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John146

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The "whosoever" are not the reprobate, because totally depraved sinners will never come to believe. Only those who God draws to Himself will ever believe, the rest will never believe so it brings us back to predestination and election. Thank you
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. The "all" here only points to those who have been elected by God to be saved. The rest of the world are not sinners.;) Tongue in cheek...
 

Slayer

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For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. The "all" here only points to those who have been elected by God to be saved. The rest of the world are not sinners.;) Tongue in cheek...
For ALL have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. But God chose to save some, who are known as the elect of God.
 

Slayer

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I think what's throwing off everyone is the o.p. of joining a church. Is there a membership? Dues? Secret hand shake?
I never joined a church persay...I fellowship where I'm led.
I've been in Baptist, Methodist, Calvary chaple, it's all about the saints and the Lord's leading for me.
Rouge Christians are easy prey for the hungry lion who is roaming around seeking whom he may devour. As a sheep you need to find a shepherd to lead you, or you are a lost sheep and easy pickings for the wolf.
God has appointed shepherds to lead His sheep, He knows that us sheep are not very wise and we will fall prey to our adversary. So you should seek out a shepherd as a matter of utmost urgency.
 

Noblemen

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Youngman you have a long road a head of you
 
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Restoration church but Jesus says his own church shall prevail against the gates of hell. Matthew 16:18 means it continues from the time of the Lord Jesus Christ, the founder and from the time of the Apostles until now. The church doesnt even originated during the reformation. It goes back to the first century.

God bless
Yes back to the first century reformantion. The fifteenth century is a carbon copy of the first, again being reformed by the reforming key that the gates of hell could never prevail against (all things written in the law and the prophets) as it is written (sola scriptura)

Its seems to be one of those things many people do not learn about history is that people do not change. at the beginning of every reformation the morals of men have all but been died in respect to the word of God. The reforming authority of God

It was the time of Jacobs trouble as the way opened up to the gentile and Jew alike . losing what they thought as a outward Jew some sort of advantage as if God was a respecter of persons denying Christ has come in the flesh, as antichrists.

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them "until the time of reformation". But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Hebrews 9:8-11
 
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Well that's exactly why God appointed shepherds to lead us dumb sheep, there's no way any sheep can learn how to defend itself on it's own. We need to be taught how to defend ourselves by those who God appointed to teach us.
I would offer we should beware of the wiles of the devil, the father of lies, the spirt of the antichrist (singular) ,Satan.

How could those who have the power of God working in them to both will and do His good pleasure as a imputed righteousness as that not of them...………….. "be alone"? Do we need a Pope or what the scriptures call a daysman to teach us as if God was a man as us??

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Again, do we need man as that seen (defined as antichrists) to teach us or do we abide in the promised Holy anointing Spirit of Christ as he teaches guides and comforts us?

Note.... (purple in parenthesis) by offered added comants

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (singular, the spirit of lies) shall come, even now are there many antichrists; (deceived, seduced men) whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John2:18

These things have I written unto you concerning them (antichrists) that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.1 John2:26-27

I as a atheist was saved by the hearing of faith, hearing the gospel of my salvation in a Plymouth brethren sect or denomination. A great place for hearing the gospel. Honoring God in the breaking of bread, drinking the blood of grape ceremony and headship ceremony as visible representatives of the unseen glory of God and his bride the church . The new testament ceremonial laws as show of that to come

I am not apposed to denominations. No such thing as non denominational. Sects are a creation of God, seeing the kingdom of God is not of this world . God who is typified as Abraham is the father of a multitude of nations (denominations)

Where two or three are gathered together in his name, ( the athority of His word).... he is there working in them, or if two or three thousand gather together in his name he is there in the same way..... working in them .
 
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pottersclay

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Rouge Christians are easy prey for the hungry lion who is roaming around seeking whom he may devour. As a sheep you need to find a shepherd to lead you, or you are a lost sheep and easy pickings for the wolf.
God has appointed shepherds to lead His sheep, He knows that us sheep are not very wise and we will fall prey to our adversary. So you should seek out a shepherd as a matter of utmost urgency.
Well thank you for the advice. My pastor does not lead me now he watches over the flock and tends to it's needs but he doesn't lead them.
Jesus told Peter to feed not lead. If your pastor says he's leading...get out....don't trust in the arm of the flesh.
Jesus is my good shepherd. And he LEDs me to green pastures.
Thank you for your concern I really do appreciate you taking the time to share.
 
