Many did not separate the ceremonial laws from the moral laws because they did not find a single verse in Scripture supporting, authorizing, or directing such separation. Instead, they found Galatians 3:10 "Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the Law, to perform them."
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I would mention again some do not recognize the two kinds of law as to there function . Both moral and ceremonial. Making them as if it was all one is a tradition that makes the word of God without effect .
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
No man is justified by shadows of the good things to come, the eternal not seen Shadows simply provide a temporal shade from the heat of the fiery judgment of God. And getting angry does not help aid. Jonas can witness to that.
Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry? So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.And the Lord God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd. But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death.Jonas 4:4-9
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
No man is justified by shadows of the good things to come, the eternal not seen Shadows simply provide a temporal shade from the heat of the fiery judgment of God. And getting angry does not help aid. Jonas can witness to that.
Then said the Lord, Doest thou well to be angry? So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.And the Lord God prepared a gourd, and made it to come up over Jonah, that it might be a shadow over his head, to deliver him from his grief. So Jonah was exceeding glad of the gourd. But God prepared a worm when the morning rose the next day, and it smote the gourd that it withered.And it came to pass, when the sun did arise, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat upon the head of Jonah, that he fainted, and wished in himself to die, and said, It is better for me to die than to live.And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death.Jonas 4:4-9
Yes, it is what the oral traditions of men do, justify oneself as if the kingdom of God was of this temporal world seen. (no faith)
In that way no man can serve two teaching masters. Love the one hate the other or vice versa
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
In that way no man can serve two teaching masters. Love the one hate the other or vice versa
Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
That is what was required of the Gentiles that carried over from the Old Testament, and the moral laws, laws of love.
But Paul said we do not void out the law through faith, but we establish the law, and the law is spiritual, holy, just, and good, the moral laws, laws of love.
Which the ten commandments are spiritual laws, for it is love towards God, and people, which they were written by the finger of God so they are iron clad, and must always be obeyed.
Which a Spirit led life is not under the law, which if a person hates sin, and does not want sin, by the Spirit they can abstain from sin, so the law cannot touch them for prosecution.
If people hold unto sin the Spirit will not lead them, for they do not hate sin, and want sin.
And people should stop being relaxed concerning faith, for there is a condition concerning faith, and the Bible says it is the work of faith, for everything we do, and think, is a work, which if we think lust it is the same as doing the lust.
Faith is a work according to the Bible.
Also faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen, so to have faith means you comply with the operation of God, and His kingdom, which He said My will be done on earth as it is in heaven, which the angels are not up there sinning, and the ones that did are not their anymore.
Also out of faith, hope, and charity, love in action, charity is the greatest.
And faith works by love, and we are saved by grace through faith, so no love, no faith, no grace.
But the definition of charity in the Bible is charity does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth to hate sin, and not wants sin, and is not selfish, and not arrogant, and not unkind, and only goes by their needs, and not by the wants, and helps the poor and needy.
And love is the fulfilling of the law.
Many people say we only have to have faith, but then say they cannot abstain from sin, and they sin daily, even though the Bible says by the Spirit they can abstain from sin, and sin does not affect their relationship with God.
If they say they cannot abstain from sin then they admit from their own mouth that they do indeed sin, and hold unto sin, for they say they cannot cease from sin.
But then they did not fulfill the law as Paul said, and love is the fulfilling of the law, and charity is greater than faith, which then because they are not led of the Spirit they are under the law in which the law can prosecute them.
They say faith alone, but then charity is greater than faith, which if they say they cannot cease from sin then it testifies they do not have love, for love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity, so then faith cannot apply in their life.
These people are relaxed concerning Christianity wanting to enjoy the world, and then want an excuse for their sin, and looking at the scriptures from a perspective that caters to the flesh.
The Lord knows them that are His having this seal, which this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
But some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, and enjoy sins thinking they are still right with God, which they are not led of the Spirit.
And then have an excuse it is only faith, and they cannot abstain from sins.
Some even say they do not have to have obedience, when Jesus said if you do not obey Him you do not love Him, and told the disciples to teach all things He commanded them, and all thoughts we have are to be to the obedience of Christ, and God said to obey is better than sacrifice.
And some say God chooses who will be saved and not saved without their choice, but God says He wants all people to be saved, and the Spirit and bride say anybody can have that salvation, and Jesus lights every person born in this world.
But like the Bible says they are ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, and points out their sins.
Only faith, only faith, they cry, but then think it is alright to not be compatible with God and His ways, and the kingdom of God's ways.
