Zechariah 6:1-8, "6:1, "And I lifted up my eyes again, and looked and saw four chariots coming from between two mountains, and the mountains were mountains of bronze."6:2, "With the first chariot were red horses, and with the second chariot black horses,"6:3, "and with the third chariot white horses, and with the fourth chariot strong speckled horses."6:4, "So I responded and said to the messenger who was speaking to me, “What are these, my master?”"6:5, "And the messenger answered and said to me, “These are four spirits of the heavens, coming forth from presenting themselves before the Master of all the earth."6:6, "“The one with the black horses is going out to the land of the north, and the white ones have gone out after them, and the speckled ones have gone out to the land of the south.”"6:7, "And the strong ones went out, eager to go, to walk to and fro in the earth. And He said, “Go, walk to and fro in the earth.” So they walked to and fro in the earth."6:8, "And He called to me, and spoke to me, saying, “See, those who go toward the land of the north have quieted My Spirit in the land of the north.”
Rev 6:1&2 The white horseman,
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I dont think you took it that way but I don;t claim to know everything, I diligently study and pray and thank Yah for what hHe has shown me. I just want to be clear Im not some know it all.
What I see is the sin of Israel was not only rampant but they didnt even "blush" they chose their way without repentance, thus YHWH allowed their own actions to be measured back to them... this was fulfilled in the invasion of Israyl, in this instance particularly Babylon, because Isaiah's time was pre Babylonian captivity. All these things and more came upon rebellious Israel...
Isaiah 3:
15 “What do you mean by crushing My people and grinding the faces of the poor?” declares the Master, יהוה of hosts."
16 And יהוה says, “Because the daughters of Tsiyon are haughty, and walk with outstretched necks and seductive eyes, walking and mincing as they go, making a jingling with their feet,"
17 therefore יהוה shall smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Tsiyon, and יהוה expose their nakedness.”"
24 And it shall be: Instead of a sweet fragrance, a smell of decay; and instead of a belt, a rope; and instead of well-set hair, baldness; and instead of a festal robe, a girding of sackcloth; and branding instead of loveliness."
What I see is the sin of Israel was not only rampant but they didnt even "blush" they chose their way without repentance, thus YHWH allowed their own actions to be measured back to them... this was fulfilled in the invasion of Israyl, in this instance particularly Babylon, because Isaiah's time was pre Babylonian captivity. All these things and more came upon rebellious Israel...
Isaiah 3:
15 “What do you mean by crushing My people and grinding the faces of the poor?” declares the Master, יהוה of hosts."
16 And יהוה says, “Because the daughters of Tsiyon are haughty, and walk with outstretched necks and seductive eyes, walking and mincing as they go, making a jingling with their feet,"
17 therefore יהוה shall smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Tsiyon, and יהוה expose their nakedness.”"
24 And it shall be: Instead of a sweet fragrance, a smell of decay; and instead of a belt, a rope; and instead of well-set hair, baldness; and instead of a festal robe, a girding of sackcloth; and branding instead of loveliness."
Isaiah 6:8-13,8 And I heard the voice of יהוה, saying, “Whom do I send, and who would go for Us?” And I said, “Here am I! Send me.”"9 And He said, “Go, and you shall say to this people, ‘Hearing, you hear, but do not understand; and seeing, you see, but do not know.’"10 “Make the heart of this people fat, and their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and shall turn and be healed.”"11 Then I said, “יהוה, until when?” And He answered, “Until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant, and the houses are without a man, and the land is laid waste, a ruin,"12 and יהוה has removed men far away, and the forsaken places be many in the midst of the land."13 “But still, there is a tenth part in it, and it shall again be for a burning, like a terebinth tree and like an oak, whose stump remains when it is cut down. The set-apart seed is its stump!”"
I believe white horseman is the antichrist
Is not real Christ, because after the real Christ come, No more tribulation. Revelation 6
6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Revelation 6 tell, that after white horseman there Will be Red horse and Will be No peace.
When The real Jesus come, Will followed by peace.
The antichrist or fake Christ not from islam,
If you make fake money, you have to make It look like real money, look like Christ oN earth. Or vicar of Christ.
Is not real Christ, because after the real Christ come, No more tribulation. Revelation 6
6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Revelation 6 tell, that after white horseman there Will be Red horse and Will be No peace.
When The real Jesus come, Will followed by peace.
The antichrist or fake Christ not from islam,
If you make fake money, you have to make It look like real money, look like Christ oN earth. Or vicar of Christ.
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John hears the sound of thunder because of the hooves of the four horses...the white horse cannot be JESUS because of what he carries and what he does not carry......and the following horses do not fit coming after Christ comes on his white horse......many ascribe the white horse to the Anti-Christ or possibly the conquering of western civilization as both Alexander and Roman Caesars rode white horses...........we know the little horn will honor the god of forces and yet comes in peaceably "Daniel" and we also know that when they say peace and safety sudden destruction....the context of this is tied to the Parousia of Christ and our gathering....there are many things to ponder, consider and put together to comes to a solid factual conclusion......!
We would then disagree on this, as I believe that the 1st seal rider white horse is symbolic representing the antichrist. He is a counterfeit of the rider on the white horse in Rev.19:11-21.