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pottersclay

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Rouge Christians are easy prey for the hungry lion who is roaming around seeking whom he may devour. As a sheep you need to find a shepherd to lead you, or you are a lost sheep and easy pickings for the wolf.
God has appointed shepherds to lead His sheep, He knows that us sheep are not very wise and we will fall prey to our adversary. So you should seek out a shepherd as a matter of utmost urgency.

Rouge Christian?? Now I know how to address John in revelation. Or the brothers and sisters in prison.
Jesus said he would never forsake or leave us.
I think Paul visited a few different fellowships in his day hope he found one to his liking.
 
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UnderGrace

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These are NOT "doctrines of grace" at all, but quite the opposite.

God's grace offers eternal life to whosoever believes on Christ, but that is rejected by TULIP, and the Gospel is distorted.
So true, so true and Amen!!
 
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UnderGrace

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Rouge Christians are easy prey for the hungry lion who is roaming around seeking whom he may devour. As a sheep you need to find a shepherd to lead you, or you are a lost sheep and easy pickings for the wolf.
God has appointed shepherds to lead His sheep, He knows that us sheep are not very wise and we will fall prey to our adversary. So you should seek out a shepherd as a matter of utmost urgency.
So you know "rouge" is red in French....

So then are you referring to Communists...hehehe

I am thinking you meant "rogue" just trying to be helpful, but I still do not agree with you:)
 
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UnderGrace

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Considering some of things you have written on other threads, and reviewing the website, I am seriously considering you have just playing some kind of game of hyperbole, satire or something.:unsure:

It does not fit together.
Perhaps that is that motive you speak of is why they chose the name they did here so as to carry it out?
 
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Restoration church but Jesus says his own church shall prevail against the gates of hell. Matthew 16:18 means it continues from the time of the Lord Jesus Christ, the founder and from the time of the Apostles until now. The church doesnt even originated during the reformation. It goes back to the first century.

God bless
I was looking for something that would tell us more about the Reformed Baptist church. This may be helpful.

Excerpting the part to post below. The full article is linked here, what is the Reformed Baptist church?

The formal cause of the Reformation was the question of authority. What is the ultimate authority for the Christian in matters of faith and practice? For Rome, the answer is both Scripture and tradition. However, since, according to its dogma, the Roman Catholic Church is the source of both Scripture and tradition, as well as the infallible interpreter of both, the matter of authority essentially boils down to the Catholic Church alone. The Reformers believed that the Scriptures alone were the sole infallible rule for Christian faith and practice; hence the Bible is the ultimate authority in these matters. All other lesser authorities—church councils, synods, and church declarations—are only authoritative insofar as they conform to Scripture.

Inasmuch as Baptists are Protestant, they are Reformed in this general sense. However, there is a more specific sense of the word Reformed, and this is more germane to our discussion. Reformed in the more narrow sense refers to those groups that follow in the theological footsteps of John Calvin—in particular his doctrine of salvation. This is what separates the General Baptists from the Particular Baptists. The General Baptists are so called because they hold to a belief of general atonement—Jesus died to make all men, in a universal sense, savable. Particular Baptists hold to the Calvinistic understanding that Jesus died only for the elect, and He died to actually secure their salvation, i.e., particular atonement. Reformed Baptists flow out of this Particular Baptist stream.

Today there is no official Reformed Baptist denomination, but there are several federations of Reformed Baptist churches, such as the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches in America (ARBCA). Most Reformed Baptist churches subscribe to the London Baptist Confession of Faith (1689) as their doctrinal standards; the 1689 LBCF is essentially the Westminster Confession of Faith reworded as it pertains to baptism. Some notable Reformed Baptists in history are John Bunyan, William Carey, and Charles Spurgeon.
 

Slayer

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I would offer we should beware of the wiles of the devil, the father of lies, the spirt of the antichrist (singular) ,Satan.

How could those who have the power of God working in them to both will and do His good pleasure as a imputed righteousness as that not of them...………….. "be alone"? Do we need a Pope or what the scriptures call a daysman to teach us as if God was a man as us??

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Again, do we need man as that seen (defined as antichrists) to teach us or do we abide in the promised Holy anointing Spirit of Christ as he teaches guides and comforts us?

