SHOULD CELIBACY BE ENFORCED TO CHRISTIAN PREACHERS?

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Dino246 said:
You made a general assertion. The conclusion that consequence "x" occurs (not merely "occurred") as a direct result of that condition is based on a single entity (the Catholic "church"). You have overlooked a host of influencing factors.

In other words, one example doesn't prove your rule.
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More gay people who want to be in the ministry will gravitate toward the church that denounces heterosexual marriage than to the church that doesn't.
 
jameen said:
So celibacy is a choice of the preacher and not enforced by his superiors right non Catholics?

I don't disagree that Peter and a Christian bishop are married but the question is:

Should a married Christian becomes a bishop too even he started preaching as a single man then later married?

In my Church, you can be a bishop even you're married if YOU ENTERED THE PRIESTHOOD WHEN YOU'RE MARRIED ALREADY.

Single priests who became married are not allowed to hold parishes anymore and so becoming a bishop too.

Please answer what I highlighted in bold and underline and the better give Bible verses that you can become a leader or bishop of the Church if you started preaching as a single man and then later married.

I will soon contemplate your answers here.

I am seeking the Truth behind this issue because even I starts to doubt that this is a Godly doctrine.
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Please do not escape answering my question I quoted above thanks :
 
Ralph- said:
More gay people who want to be in the ministry will gravitate toward the church that denounces heterosexual marriage than to the church that doesn't.
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ALL churches should denounce homosexuality..it's a perverstion of the beauty of sex between a man and WOMAN as God intended..although homosexuality and beatiality were practiced in Jesus day as well...
 
garee said:
I would not say "Freudian slip" he sends two by two... or two working together as one.The image of God the Father and Son working together in perfect harmony.

Like with Moses to represent the father not seen, and Aaron in respect to the Son of man the prophet Jesus seen . "dynamic duel"

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Or David and Johnathon another dynamic duel. two working as one

17 And Jonathan caused David to swear again, because he loved him: for he loved him as he loved his own soul.Then Jonathan said to David, To morrow is the new moon: and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will be empty. And when thou hast stayed three days, then thou shalt go down quickly, and come to the place where thou didst hide thyself when the business was in hand, and shalt remain by the stone Ezel. And I will shoot three arrows on the side thereof, as though I shot at a mark.And, behold, I will send a lad, saying, Go, find out the arrows. If I expressly say unto the lad, Behold, the arrows are on this side of thee, take them; then come thou: for there is peace to thee, and no hurt; as the Lord liveth.1 Samuel 20:17-21
Another dynamic duel Debroah the prophetess and Barak.

Judges 4:9And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the Lord shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.

Martha and Mary two working together to accomplish one purpose

John 11:1-3 King James Version (KJV)Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.(It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.)Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.

Another dynamic duel

And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,Acts 14:11-14

Those who did walk by sight not receiving the spiritual understanding of the parable made men into gods in the likeness of men turning things upside down.

The true dynamic duel

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.John 6:45

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
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Garee, he was making fun of your spelling error. You meant to spell dual = two whatever. You consistently spelled duel = fight, battle. The Freudian slip suggests you subconsciously / covertly made it to define a relationship. Hahaha...

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jameen said:
Please do not escape answering my question I quoted above thanks :
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To answer your question..of COURSE he should keep preaching..if He is called by God to preach his marital status should have no bearing on it and most likely God will give him a woman that will SUPPORT encourage and be PART of his ministry as well! :)
 
Jewel5712 said:
To answer your question..of COURSE he should keep preaching..if He is called by God to preach his marital status should have no bearing on it and most likely God will give him a woman that will SUPPORT encourage and be PART of his ministry as well! :)
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You do realize you are trying to convert a Catholic, right?
Read his last signature line! :)
 
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Deade said:
You do realize you are trying to convert a Catholic, right? :)
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Catholic..Lutheren..doesn't matter denomination but whats biblically sound..I know it's hard for Catholics to decern between the traditions of the Catholic faith verses the NT relationship with Jesus Christ that puts away law n the traditions of the OT..
 
Ralph- said:
Paul does not address the matter of women elders/bishops. Why is that?
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Because there was no such thing in the first church.
Women served as apostles in the service Paul gave to the regions where he ministered.
Sin entered the world through one man. If men after that are qualified to preach redemption from sin, women are too. There is no sexual discrimination in the new testament teachings. There is no separation of race, ethnicity, or gender. We are all one in Christ.
 
Paul recommended for people to be single so all their time/effort/energy/etc is focused solely on ministry. it wasn't a requirement.
 
jameen said:
Is it Biblical to enforce celibacy to Christian preachers and those who married will not be preachers anymore? - pastors, ministers, priests what ever you call -

Because Paul said this:

1 Cor 11:1 Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ. (NKJV)

If Paul preached as a single like Christ, Christian preachers must do the same.

This is the reason why it is better to be single forever as Christian preacher.

1 Cor 7:32 But I want you to be without care. He who is unmarried cares for the things of the Lord—how he may please the Lord.
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No it's not Biblical - it's demonic:

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving
heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with
thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

1 Cor. 11:1 has nothing to do with Paul's singleness.
 
Ralph- said:
Of course they can preach. What they can't do is have pastoral authority over men. That's why Paul did not address the matter of a woman bishop/elder having a spouse.
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That's actually segregation due to gender. Which is not of Christ at all. Rather, it is a condition that God's grace can alleviate.
 
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