 2:1,11; Matthew 17:3; Mark 9:4; Luke 9:30,31 KJB],​

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[3] Moses, who died, was buried by Jesus, and resurrected by Jesus/Michael and taken to Heaven, after seen alive in the New Testament, in “glory” [Matthew 17; Mark 9; Luke 9; 2 Peter 1:16; Romans 5:14 KJB],​

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[4] the firstfruits/wavesheaf specially resurrected martyrs who were buried around Jerusalem at Jesus' own resurrection, and taken back to Heaven with Him in triumph [Isaiah 26:19; Matthew 27:52,53; Ephesians 4:8; Psalms 68:18; KJB]:​

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Christ Jesus did not lead “captivity captive” [the “firstfruits” 1 Corinthians 15:20,23 KJB, the “wavesheaf” Leviticus 23:10-12 KJB; see Matthew 27:52-53 KJB] until His own Resurrection, “the third day” [Luke 24:21 KJB],​

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“Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.” Ephesians 4:8​

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[Special Resurrection at Jesus own Resurrection, see also Psalms 68:18; Isaiah 26:19; Matthew 27:52,53 KJB]​

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But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 1 Corinthians 15:20​

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But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:23, and​

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[5] Jesus Himself, having died, was buried and rose again and ascended in a glorified body into Heaven [Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; John 20:1-31, Acts 1, etc. KJB]​

Consider: Rest/Sleep:

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[sleep, asleep, sleepeth] Deuteronomy 31:16; 2 Samuel 7:12; Job 3:13, 7:21, 14:12; 1 Kings 1:21, 2:10, 11:21,43, 14:20,31, 15:8,24, 16:6,28, 22:40,50; 2 Kings 8:24, 10:35, 13:9,13, 14:16,22,29, 15:7,22,38, 16:20, 20:21, 21:18, 24:6; 2 Chronicles 9:31, 12:16, 14:1, 16:13, 21:1, 26:2,23, 27:9, 28:27, 32:33, 33:20; Job 14:12; Psalms 13:3; Matthew 27:52; John 11:11-13; Acts 7:60, 13:36; 1 Corinthians 15:6,18,20,51; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-15; 2 Peter 3:4; [awake] Job 14:12; Psalms 17:15; Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12:2; John 11:11-13; [grave/bed] Job 17:13; Psalms 139:8; Luke 17:34; [fathers and prophets are dead] John 6:49,58, 8:52,53; Acts 2:29,34, 13:36; Hebrews 11:4,13,16,40]​

Two have been directly translated without seeing death, and a third group is coming:

[01] Enoch – Genesis 5:24; Hebrews 11:5 KJB​

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[02] Elijah – 2 Kings 2:1-23 KJB​

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[03] Those saints alive at the 2nd Advent – 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 KJB​

There are many resurrections in the Bible, but of those that have taken place, only a few have not died again and were taken to Heaven:

[01] Elijah raises the Widow of Zarephath's Son – 1 Kings 17:17-24 KJB​

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[02] Elijah raises the son of the Shunamite Woman – 2 Kings 4:18-37 KJB​

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[03] A man and Elisha's Bones – 2 Kings 13:20-21 KJB​

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[04] The Valley of Bones, the Resurrected Army – Ezekiel 37:1-14 KJB​

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[05] Jesus raises the Widow of Nain's Son – Luke 7:11-17 KJB​

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[06] Jesus raises Jairus's Daughter – Matthew 9:18,19,23-26; Mark 5:22-24,35-43; Luke 8:41-42,49-56 KJB​

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[07] Jesus raises Lazarus – John 11:1-47 KJB​

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[08] Peter raises Tabitha [Dorcas] – Acts 9:36-42 KJB​

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[09] Paul raises Eutychus – Acts 20:9-12 KJB​

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[10] Moses – Matthew 16:28, 17:1-12; Mark 9:1-13; Luke 9:27-36; John 11:25; 2 Peter 1:16-18; Romans 5:14; Jude 1:9 KJB​

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[11] Select Group around the locality of Jerusalem – Psalms 68:18; Isaiah 26:19; Matthew 27:52,53; Ephesians 4:8 KJB​

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[12] The Two Witnesses (not actually persons, but symbolic of Law (Moses) and Prophets (Elijah)) - Revelation 11:3-12; Romans 3:21​

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[13] Jesus' Resurrection – Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; John 20:1-31; 1 Corinthians 15:20,23 &c KJB​

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(I know I am forgetting one, but oh well.)​

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*Side Note: Some have thought Paul to be resurrected after his stoning, but that is a misreading of the text, he had not died, but suffered greatly:​

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Acts 14:19 KJB - And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead.​

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There will also be a Special resurrection and a First Great resurrection that saints may enter Heaven, in a time to come:

[00] Special Resurrection – Daniel 12:2,12; Matthew 26:64; Mark 14:62; Revelation 1:7, 14:13 &c KJB​

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[01] First Great Resurrection – 1 Samuel 2:6; Job 14:12-14, 19:26; Hosea 13:14; Matthew 22:31; Mark 12:18,23,25; Luke 14:14, 20:35,36; John 5:29a, 6:25,28,29,39,40,44,54, 11:24,25; Acts 4:2, 17:31,32, 23:6, 24:15a,21; Romans 6:5,8, 8:11; 1 Corinthians 15:12,13,16,20,21,23,29,32,35,42,43,52-55; Philippians 3:10,11; Colossians 3:3; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 2 Timothy 2:18, 4:1; Hebrews 6:2, 11:35; Revelation 20:5b,6; [All the Holy "Clouds" of Angels [the “reapers”] with Him] Psalms 68:17, 104:3; Isaiah 66:15; Matthew 13:39,49, 16:27, 24:30, 25:31,51, 26:64; Mark 8:38, 13:27; Luke 9:26, 21:27; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Thessalonians 3:13, 4:16-17; Hebrews 1:7; Revelation 1:7, 12:7 KJB​

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There will even be a resurrection of the wicked to come, and they shall not enter Heaven:

[02] The Second Great Resurrection, Damned, Condemnation, Wicked – John 5:29b; Acts 17:31, 24:15b; Revelation 20:5a; KJB​

 

[memyselfi]

I can't imagine why anyone would lie about such an experience. To try to say that everyone should have the same experience is very questionable. My grandmother had an operation on her throat and was dead for 7 minutres during which time she went to heaven. She was dranw through a tunnel to a bright light and met Jesus. She also met her mother and father and was shocked by how young they looked and that they were naked. She said she saw them in a beautiful garden where the grass and flowers and trees and even the water glowed with an inner light. Very beautiful and nothing like earth. I am sure she was not lying.

I think that is beautiful, and I'm sure Granny was not lying.

A famous or infamous, preacher, however you look at him, told about a time he spent in heaven. He made a grand picture then he said families were together... husbands, wives, children. Direct contradiction of what the Lord said when He said there is no husband and wife in heaven. So if one part is not true none of it can be true.