Note.... (purple in parenthesis) by offered added comants

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (singular, the spirit of lies) shall come, even now are there many antichrists; (deceived, seduced men) whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John2:18

These things have I written unto you concerning them (antichrists) that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.1 John2:26-27

I as a atheist was saved by the hearing of faith, hearing the gospel of my salvation in a Plymouth brethren sect or denomination. A great place for hearing the gospel. Honoring God in the breaking of bread, drinking the blood of grape ceremony and headship ceremony as visible representatives of the unseen glory of God and his bride the church . The new testament ceremonial laws as show of that to come

I am not apposed to denominations. No such thing as non denominational. Sects are a creation of God, seeing the kingdom of God is not of this world . God who is typified as Abraham is the father of a multitude of nations (denominations)

Where two or three are gathered together in his name, ( the athority of His word).... he is there working in them, or if two or three thousand gather together in his name he is there in the same way..... working in them .
The greatest danger Christians face is when the Satan whispers in their ear and tells them they can leave the safety of the flock and go into the world as a rouge Christian. Then He can deceive them and lead them to destruction, God appointed shepherds to watch over you and you rebel against Gods Church and go out on your own.

The scriptures should not be interpreted privately, God has written them in such a way that only those who He appointed to shepherd His Church will understand them correctly. If you gave the Bible to 10 different people who never read it before, you would get 10 different interpretations. This is why there's so much confusion in Christendom, everyone considers themselves to be shepherds. There are to many self appointed deceived shepherds and not enough sheep.

God ordained His Church and appointed leaders and people like you come along and rebel against Gods Church at your peril. Satan loves nothing more than dealing with rouge Christians, he devours them 100% of the time.
 
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UnderGrace

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The greatest danger Christians face is when the Satan whispers in their ear and tells them they can leave the safety of the flock and go into the world as a rouge Christian. Then He can deceive them and lead them to destruction, God appointed shepherds to watch over you and you rebel against Gods Church and go out on your own.

The scriptures should not be interpreted privately, God has written them in such a way that only those who He appointed to shepherd His Church will understand them correctly. If you gave the Bible to 10 different people who never read it before, you would get 10 different interpretations. This is why there's so much confusion in Christendom, everyone considers themselves to be shepherds. There are to many self appointed deceived shepherds and not enough sheep.

God ordained His Church and appointed leaders and people like you come along and rebel against Gods Church at your peril. Satan loves nothing more than dealing with rouge Christians, he devours them 100% of the time.
What is a rouge Christian, in case you missed it "rouge" is red in French.

Are we talking about Communist Christians then? :D
 

Slayer

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What is a rouge Christian, in case you missed it "rouge" is red in French.

Are we talking about Communist Christians then? :D
Rouge, is someone who rebels against their God ordained leader and turns on the hand that feeds them. Lucifer was the first rouge Angel, He influenced a third of the Angels in heaven to join Him.

Christians are doing exactly the same thing when they leave the Church where God planted them, so their fate is the same as Lucifer's. It all comes back to a rebellion, we are seeing large numbers rebelling and leaving the Church in our days. It is just as Christ predicted when He said in the later days many would fall away and we are seeing it like never before so we know He will return to judge the world soon.

Everyone will see a different Jesus this time around, He will come as a ruthless killer taking vengeance on all those who haven't surrendered their will and their lives over to Him. He will cast them into the lake of fire with no mercy at all, most so called Christians will be shocked when He throws them into the lake of fire.

Luke warm Christians must be warned to become radical, or they will also be cast into the fire. The easiest way to test if you are a true Christian is by the amount of persecution you endure, if you are not persecuted than you are not a Christian.
 
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UnderGrace

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Rouge, is someone who rebels against their God ordained leader and turns on the hand that feeds them. Lucifer was the first rouge Angel, He influenced a third of the Angels in heaven to join Him.

Christians are doing exactly the same thing when they leave the Church where God planted them, so their fate is the same as Lucifer's. It all comes back to a rebellion, we are seeing large numbers rebelling and leaving the Church in our days. It is just as Christ predicted when He said in the later days many would fall away and we are seeing it like never before so we know He will return to judge the world soon.

Everyone will see a different Jesus this time around, He will come as a ruthless killer taking vengeance on all those who haven't surrendered their will and their lives over to Him. He will cast them into the lake of fire with no mercy at all, most so called Christians will be shocked when He throws them into the lake of fire.

Luke warm Christians must be warned to become radical, or they will also be cast into the fire. The easiest way to test if you are a true Christian is by the amount of persecution you endure, if you are not persecuted than you are not a Christian.
Well I think you mean "rogue" just trying to be helpful. :)
 

Laish

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I believe she is talking about the spelling in your posts note the differences in the two words . They mean something very different.
Rogue
noun
  1. 1.
    a dishonest or unprincipled man.
    "you are a rogue and an embezzler"
    synonyms:scoundrel, villain, miscreant, reprobate, rascal, good-for-nothing, ne'er-do-well, wretch; More


    Rouge
noun
  1. 1.
    a red powder or cream used as a cosmetic for coloring the cheeks or lips.
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