Also, the question by the disciples was "when will all this take place and what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age. Regarding these things, Jesus said they would take place during that generation that would be existing when all of these signs begin to take place, i.e. that they would be restricted to that last generation.
If we were to assign the event of the 1st seal in this manner, then we could do it with the 2nd seal red horse who takes peace from the earth so that men kill one another. We could assign this to any wars that have taken place and specifically, the past world wars. And we could also do the same thing with 3rd seal black horse of famine. This then begins to take us down the historicist interpretation.
Regarding these events, Jesus said that "it would be a time of great tribulation such as the world has not seen, from the beginning, until now and never to be equaled again," which tells me that these will be unprecedented events, not like those of the past. Claiming that the white horse as false Christ and false prophets representing the last 2000 years, would then put the church as being in the wrath of God, for Jesus is the One opening the seals and is therefore is responsible for their results. The mention of death and Hades being given power to kill a fourth of the earth would be in a short period of time, not over 2000 years.
I believe that the church must be gathered prior to that first seal white horse being opened, which specifically represents the revealing of the antichrist and initiates God's wrath during that last seven years.
Also, the question by the disciples was "when will all this take place and what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age. Regarding these things, Jesus said they would take place during that generation that would be existing when all of these signs begin to take place, i.e. that they would be restricted to that last generation.
If we were to assign the event of the 1st seal in this manner, then we could do it with the 2nd seal red horse who takes peace from the earth so that men kill one another. We could assign this to any wars that have taken place and specifically, the past world wars. And we could also do the same thing with 3rd seal black horse of famine. This then begins to take us down the historicist interpretation.
Regarding these events, Jesus said that "it would be a time of great tribulation such as the world has not seen, from the beginning, until now and never to be equaled again," which tells me that these will be unprecedented events, not like those of the past. Claiming that the white horse as false Christ and false prophets representing the last 2000 years, would then put the church as being in the wrath of God, for Jesus is the One opening the seals and is therefore is responsible for their results. The mention of death and Hades being given power to kill a fourth of the earth would be in a short period of time, not over 2000 years.
I believe that the church must be gathered prior to that first seal white horse being opened, which specifically represents the revealing of the antichrist and initiates God's wrath during that last seven years.
Yes I know "everyone agrees this is not Christ.
However, in my frustration of not making sense out of revelation (the way it is being taught) I decided to start fresh with no preconceived ideas and put everything on the table and do the research.
I took every action word in chapter six and did word searches, found every place it was used in the bible and considered what God thought the word meant and how he used it in a sentence.
As I began to do this I started to see a completely different picture emerge.
The seals are promises, that's what the word seal means.
The seventh seal is God Promise of future judgment.
The sixth seal is a reminder of a promise he made the last time he destroyed the earth.
the fifth seal is God's promise to avenge the blood of the saints.
The second seal is God's promise that sin would bring judgment and death.
The third seal is God's promise of Judgement, the black horseman is God the father. (Hosea 12:7)
The forth seal is identified, death and hell follows behind.
The first seal is the promise of the Messiah, made all the way back in the garden!
So there you go, have a good laugh and then go back and take another look.
However, in my frustration of not making sense out of revelation (the way it is being taught) I decided to start fresh with no preconceived ideas and put everything on the table and do the research.
I took every action word in chapter six and did word searches, found every place it was used in the bible and considered what God thought the word meant and how he used it in a sentence.
As I began to do this I started to see a completely different picture emerge.
The seals are promises, that's what the word seal means.
The seventh seal is God Promise of future judgment.
The sixth seal is a reminder of a promise he made the last time he destroyed the earth.
the fifth seal is God's promise to avenge the blood of the saints.
The second seal is God's promise that sin would bring judgment and death.
The third seal is God's promise of Judgement, the black horseman is God the father. (Hosea 12:7)
The forth seal is identified, death and hell follows behind.
The first seal is the promise of the Messiah, made all the way back in the garden!
So there you go, have a good laugh and then go back and take another look.
yeah LOL
7 A merchant! In his hand are scales of deceit, he loved to oppress."
no the black horseman is not "God the Father"
scales of deceit are not in His hand and He does not love to oppress...
Psalms 145:16-17,16 Opening Your hand and satisfying The desire of all that live."17 יהוה is righteous in all His ways, And lovingly-committed in all His works."
Proverbs 14:31, He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, But he who esteems Him shows favour to the needy."
7 A merchant! In his hand are scales of deceit, he loved to oppress."
no the black horseman is not "God the Father"
scales of deceit are not in His hand and He does not love to oppress...
Psalms 145:16-17,16 Opening Your hand and satisfying The desire of all that live."17 יהוה is righteous in all His ways, And lovingly-committed in all His works."
Proverbs 14:31, He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, But he who esteems Him shows favour to the needy."
It is my belief that the anti-christ will come and claim to be the promised Messiah and he will deceive many many people.. This will be the basis of the great deception spoken of in prophecy.. So he will go out and conquer many and people will follow him because of his victories but the true elect will not be deceived and will reject him and for this they will be persecuted and beheaded.. I believe many of the anti-christs followers will believe they are doing God service by killing us..