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
That is what was required of the Gentiles that carried over from the Old Testament, and the moral laws, laws of love.
But Paul said we do not void out the law through faith, but we establish the law, and the law is spiritual, holy, just, and good, the moral laws, laws of love.
Which the ten commandments are spiritual laws, for it is love towards God, and people, which they were written by the finger of God so they are iron clad, and must always be obeyed.
Which a Spirit led life is not under the law, which if a person hates sin, and does not want sin, by the Spirit they can abstain from sin, so the law cannot touch them for prosecution.
If people hold unto sin the Spirit will not lead them, for they do not hate sin, and want sin.
And people should stop being relaxed concerning faith, for there is a condition concerning faith, and the Bible says it is the work of faith, for everything we do, and think, is a work, which if we think lust it is the same as doing the lust.
Faith is a work according to the Bible.
Also faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen, so to have faith means you comply with the operation of God, and His kingdom, which He said My will be done on earth as it is in heaven, which the angels are not up there sinning, and the ones that did are not their anymore.
Also out of faith, hope, and charity, love in action, charity is the greatest.
And faith works by love, and we are saved by grace through faith, so no love, no faith, no grace.
But the definition of charity in the Bible is charity does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth to hate sin, and not wants sin, and is not selfish, and not arrogant, and not unkind, and only goes by their needs, and not by the wants, and helps the poor and needy.
And love is the fulfilling of the law.
Many people say we only have to have faith, but then say they cannot abstain from sin, and they sin daily, even though the Bible says by the Spirit they can abstain from sin, and sin does not affect their relationship with God.
If they say they cannot abstain from sin then they admit from their own mouth that they do indeed sin, and hold unto sin, for they say they cannot cease from sin.
But then they did not fulfill the law as Paul said, and love is the fulfilling of the law, and charity is greater than faith, which then because they are not led of the Spirit they are under the law in which the law can prosecute them.
They say faith alone, but then charity is greater than faith, which if they say they cannot cease from sin then it testifies they do not have love, for love does not think an evil thought, and does not rejoice in iniquity, so then faith cannot apply in their life.
These people are relaxed concerning Christianity wanting to enjoy the world, and then want an excuse for their sin, and looking at the scriptures from a perspective that caters to the flesh.
The Lord knows them that are His having this seal, which this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
But some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, and enjoy sins thinking they are still right with God, which they are not led of the Spirit.
And then have an excuse it is only faith, and they cannot abstain from sins.
Some even say they do not have to have obedience, when Jesus said if you do not obey Him you do not love Him, and told the disciples to teach all things He commanded them, and all thoughts we have are to be to the obedience of Christ, and God said to obey is better than sacrifice.
And some say God chooses who will be saved and not saved without their choice, but God says He wants all people to be saved, and the Spirit and bride say anybody can have that salvation, and Jesus lights every person born in this world.
But like the Bible says they are ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, and points out their sins.
Only faith, only faith, they cry, but then think it is alright to not be compatible with God and His ways, and the kingdom of God's ways.
Had an interesting discussion with my father and he gave me some historical context (about the four specific laws and why the Holy Spirit saw that it was good). These new converts (gentiles) were still going to temples (for pagan gods) and committing sin. From my memory, he told me that each of the four laws matched certain practices that were known for the area.
People would make offerings at the temple and sleep with temple prostitutes (or priestesses, whatever they're called). Hence, fornication being one of the laws. Then they would eat food sacrificed to idols, because there would be a surplus and they'd sell it in the market and so they would be eating common food. Hence, do not eat things strangled or sacrifices offered to idols. Of course, then this also covers the fourth law about not eating blood because the animal wasn't drained of its blood, so it would congeal inside the animal.
Its an odd coincidence that each of the laws given to the gentiles were identical in addressing different aspects of pagan worship and commerce.
People would make offerings at the temple and sleep with temple prostitutes (or priestesses, whatever they're called). Hence, fornication being one of the laws. Then they would eat food sacrificed to idols, because there would be a surplus and they'd sell it in the market and so they would be eating common food. Hence, do not eat things strangled or sacrifices offered to idols. Of course, then this also covers the fourth law about not eating blood because the animal wasn't drained of its blood, so it would congeal inside the animal.
Its an odd coincidence that each of the laws given to the gentiles were identical in addressing different aspects of pagan worship and commerce.
I will grant you that, and concede, verse 15:24 did give me pause for a second when I saw certain in the sentence. I kind of just brushed over it, but thank you for bringing it back to my attention. It does seem that it was still addressing the "certain men which came down from Judea." Thanks Yahshua.
I do not see, however, an endorsement for the gentiles to follow all aspects of the Torah (in context, such as circumcision which they didn't even say to do). They (apostles and elders) only brought up the four laws (for specific reasons, even cultural reasons). It was a very, how do they say, rhema word. Also known as a "now word", meaning it was timely. It addressed a current problem amongst gentiles at the time. An equivalent might be a person converting to Christianity who gets drunk, does drugs, and parties all the time. They, as the gentiles then, would need to be taught that this is sin, it is wrong. Such actions are not righteous.
Acts 15 doesn't say to get circumcised for the sake of salvation, but neither does it say to do it out of obedience. In fact, it isn't even brought up in the laws that they prescribed to the new converts.
Thanks for the discussion so far.
I do not see, however, an endorsement for the gentiles to follow all aspects of the Torah (in context, such as circumcision which they didn't even say to do). They (apostles and elders) only brought up the four laws (for specific reasons, even cultural reasons). It was a very, how do they say, rhema word. Also known as a "now word", meaning it was timely. It addressed a current problem amongst gentiles at the time. An equivalent might be a person converting to Christianity who gets drunk, does drugs, and parties all the time. They, as the gentiles then, would need to be taught that this is sin, it is wrong. Such actions are not righteous.
Acts 15 doesn't say to get circumcised for the sake of salvation, but neither does it say to do it out of obedience. In fact, it isn't even brought up in the laws that they prescribed to the new converts.
Thanks for the discussion so far.
No, you are right, they wouldn't even know about Noah. That is why it is written.
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
In this way the Apostles told the Gentiles to do exactly what the Christ told them.
Matt. 23:
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, (This would include anyone listening, yes?)
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
In this way they would hear from Moses, and by extension God, directly, and not have the Word of God filtered through a corrupt Mainstream Religion.
Matt. 15:
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
So it would appear that the Apostles were actually directing the New Converts toward God's Laws, as the Messiah did, and away from a corrupt Mainstream religion which had already killed their own Savior. in the name of God.
Great topic Jahshua,
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
In this way the Apostles told the Gentiles to do exactly what the Christ told them.
Matt. 23:
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, (This would include anyone listening, yes?)
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
In this way they would hear from Moses, and by extension God, directly, and not have the Word of God filtered through a corrupt Mainstream Religion.
Matt. 15:
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
So it would appear that the Apostles were actually directing the New Converts toward God's Laws, as the Messiah did, and away from a corrupt Mainstream religion which had already killed their own Savior. in the name of God.
Great topic Jahshua,
1 Cor 7:18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
Paul uses the word Circumcision also to describe the Mainstream Religion of his time. In this context he is doing just that.
If you are part of the Mainstream Religion of the time, don't leave it. It you are not part of the Mainstream Religion of that time, don't join it.
If you preach that this is only speaking of physical Circumcision, then you are ignoring what is being said. How can a physically circumcised man become "uncircumcised"? He can't, certainly in that time. Paul is speaking to something else.
So if you consider more than just the one verse, it appears that Paul is saying.
19 Circumcision is nothing,(Being a member of the Jews religion) and uncircumcision (Not being a member of the Jews religion) is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. (Nothing to do with cutting flesh off a private part.)
23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
So Paul is actually saying the opposite of you here. Religion doesn't matter. What matters is "keeping the Laws of God".
Paul uses the word Circumcision also to describe the Mainstream Religion of his time. In this context he is doing just that.
If you are part of the Mainstream Religion of the time, don't leave it. It you are not part of the Mainstream Religion of that time, don't join it.
If you preach that this is only speaking of physical Circumcision, then you are ignoring what is being said. How can a physically circumcised man become "uncircumcised"? He can't, certainly in that time. Paul is speaking to something else.
So if you consider more than just the one verse, it appears that Paul is saying.
19 Circumcision is nothing,(Being a member of the Jews religion) and uncircumcision (Not being a member of the Jews religion) is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. (Nothing to do with cutting flesh off a private part.)
23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
So Paul is actually saying the opposite of you here. Religion doesn't matter. What matters is "keeping the Laws of God".
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Moses never created even one Law. Not a single one. EVERY LAW he spoke of was the Law of God.
Your preaching in this manner doesn't seem to make any sense.
God's Laws transcends God's Laws?
Lev. 19:
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God
This is the "Law of Moses" as you call it. How do the 10 commandments "Transcend" the very Laws Romans 13 is speaking to?
Your preaching in this manner doesn't seem to make any sense.
God's Laws transcends God's Laws?
Lev. 19:
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God
This is the "Law of Moses" as you call it. How do the 10 commandments "Transcend" the very Laws Romans 13 is speaking to?
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It's simple my friend. And it is written for our admonition in the very beginning.
Gen. 3:
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
First the deceiver must convince you that you are already saved. You are already set and nothing you or anyone does, says, not the scriptures, not God Almighty Himself can change this.
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Next, the deceive must convince you that God's Instructions are against you. that they make you "Blind", they are a burden, a Yoke. That God created them to keep you in slavery, because He is an unjust God. But if you listen to the deceiver, he will "free" you from this unjust God with His unjust Laws designed to keep you blind. All you have to do is reject God's Instructions.
In the day you reject them, then your eyes will be opened.
Remember my friend, we are not fighting against flesh and blood, but powers of the air. The great deceiver is our enemy. And it has had centuries to hone it's deception. It uses God's Word's. It is disguised as a minister of righteousness, and the Path it promotes has "many" people on it.
But we are given the Armor to protect us from the "wiles of the devil". All we have to do is "Believe" Him enough to put it on.
Eph. 6:
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Our mind)
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, (God's instruction is not against us) and having on the breastplate of righteousness; (Walk even as He walked)
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; (With God)
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, (Believe what He Says) wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: (Every Word which proceeds from the mouth of God)
You keep up the good work brother
Gen. 3:
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
First the deceiver must convince you that you are already saved. You are already set and nothing you or anyone does, says, not the scriptures, not God Almighty Himself can change this.
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Next, the deceive must convince you that God's Instructions are against you. that they make you "Blind", they are a burden, a Yoke. That God created them to keep you in slavery, because He is an unjust God. But if you listen to the deceiver, he will "free" you from this unjust God with His unjust Laws designed to keep you blind. All you have to do is reject God's Instructions.
In the day you reject them, then your eyes will be opened.
Remember my friend, we are not fighting against flesh and blood, but powers of the air. The great deceiver is our enemy. And it has had centuries to hone it's deception. It uses God's Word's. It is disguised as a minister of righteousness, and the Path it promotes has "many" people on it.
But we are given the Armor to protect us from the "wiles of the devil". All we have to do is "Believe" Him enough to put it on.
Eph. 6:
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Our mind)
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, (God's instruction is not against us) and having on the breastplate of righteousness; (Walk even as He walked)
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; (With God)
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, (Believe what He Says) wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: (Every Word which proceeds from the mouth of God)
You keep up the good work brother
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the first words of Leviticus 13 are " the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron.
in Luke 5, after healing the leper, Jesus said " go show yourself to the priest, as Moses commanded, as a testimony to them "
Leviticus 13 is the instructions of how to handle leporacy.
so, did God tell Moses what to do, you know, a command, ? then why did Jesus, who according to your oneness junk, would have been the one who told Moses this, say " as Moses commanded?
I know why. let's see if you do.
the first words of Leviticus 13 are " the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron.
in Luke 5, after healing the leper, Jesus said " go show yourself to the priest, as Moses commanded, as a testimony to them "
Leviticus 13 is the instructions of how to handle leporacy.
so, did God tell Moses what to do, you know, a command, ? then why did Jesus, who according to your oneness junk, would have been the one who told Moses this, say " as Moses commanded?
I know why. let's see if you do.
Is. 40:
7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
1 Pet. 1:
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
I don't believe rejecting whatever parts of God's Words that fit this religion or that religion is an accurate definition of Faith. God's Word is there, it is eternal, who am I to judge it since I am here today, gone tomorrow.
Man's religious works are "SEEN", while the cleansing Blood of the Christ is not seen. The Messiah said "Let your light shine before men". What is the light? Is it not the Word of God? What is Rejection of God's Laws that don't fit this religious tradition or that? Wouldn't that be darkness and not light. And if the light in us is darkness, how great is that darkness?
7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
1 Pet. 1:
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
I don't believe rejecting whatever parts of God's Words that fit this religion or that religion is an accurate definition of Faith. God's Word is there, it is eternal, who am I to judge it since I am here today, gone tomorrow.
Man's religious works are "SEEN", while the cleansing Blood of the Christ is not seen. The Messiah said "Let your light shine before men". What is the light? Is it not the Word of God? What is Rejection of God's Laws that don't fit this religious tradition or that? Wouldn't that be darkness and not light. And if the light in us is darkness, how great is that darkness?
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There are some who believe that God's Word last forever. Now this same God promised a "Change in the Priesthood" and called this change a "New Covenant" in Jer. 31.
There are "many" who come in Christ's name that preach the New Covenant is the destruction or annulment of the entire Law and Prophets, Including God's Commandments. But if you look at what the creator of the New covenant said, you will find this teaching is a deception.
Jer. 31:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Prior to "Those days" how did people receive God's Laws? Was it not through the Levitical Priesthood?
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Prior to "those days" how were the sins of the people atoned for? Was it not by "Works" of the Levitical Priesthood?
Heb. 7:
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, (New Covenant) there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
And what was this change? The destruction of God's Sabbaths? The elimination of God's Laws?
What does the Bible say the change of the law was?
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
So the "LAW" of the Priesthood, added 430 years after Abraham, said only Levites could assume the Priesthood. The Word which became Flesh was from the tribe of Judah. So the promise of the change of the Priesthood made of necessity a Change of the Priesthood laws which would allow others into the Priesthood.
So according to the Bible, what was obsolete was the old Priesthood with it's "Works of the Law" for the remission of sins (Animal sacrifice) that the Mainstream Preachers of Paul's time was still pushing on the Galatians.
How is it Yahshua was promoting the "old Covenant"?
There are "many" who come in Christ's name that preach the New Covenant is the destruction or annulment of the entire Law and Prophets, Including God's Commandments. But if you look at what the creator of the New covenant said, you will find this teaching is a deception.
Jer. 31:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Prior to "Those days" how did people receive God's Laws? Was it not through the Levitical Priesthood?
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Prior to "those days" how were the sins of the people atoned for? Was it not by "Works" of the Levitical Priesthood?
Heb. 7:
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, (New Covenant) there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
And what was this change? The destruction of God's Sabbaths? The elimination of God's Laws?
What does the Bible say the change of the law was?
13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
So the "LAW" of the Priesthood, added 430 years after Abraham, said only Levites could assume the Priesthood. The Word which became Flesh was from the tribe of Judah. So the promise of the change of the Priesthood made of necessity a Change of the Priesthood laws which would allow others into the Priesthood.
So according to the Bible, what was obsolete was the old Priesthood with it's "Works of the Law" for the remission of sins (Animal sacrifice) that the Mainstream Preachers of Paul's time was still pushing on the Galatians.
How is it Yahshua was promoting the "old Covenant"?
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While I don't agree with Garee, I do think the great God of Abraham made a distinction between sacrificial laws and moral laws.
1 sam. 15:
22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Ps. 51:
16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Hos. 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Ps. 40:
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
Ps. 51:
16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Therefore it seems perfectly in line with what seemed inevitable
"After those days" sayeth the Lord, I will make a "New Covenant". A Changed Priesthood built on better promises.
1 sam. 15:
22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
Ps. 51:
16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Hos. 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Ps. 40:
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
Ps. 51:
16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Therefore it seems perfectly in line with what seemed inevitable
"After those days" sayeth the Lord, I will make a "New Covenant". A Changed Priesthood built on better promises.
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Sure. God created a Priesthood in which only a Levite (Moses, Aaron and his sons) could partake. Part of this Priesthood contained specific "works of the Law" pertaining to the process used for cleansing a Leper.
The Messiah, our High Priest, cleansed this Leper with the authority He has been given by God as the New High Priest. He sent the healed Leper to the Mainstream Preachers of His time to show them He cleansed this guy without any of the "works of the Law" that God gave to the Levite Priests. This signifying that the New Covenant (Changed Priesthood) promised in Jer.31, "After those days" had come to pass.
Matt. 8:
2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
4 And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
He even remind them;
John 10:
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
The Messiah, our High Priest, cleansed this Leper with the authority He has been given by God as the New High Priest. He sent the healed Leper to the Mainstream Preachers of His time to show them He cleansed this guy without any of the "works of the Law" that God gave to the Levite Priests. This signifying that the New Covenant (Changed Priesthood) promised in Jer.31, "After those days" had come to pass.
Matt. 8:
2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
3 And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
4 And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
He even remind them;
John 10:
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
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I have quoted it.
No parable given from moral laws.
Two different reasons for keeping shadows. One in Exodus, the other in Deuteronomy.
For the law (cerimoinal )having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. Hebrews 10 ...
Colossians 2:16-18 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
No parable given from moral laws.
Two different reasons for keeping shadows. One in Exodus, the other in Deuteronomy.
For the law (cerimoinal )having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. Hebrews 10 ...
Colossians 2:16-18 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Hi with all due respect. I was not trying to say the word of God does not last forever. But was trying to show the difference between shadows(the temporal) of the good things to come and the unseen substance (the eternal) The law of faith
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinthians 4:18
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corinthians 4:18